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Also Nightcrawler's parentage is something that will need to be heavily debated by the dev team eventually.

Do we go by Claremont's intentions? Do we stick to what was originally published? The retcon?
The Retcon at this point is retro-activly retarded since it makes all the other times Mistique's DNA has been a plot point completely void if she can just rearrenge it at will, not only that but the way they went at it was so handfisted it just made people angry.
Iceman being gay or not is a common one.
I fail to see how this is something that needs to be discussed though, Mistique i can get why, but Bobby's?
Dude was constantly chasing after skirt since issue 1 of the X-men, even in the movies hes a flirty prettyboy with Rogue.
 

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I fail to see how this is something that needs to be discussed though, Mistique i can get why, but Bobby's?
Dude was constantly chasing after skirt since issue 1 of the X-men, even in the movies hes a flirty prettyboy with Rogue.
Because that would leave Northstar as the only gay X-man of the period.
 

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Pretty sure Anole existed and was out before Bobby got Bendis'd. He did say "of the period", though, which...I'm not sure why that matters.
 

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Secondly, the next writer would probably turn your well thought out, multidimensional character who happens to be gay into a gay character who's only thing is being gay.
Still better than turning well thought out, multidimensional straight character into a gay character who's only thing is being gay.
I still hate Tim Drake coming out as gay bi and destroying his couple with Spoiler just because so. I hate that even more than situation with Jon Kent
 
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Why does any X-men character need to be gay in any given period?
The franchise’s overarching theme of being hated and feared for who and what you are naturally lends itself to many marginalized experiences, from the original civil rights allegory and later including those of the LGBTQ+ community. Over time, both readers and creators have embraced and deepened these parallels, making the X-Men a lasting symbol of the fight against all forms of discrimination.

...Which makes it really weird when they're all straight, on top of the heavy lean for most of the franchise's existence on a white cast punctuated by fantastical blue and green people to the near-exclusion of people of color who were often overshadowed or short lived when they did appear. This has improved, with more and more iconic characters being PoC or LGBTQ+, whether they were originally written that way or adapted into it.

Basically, if diversity and acceptance in the face of discrimination is a theme, maybe there should be some in the cast beyond how unique their superpowers are.
 
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By the way, I don't know if it's been caught before but I noticed an art discrepancy in the season 1 finale: Cyclops's outfit doesn't appear to include yellow trunks in his first panel but does in the second.
 
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they should have just made a new character and see if it sticks
They've tried that. It always fails.

I'm not sure why that matters.
Female Null is something we want in the future. Bi/gay Null is something I know I wouldn't mind to have in the future.

By the way, I don't know if it's been caught before but I noticed an art discrepancy in the season 1 finale: Cyclops's outfit doesn't appear to include yellow trunks in his first panel but does in the second.
I'll pass it onto the dev team.
 
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It depends on the season. Shame is either 0.25 * (love + trust) or 0.4 (love + trust) (depending on which shame). Love and trust are capped [...]
Does anyone knows which files is making this calculation ? I want to increase considerably the numbers so i can make early game the wardrobe, and be done with it for the whole game .

I checked on the /scripts/base/clothing.rpy file and the game/scripts/clothing folder, and didn't find the trust/love value.
 

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I mean, I could just go with that between Wobbuffet being a psychic type and the collective 'Null becoming a teacher or a therapist' headcanon that you guys came up with. But I don't think it's that simple.

Team Rocket's Wobbuffet doesn't strike me as being the sharpest tool in the shed, and therapists/psychologists aren't the big-brain genius know-it-alls that they think they are*. Null and Wobb are at their best when they're taking hits and getting knocked out, which in my mind implies physical contact, which to me says that they're more on the athletic side of a aisle. I also want to factor in/intentionally wrongfully interpret people failing to form the harem to Null's lack of emotional inelegance, but I don't have the right words for it at the moment.

The reason why I asked is that I plan on starting a new run by naming Null 'Wob Buffet' and give him blue arms and a blue pecker.

*And no, I'm not necessarily referring to you, Boots. I dated a psych major in college, and she was the most ditzy and naïve person that I've ever met. She also introduced me to Ikkitousen, if that indicates anything.

I guess. Though come to think of it, Null gaining new powers is similar to how Smeargle learns new moves via Sketch.
I'm sticking with academic, because every time he gets his ass kicked, he learns something new. At heart, he's clearly very academic.
 
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Also Nightcrawler's parentage is something that will need to be heavily debated by the dev team eventually.

Do we go by Claremont's intentions? Do we stick to what was originally published? The retcon?
Honestly, I think the most recent iteration that kinda middle-grounds Claremont's intent and the Azazel concept works well enough. There's at least more precedent for it compared to some retroactive sexuality changes (which I don't personally take issue with, but that's an off-topic matter). I think the only part of it I take issue with is the "why", but that's more a gripe with how writers use Destiny herself at the end of the day.

Just tossing an idea out for consideration:
In an effort to subvert the melodrama surrounding the canon retcon singularity, have Azazel just be some guy they happened to know/have met & thought was hot, and a night of shapeshifting roleplay went a little too right. Keeps the basics of the incident without the weirdness of the prophecies as an excuse. Just people being people. Also avoids any concerns of infidelity with regard to the characters - not that Mystique being in a closed relationship has really ever been a thing, lest we forget the much more concerning Foxx incident...... Which would be fucked up to be the target of in-game, though a little funny when considering how so many players seem to run into cheating issues as is :KEK: In a cosmic sense, of course.
Not expecting this idea to stick, of course. Y'all take whatever direction you think best fits the intended narrative - plus, there's some time before that'll even become relevant in-game, I'd wager. Tossing out pennies, etc.
 
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Does anyone knows which files is making this calculation ? I want to increase considerably the numbers so i can make early game the wardrobe, and be done with it for the whole game .

I checked on the /scripts/base/clothing.rpy file and the game/scripts/clothing folder, and didn't find the trust/love value.
The code has changed since I've posted that.

./base/clothing.rpy:31
Code:
define public_shame_multiplier = 4.0
define exercise_shame_multiplier = 2.5
define private_shame_multiplier = 0.4
./base/clothing.rpy:509 (one of many)
Code:
                        if flag in ["public", "date"]:
                            if approval_check(self.Owner, threshold = public_shame_multiplier*hypothetical_Outfit.shame):
                                proceed = True
                        elif flag in ["exercise", "swim"]:
                            if approval_check(self.Owner, threshold = exercise_shame_multiplier*hypothetical_Outfit.shame):
                                proceed = True
                        elif approval_check(self.Owner, threshold = private_shame_multiplier*hypothetical_Outfit.shame):
                            proceed = True
./mechanics/approval.rpy:15
Code:
    def approval_check(Character, flavor = None, threshold = None, extra_condition = None, multiplier = 1.0, not_found_value = (0, 0)):
        if not isinstance(Character, CompanionClass):
            return 0

        if flavor is None:
            value = Character.love + Character.trust
./mechanics/approval.rpy:51
Code:
        elif isinstance(threshold, float) or isinstance(threshold, int):
            if value + 0.0*abs(renpy.random.gauss(0, stat_sigma)) < multiplier*threshold:
                return False
So:
if
love + trust + (0.0 * abs(renpy.random.gauss(0, stat_sigma)))
(don't know why that last part is there. 0.0 times anything is still zero. Programming language math still follow PEMDAS. ShinyBoots1993 , might want to point that out to ronchonbon . It won't affect anything unless renpy's random number generator is costly, which sometimes is the case, but it's better to not have these calculations if possible.)

is less than

shame_type_multiplier * outfit_shame

the outfit is rejected.

If you remember your inequality math, the equation is pretty much the same.
love + trust < multiplier * outfit_shame
If you divide both sides by the multiplier, you need to change the direction of the inequality.
(love + trust) / multiplier > outfit_shame
And 1/4 (1 / public shame multiplier) = 0.25 and 1/2.5 (1 / exercise shame multiplier) is the same as 4/10 which 0.4.


This has been your reminder to thank your high school math teacher.
 
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