FacelessVixen

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[...] It doesn't really scream "good design" to play another song and dance every single time for in-game sex after abolishing the consent simulator.

I mean, asking for consent for each and every single little thing wasn't really an issue either because it was just resolved in 2 clicks. But yet the devs recognized it as an issue and remade the system to fix it. [...]
Which isn't even the reason why I coined the phrase to begin with; granted that other games have my attention right now, so I can't say first hand that Faux Consent Simulator/Bootleg Consent Simulator/We Have Consent Simulator At Home is now "fixed" when it was never broken to begin with.

...I hate , by the way.
 
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harem.king

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Alright. so you meant the other sex toy.

this one is a bit faster. still slow. and just completely ignores the system.
so you stand in the room and wait for a minute or two before starting the scene with her. And that lets you completely skip the scene.

Still not seeing how this is a good implementation, much less an improvement compared to last week's version.
 

salscou

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Alright. so you meant the other sex toy.
I clearly said vibrator, i said vibrator several times, a vibrator and a dildo are different things.
this one is a bit faster. still slow. and just completely ignores the system.
so you stand in the room and wait for a minute or two before starting the scene with her. And that lets you completely skip the scene.
Put it in her and pass a period, there.

My man, youre complaining about absolute nothing, you do not understand the game mechanics and are getting mad about the fact that theres a completely skippable thing with the current mechanics that you personally dont enjoy.
 

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Skill issue of the highest degree :ROFLMAO:
This is not the brilliant comeback you think it is.
It just goes to show how much of a failure this new grind system is.

You are countering arguing against "grind is bad, adding grind made sex less fun"
with the idea that someone skilled would have used one highly specific sex method that might not be their fetish in order to reduce (but not eliminate) grind.

It assigns differing numerical values to different forms of foreplay. And forces you to use the "optimal" foreplay methods to minimize the grind.
How is this fun? how is this an improvement?
Why force people into using a specific form of foreplay?
Why are the inferior methods so bad that they require literally several minutes to progress to the next step?
 

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Been out all day. Sad to see y'all arguing when I'm not paying attention.

Cracks knuckles

Time to get to work.

We are not talking about speedrunning games here.
Speak for yourself. Dating sims, especially if they involve RNG, are high on the list of speedrunning.

My time for RLE is 2 minutes.

There is no additional development time as instead of typing "John" in the code you just type in MC_Name.
Null's real name is irrelevant for story reasons Mad would ACTUALLY murder me if I revealed. Like I'm not even joking. It's quintessential to the existence of this game that Null's real name is customizable.

I will say the current system is rather rudimentary, but it's logically so low on the priority list that I don't really expect much more than we have at present. Would be nice to have pre-1.0, but I still understand that priorities lie elsewhere.
Yeah we don't really have incentive to expand character customization until we get CGs from of Null from a secondary perspective.

Which are in the works but they're expensive and not high on the todo list until 1.0D or something.

I just name every MC of every game Protag Onist and get on with the story.
Back before RPGs had voice overs, and heck games like Legend of Zelda, I'd name my main characters "My Dude."

the goody-two-shoes who slowly turns into the jaded anti-hero, so on and so forth
This is actually something we're taking into account for and if you accumulate enough "good" points and choose a bitter/anti-hero option people will notice.

My only minor complaint is the backstory being limited to one of three scholarships
Further customization on those scholarships will be put throughout the game. Currently you can tell Rogue if it was a musical art scholarship and that gives you notable points with her.

Does anyone know where to find the vibe controls now?
It's in the phone and you have a quick option to it now as well.

Slow down people. No timeframe on when or if we'll be using this. It's there so we don't have to restructure the game in case we do. In the meantime modders are free to have at it.

step in wrong direction.
Now each time you have sex you are forced into doing ridiculous amount of foreplay before you can start having actual sex.
with things unlocking as the scene progresses.
I'll never understand people who just want to pump and dump.

I've always been under the impression that actually pleasuring a woman properly was bragworthy.

Though I know the normal boastfulness stems from just getting laid to begin with which... like yeah congrats on making a girl falsely think you were good at sex to give you the chance. :cautious:

I disagree, in games like these, once you fully max out a girl, normally you never use the non-penetration related actions because they already agree to getting a quick fuck, so having to get them turned on to begin with its some extra motivation to go back to the basics.
Besides, if you cant be bothered, you can just turn on their vibrators beforehand.
Going in dry isn't fun

ike the smug look on Laura. I get the feeling that when she gets passed the possessive part of herself and lets another girl fuck her man she would DEMAND Null to go all out like it was a training session, make him turn the other girl to mush then look her and in the eyes and mental say "yeah, you can't handle all that cock, but I can".
I can't confirm if this is a canon interpretation but I can say it is a valid one. ;)


Finally had time to make it, let's see if I get a bingo xD

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I'm sad to say that Pixie and Nega Sonic are unlikely to make it as options in this game. Mostly because of the characters you have put, those two weren't created until after our planned stopping points in the comic and unlike X-23, we don't have art of them.

Not saying they CAN'T happen. Chapter 6's open-endedness allows for all kind of addons.

Callisto, Magma, and Rachel Summers are on the list of potential inclusion though. :sneaky:

We are still waiting for it.
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I'm gonna show this to the team.

Nothing would make me happier than to model my player character after Johnny Bravo "Hey there mutant momma!".
Someone mod in the "Mama's Boy" Scholarship and have it all just be Johnny Bravo quotes. :LOL:

Meanwhile Jean is like "Bruh what have I done..."
I mean that's her general attitude about her life choices up until Krakoa where she stops giving a fuck.

You don't spend 5 minutes grinding on a girl to unlock 5 seconds of penetrative sex (because that all you have stamina for after the 5 minutes of grinding)
Take into account Null's sexual inexperience. :unsure:

Null's virginity status is left up to the player but he's still freshly 18.

I don't personally dislike it atm but it's probably gonna get very old by the time 1.0 rolls up. It doesn't really scream "good design" to play another song and dance every single time for in-game sex after abolishing the consent simulator.
Which is why we have plenty of time to tweak variables and "fix" things considered egregious. :WeSmart:

I mean, asking for consent for each and every single little thing wasn't really an issue either because it was just resolved in 2 clicks. But yet the devs recognized it as an issue and remade the system to fix it.
Constantly getting hurtful messages despite us promising it was on the todo list didn't really make us enthusiastic about getting it done though. :cautious:

This may simply not be the one for you - but you're in luck since there's THREE of these sorts of games out and about now, including this one lmao
Four if you want to play the one where Xavier gets mind controlled into raping/coercing the female members of the X-Men.

It proudly displays X-23 in a pillory which people have tinfoiled is a response to our game.

several years old.
It's been like two at most... You can't count the leaked mod of RLE or the preview build we put out.

This is not the brilliant comeback you think it is.
It actually is. We've built the mechanics around skill. We've been falsely accused of having heavy petting not being able to get a girl off and several people have responded with that they had gotten A+ ratings with above the clothes only.

Every girl will like something to a different degree.

To those that hate the anal and deepthroat training, yes this does mean that some girls won't require that but I'm not sure you'll be happy about the how. :sneaky:

what are you even on about, optimal foreplay techniques? Just touch the lady, It's not rocket science!
There are dudes who will fistfight you over insisting that the G-spot exists. It most certainly is rocket science to some guys.

Wait hold on here, that seems interesting.
We need to optimize foreplay, i need elite pussywetting strats to min-max my naked-to-cum per click timers, it is vital for the speedrunning community.
Open up the hood of the game and have at it my dude. :p
 

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Speak for yourself. Dating sims, especially if they involve RNG, are high on the list of speedrunning.

My time for RLE is 2 minutes.
I did manage to do the Rogue day 1 fuck and the Emma first encounter boobs out, min-maxing RLE its actually pretty damn fun.
Sadly the strat to get the day 1 doesnt work because now you need to unlock the mall to get the magazines and you dont unlock the mall until you meet Jubes.
 
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RonChon:hey friends, I just sent out a poll to Patrons with voting privileges, but want to share the same news with y'all

Hey hey! I've finished the Ch. 1 finale event! In the process I learned a bunch of new techniques that can be applied to cinematic events that I'm excited to use when remastering the old cinematics. My question for y'all is. . . should I finish remastering the rest of the cinematics (Juggernaut, Sentinel, Mutant Hate) for 0.7a, or should I release as soon as the finale event and dirty talking system are polished and ready? If you want the rest of the cinematics remastered for 0.7a, I'll need to slow down a bit to avoid burn out, but I estimate that I could finish them in under two weeks. It might be faster than that but I'd rather underpromise.
 

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I did manage to do the Rogue day 1 fuck and the Emma first encounter boobs out, min-maxing RLE its actually pretty damn fun.
My man!

Sadly the strat to get the day 1 doesnt work because now you need to unlock the mall to get the magazines and you dont unlock the mall until you meet Jubes.
This is worse than when Lightning Spear was nerfed.
 
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This is worse than when Lightning Spear was nerfed.
Funnily enough, you can still bang Kitty in the first day you meet her but you require a lot of RNG so she doesnt elbow strike you when you manhandle her and you have to find her schlicking in the showers.
 

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My man!


This is worse than when Lightning Spear was nerfed.
Ah fellow Tarnished Elden Lord I see.

Taking everything into account, more like community wrangler. :LOL:
I think its pretty admirable that they have someone dedicated to posting here. Not a lot of dev teams do this.
I know I would have lost my sanity a long time ago if I were in his shoes.
 

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Awesome, glad to know it's something that is being considered - I'm perfectly fine waiting in that case!
Also glad to know my initial assessment of the new system was more or less on point lol. Sorry that any of the rest of that conversation transpired


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RonChon:hey friends, I just sent out a poll to Patrons with voting privileges, but want to share the same news with y'all ....
Oooo, that's a real tempting consideration. A part of me wants to think that it's better to tackle it now while it's fresh in his memory, but at the same time I also feel like focus on the core of the update makes more sense to prioritize. Either way, looking forward to seeing what these new discoveries result in!
 

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This is worse than when Lightning Spear was nerfed.
I loved doing a lighting spear chucker build in DS1, going full Zeus on demons was so much fun.

I swear to god, every new game Fromsoft just hammers in the "No Fun Allowed" sign deeper and deeper; Any mechanic or power that people enjoy they go out of their way to cripple.
I have never not finished a game but Elden Ring tested my patience more than some of the worst JRPGs (looking at you Star Ocean); the gall of those fuckers to claim the game doesn't have input reading when there were hundred of videos of the Rune Bear pulling off shit a psychic owl would struggle with, not to mention enemies having infinite stamina.

By the time I got to the swamp in front of the academy I wasn't having fun anymore and was just hoping it would be over ASAP.
 
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