Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[UnoriginalUserName]

At least as far as we know, he doesn't really have Castle or Nick Fury reasons to be "Bitter Null".

Monk playthrough with no pussy.

 

[Ruoken]

Would be cool to see how far it goes if you start off Determined than slowly through each chapter make your way to bitter. Or vice versa. Can’t wait for more story stuff.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

And besides we get more dialogues like these with bitter Null

I really do like that line.

Would be cool to see how far it goes if you start off Determined than slowly through each chapter make your way to bitter. Or vice versa. Can’t wait for more story stuff.

To the best of our ability we're going to make that actually be impactful. Characters are already reactive to your behavior but a change in consistency is some Telltale shit that gets are brain juices going.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Bitter Null is my fave version cause it makes sense he would feel that way , at least for me

And besides we get more dialogues like these with bitter Null

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I want more instances of Null feeling like an anti hero but always right on the edge of becoming one

Determined Null isn't bad either , trying to do the right thing even if it means putting themselves in danger and i think Rogue kinda vibes with that approach which is an added bonus

Yeah it's fun. I'm just looking for the thing in his origin story why he would strike so brutally. What has the world unfairly taken from him? Where was he tormented?

The intro of the game is a bread and butter Reluctant start. But Reluctant so far is kind of boring. And Determined can be shoehorned into every hero story.

Would be cool to see how far it goes if you start off Determined than slowly through each chapter make your way to bitter. Or vice versa. Can’t wait for more story stuff.

This I want to see.

It's easy to be Determined, a "paragon of justice" when the world doesn't test you or send you through the wringer. But when it does the normal thing would be to "balance the scales". Become Bitter. Staying true to morals in the face of it is the definition of Determined.

Turning into Bitter Null as the plot escalates sounds fun. But to start that way feels a little silly to me.

 

[Hazeti]

I really do like that line.


To the best of our ability we're going to make that actually be impactful. Characters are already reactive to your behavior but a change in consistency is some Telltale shit that gets are brain juices going.

I think it was already mentioned by you or someone else that there is also something akin to the unpredictable archetype where if Null keeps switching between the established archetypes that some characters would react to it , i want to see those interactions play out , it would be cool

Yeah it's fun. I'm just looking for the thing in his origin story why he would strike so brutally. What has the world unfairly taken from him? Where was he tormented?

The intro of the game is a bread and butter Reluctant start. But Reluctant so far is kind of boring. And Determined can be shoehorned into every hero story.

In my playthrough Null stays determined for the most part where he wants to see things through and do the right thing but in certain instances like the town i felt being bitter was appropriate for the scenario

In my head canon if Null sees unwarranted injustice against a fellow mutant by humans he will act in a bitter manner which may sometimes even involve violence against said humans if the writers present the scenario in such a way ofc

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I think it was already mentioned by you or someone else that there is also something akin to the unpredictable archetype where if Null keeps switching between the established archetypes that some characters would react to it , i want to see those interactions play out , it would be cool



In my playthrough Null stays determined for the most part where he wants to see things through and do the right thing but in certain instances like the town i felt being bitter was appropriate for the scenario

In my head canon if Null sees unwarranted injustice against a fellow mutant by humans he will act in a bitter manner which may sometimes even involve violence against said humans if the writers present the scenario in such a way ofc

Yeah that sounds perfect.

But yeah starting as Bitter Null makes very little sense. "I was attacked by my professor so now the world will know justice from the one with the power to make it so." If that's enough to do it then every superhero should be Punisher.

 

[figgotry]

Yeah that sounds perfect.

But yeah starting as Bitter Null makes very little sense. "I was attacked by my professor so now the world will know justice from the one with the power to make it so." If that's enough to do it then every superhero should be Punisher.

"Rogue didn't trust me enough to start a harem and so the world must suffer."

 

[Ruoken]

Yeah I just imagine what I would do if I was in that situation funnily enough I was going through college when I found this game so it was easy to get to put myself in. So I started determined still am but obviously chapter 1 is more of a prologue chapter and nothing that can cause such a change to happen has happened. So dealing with more and more escalating events and how you can turn bitter from it would be exciting to play through and how the other characters respond to it and if they try to steer Null in another direction to being reluctant or determined again if they can.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I think it was already mentioned by you or someone else that there is also something akin to the unpredictable archetype where if Null keeps switching between the established archetypes that some characters would react to it , i want to see those interactions play out , it would be cool

Multiple dev team members have commented but the current build has short-term responses to acting inconsistent. Long term wills how up as chapters progress.

Yeah that sounds perfect.

But yeah starting as Bitter Null makes very little sense. "I was attacked by my professor so now the world will know justice from the one with the power to make it so." If that's enough to do it then every superhero should be Punisher.

We'll be adding in more opportunities to define Null's backstory but by default Bitter Null is just that... Bitter. He's pissed off about being forced into a new school, stuck with powers he never asked for, and being treated like he isn't human anymore.

Though that's why the archetypes evolve.

Eager -> Heroic

Reluctant -> Determined

Bitter -> Anti-Hero.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

obviously chapter 1 is more of a prologue chapter

It's less obvious than you think. Most people need to be told that Chapter 1 is just establishing the setting.

 

[Ruoken]

It's less obvious than you think. Most people need to be told that Chapter 1 is just establishing the setting.

Yeah it’s very well put together was surprised how much there was to this game when I first played it. But I’m curious how much longer or bigger chapter 2 will be story wise. Like how much will be packed into a season.

 

[Kylar Stern]

I agree with this, make each one unique to the girl. If you want to involve the other girls make them be brides maids for each others weddings and whoever catches the bouquet is the next one to get married.

Laura: An Amazonian wedding where you have to beat her in unarmed combat after she hunts you through the woods in Canada while naked (make Logan proud).
Bonus points if Logan is the one who proposes the idea hoping Null won't make it at first but ends up cheering for him anyway.

Jean: Psychic reenactment of The Notebook where you live out lives together before getting married... or Doki Doki Literature Club where Jean is Monika and Phoenix is Crazy Monika where you have to escape the mind trap but still love her when you get out.
Bonus points if you escape by overloading Phoenix's brain with multiple orgasms.

Rogue: A southern romcom where you have to get approval from her family, Logan playing the dad role and Mystique the mom. The wedding has to be southern as fuck but at night with some gothic elements, needs at least one hoedown and the brides maids dressed as southern belles.
Bonus points if the anti mutants you fought show up with confederate flags but they are actually there to apologize and help decorate the wedding, must make AT LEAST one joke about Rogue making Nulls "south rise again". The anti mutants should also give Rogue picrel bikini as a wedding present.

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Kitty: Have to survive a bunch lawsuits and attacks from the Chemla and Yad L'Achim (and their US equivalents) since her jewish parents don't want her marrying a non jew. Have to win over Magneto who will point out that all children born to a jewish mother are considered jewish then officiates the wedding while threatening a battalion of jew lawyers.
Bonus points if Kurt is the priest that marries them.

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Storm: Beat up T'challa to prove your worth and have the wedding in Wakanda.
Bonus points if you do the african tradition where the village (all of Wakanda in this case) has to watch you impregnate her.

Emma: Make hers take place after Jean where she demands the same thing but far more ostentatious and expensive to one up Jean. The setup is that Phoenix gets kicked out of Jean through the power Nulls cock then mind jacks Emma and the Stepford Cuckoo's.
Bonus points if Emma demands you impregnate all her daughters before she agrees to get pregnant herself. Limit the Cuckoo's to three... for Nulls sake.
Double bonus points if the Cuckoo's dress as cheerleaders and cheer on Null as he impregnates Emma while his cum is still flowing down their wobbling legs.

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Dazzler: She gets depressed so Null takes her out in secret on the Jet to cheer her up and they get really drunk off enchanted wine in Las Vegas. They wake up later in the desert and have to retrace their steps to find the jet. Along the way they find out they had a wild night, destroyed a crime syndicate, launched a massive fireworks display, and recorded a gold record which they then broke over the head of a producer who tried to blackmail Daz in to sleeping with him. Null then takes pieces of the gold record and makes it in to a wedding ring and the two them get married by sneaking in to a hollywood studio and getting married on set then having sex in front of the film crew, which later gets made in to a movie.
The story ends with the two of them watching it in theaters and Daz complain about how they censored all the good bits to make it PG-13.
Bonus Points: this was all a setup by Loki for his personal entertainment in style of Sanguine from Skyrim. We also find out Loki is a fan of her music and follows her on social media.

Akabur.....is that you??

 

[zopeda]

I mean currently his power only works against mutants. He's defenseless against MKUltra.


Days of Future Past and stuff will preferably be adapted. Imagine 18-19 year old Kitty forgetting she ain't a Milf no more and lacks the mom curves lol


Yeah we're not gonna use Hollywood tropes. Everyone on the dev team agreed that we ain't gonna fetishize race or culture after the whole Queen of Hearts debacle.

what debacle?

 

[salscou]

"Rogue didn't trust me enough to start a harem and so the world must suffer."

"Rogue didnt let me fuck her in the first date, billions must die."

Yeah I just imagine what I would do if I was in that situation funnily enough I was going through college when I found this game so it was easy to get to put myself in. So I started determined still am but obviously chapter 1 is more of a prologue chapter and nothing that can cause such a change to happen has happened. So dealing with more and more escalating events and how you can turn bitter from it would be exciting to play through and how the other characters respond to it and if they try to steer Null in another direction to being reluctant or determined again if they can.

In my mind i really like heroic Null.
As soon as he got to Xavier's, he got treated really nicely by everyone (atleast in comparisson to college), and then he ran into these poor girls that have all these issues that make them really dangerous even though they are trying to be good, so he gets motivated to be a good influence for them because hes relativly normal in comparisson.

Besides, hes quite new so he wouldnt have time to develop that "Oh yeah, im a mutant, humans are the inferior species that strike us in envy" mindset some mutants develop over time.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

"Rogue didnt let me fuck her in the first date, billions must die."

The Null Hypothesis -> The Null Solution

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Besides, hes quite new so he wouldnt have time to develop that "Oh yeah, im a mutant, humans are the inferior species that strike us in envy" mindset some mutants develop over time.

This is where I disagree with Boots on. Until the Sentinels he never experiences a hint of human-mutant tension. Also he seems to adapt to the school and his powers without any sign of resentment for all of autumn until you get the choices to choose disposition around the Juggernaut fight. So at least until the end of winter if not spring Bitter Null makes very little sense. Of course, if you take Ch1 as a whole then I can see where his resentment comes from.

Early on the only player input I can think of for Null not taking his situation well is when first meeting Jean she asks how you are and you get the option to say "Not great but I'll survive."

Edit: Never mind the disposition choice is after doing the 3 classes quest I think. Not immediately pre-Juggernaught. Disregard that bit. Still, Sentinels makes the most sense for the first bitter choice.

 

[Darknes666]

I play null as the Captain Amerika Archtyp and use the bitter options after the sentinel atack and when the mob Atack becouse he dint have problems bevor and just after the sentinels kill he realises what the realety for a lot of Mutans is and will becom bitter in the situasions where he and other mutants are atackt becouse they are Mutants but will continue to use the Heroic choise in other situatios at lest if there are no situatios when it woud be resoneble for him to turn bitter

 

[salscou]

This is where I disagree with Boots on. Until the Sentinels he never experiences a hint of human-mutant tension. Also he seems to adapt to the school and his powers without any sign of resentment for all of autumn until you get the choices to choose disposition around the Juggernaut fight. So at least until the end of winter if not spring Bitter Null makes very little sense. Of course, if you take Ch1 as a whole then I can see where his resentment comes from.

Early on the only player input I can think of for Null not taking his situation well is when first meeting Jean she asks how you are and you get the option to say "Not great but I'll survive."

I play null as the Captain Amerika Archtyp and use the bitter options after the sentinel atack and when the mob Atack becouse he dint have problems bevor and just after the sentinels kill he realises what the realety for a lot of Mutans is and will becom bitter in the situasions where he and other mutants are atackt becouse they are Mutants but will continue to use the Heroic choise in other situatios at lest if there are no situatios when it woud be resoneble for him to turn bitter

Speaking of the Sentinels, we still have no clue whos sending the Sentinels in TNH, right?
Is it the Feds, Genosha, or some shadowy off-shoot of a black operation by Stryker?

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Speaking of the Sentinels, we still have no clue whos sending the Sentinels in TNH, right?
Is it the Feds, Genosha, or some shadowy off-shoot of a black operation by Stryker?
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I don't remember exactly but I think Xavier implies feds. At least, he thinks so.

 

[Billthehachetman]

Can we get the paper bag that spiderman wore that one time? could be an easter egg