Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8a] [Ron Chon]

[ShinyBoots1993]

So I recently just started this game and was pleasantly surprised by the quality and quantity of the content. Although, I got to ask, will this game only include the love and trust attribute? I just wanted to know if there are any future plans on implementing corruption or inhibition like in the OG game this game was inspired from. Just curious is all

Characters' inhibition lowers as their love and trust for you goes up.

We will not be doing corruption content... mostly. You're not gonna be mind breaking anyone or turning them into sexdolls but sexual awakenings tend to change people. It won't be a stat though. It's part of their character narrative.

Just a few observation I had after switching from 0.2a to 0.2b

Just gonna link this post to the dev team.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

And you edited the post.

what is sib dynamic? I tried googling it but nothing came up. Did you mean sibling dynamic? cause no one calls it sib :/

Guess is a regional thing? I hear sib all the time. It's just short for sibling.

Who tf is null? I have specifically changed my name since day 1 on 0.2a

Null is the character's superhero title.

Which he officially is supposed to get at the end of Chapter 1's finale. So that's a writing error on our part.

Though you should know that the MC has been referred to as Null consistently throughout this forum.

 

[shantysailor]

ShinyBoots1993
can you tell the dev team I love them (and you)?
Also, and sorry if this has been asked or is a topic you wish to avoid
Is the dev team looking for a specific goal on patreon to continue? Or is this more of a hobby? I must admit after reading the team's scope forever ago when you first started updating things and replying to users I was...skeptical to say the least. But regardless I'm very glad to see the massive progress you've made!

This is the first time I've thought about donating on patreon, and I look forward to your team's progress

 

[ＧＡＢ]

Though you should know that the MC has been referred to as Null consistently throughout this forum.

Fair, my mistake then, but could add the nickname in the phone player page tho

Guess is a regional thing? I hear sib all the time. It's just short for sibling.

yeah that's possible, but sib relationship is more common. sib dynamic just leads to "Service Integration Bus", a business thing. I suggest changing it to sibling dynamics

 

[Evil13]

Another example
After the Sentinels event, Jean brings you into her room to push the Sib angle. Cool. After you agree to it twice, she mentions that she doesn't really want to force you into it. If she had said that before you agreed to it, no problem, between agreeing it the first time and the second, whatever... but she straight up says it after you agree to it twice. Like seriously How much consent do you need?

Because someone saying that they would like to have sex with you isn't the same thing as someone saying they'd like to have sex with you right now.

The former is saying that it might have some day, maybe in the immediate future. The latter is saying your bones are getting jumped right now.

Keep in mind as well that it's still a big step for someone to offer their virginity and no one ever wants to feel like they've been pressured into giving it up. So you ask your partner if they're still sure. Because A PARTNER HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND IF THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE!

Consent is always needed until the deed is done.

 

[ＧＡＢ]

No no no I want to fool with her! Why give this option only to force it against me?

on second thought, is it a temporary thing? like when the scene is more expanded with content it will be fully added? or is it because I'm lacking in some stats or quest progression?

Additional note:
same thing with Laura and the restaurant

The game is offering the option

only to have me cockblock myself

 

[red1988]

you need high love and high trust here salty

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

what is sib dynamic? I tried googling it but nothing came up. Did you mean sibling dynamic? cause no one calls it sib :/

'Sib' is a pretty common abbreviation for sibling, at least in more casual writing. It might not be spoken aloud much, but I don't think it's something that really needs to be changed.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Is the dev team looking for a specific goal on patreon to continue?

Any amount helps. The more money we have coming in on patreon, the more money we have to spend on artist simultaneously.

As well as the ability to help pay members of the dev team. If this eventually gets profitable enough, we can dedicate more time to the project and get things to come out faster.

It's the usual Patreon dance. The more money we have, the faster and higher quality we can do things.

Because A PARTNER HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND IF THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE!

People forget that consent can be retracted at any moment.

Honestly, the longer this conversation goes on, the more uncomfortable it gets.

Why give this option only to force it against me?

That... seems like a bug. Jean shouldn't be like "Hey sexy" only to have us forcing you to pick the "No" option.

 

[ＧＡＢ]

That... seems like a bug. Jean shouldn't be like "Hey sexy" only to have us forcing you to pick the "No" option.

updated my post again, it happened with laura at the restaurant but this time the game offers the choice and I cockblock myself

 

[merleved]

updated my post again, it happened with laura at the restaurant but this time the game offers the choice and I cockblock myself

It happens with all LIs in my game and then it works later on. I feel like it is stat gated or chapter gated.

 

[Tim Long Curry]

Any amount helps. The more money we have coming in on patreon, the more money we have to spend on artist simultaneously.

As well as the ability to help pay members of the dev team. If this eventually gets profitable enough, we can dedicate more time to the project and get things to come out faster.

It's the usual Patreon dance. The more money we have, the faster and higher quality we can do things.


People forget that consent can be retracted at any moment.

Honestly, the longer this conversation goes on, the more uncomfortable it gets.


That... seems like a bug. Jean shouldn't be like "Hey sexy" only to have us forcing you to pick the "No" option.

I don't think the story beats that Crimx42 is talking about are an issue at all, but the constant game of Mother May I does get cringe pretty fast in the sex scenes. I get asking the first time or two, especially since all of the current girls have varying degrees of mental trauma, but after you've had full on sex with your girlfriend multiple times it's a bit ridiculous to be always asking “may I kiss you again?” “may I please touch your upper thigh for the third time this encounter?” etc. At some point it's on them to let you know if there is some change and they don't want you to do something that you've both been okay with for a while.

I know in some circles they say that every individual instance of sex should involve notarized consent forms for every step of the process, but I've never actually met anyone who does that IRL, and I have hard time imagining a more efficient way of making your partner drier than the Sahara than doing so Not that it ruined the game for me or anything, but I did have to stop reading the sex dialogue to avoid having my immersion broken. Don't get me wrong, I loved what there is so far and I'm really looking forward to more. I just think the sex dialogue needs more work if it's not going to more of a detriment to the experience than a boon.

 

[ＧＡＢ]

10/10 moment

 

[Dazzier31]

That... seems like a bug. Jean shouldn't be like "Hey sexy" only to have us forcing you to pick the "No" option.

Or he is lacking stats.

If it's a bug, that's been around since the betas. The options unlock themselves as your stats increase, so I think we all just went "Not enough stats, try again later" and went our merry ways.

 

[Locked1]

Or he is lacking stats.

If it's a bug, that's been around since the betas. The options unlock themselves as your stats increase, so I think we all just went "Not enough stats, try again later" and went our merry ways.

I mean, that sounds like a bug. If he's lacking stats then I wouldn't expect to get the pop up at all.

 

[RedPandaExpress]

I mean, that sounds like a bug. If he's lacking stats then I wouldn't expect to get the pop up at all.

From a coding perspective, looking at you seductively (and related actions) are the LI being aroused.
However, just because they are aroused doesn't mean they are willing to do anything, specifically in a public location. This eventually unlocks to things like "a blowjob under the table" and "Sex in the bathroom".

That said, perhaps not having it pop up if there are no options going to be available isn't a bad idea.

 

[bwazoo92]

Have all 3 maxed out at 1000 on both, still cant get any of them to do much in the fool around menu. Bug?

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

Reached the 'taking Jean's virginity' scene that comes once you've completed her Relationship III quest conditions and, while it's a great scene with some very heart-warming/chair-clattering lines from Jean, there's also a bug here that undercut it somewhat: her panties don't come off, which means Null's dick is just phasing right through them. Which then also makes me think that phasing is actually another one of Null's as-yet-unrevealed powers and that he's secretly Kit Pryde, this universe's genderswapped version of Kitty, hence why Kitty herself isn't in the game. Because you, the player, ARE Kitty.

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Or maybe it's just a glitch where the game neglected to fully remove Jean's outfit for whatever reason, and it should probably be taken out since it undermines the whole first time sex thing. But hey, my theory's more fun.

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

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No no no I want to fool with her! Why give this option only to force it against me?

on second thought, is it a temporary thing? like when the scene is more expanded with content it will be fully added? or is it because I'm lacking in some stats or quest progression?

Additional note:
same thing with Laura and the restaurant
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The game is offering the option
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only to have me cockblock myself

I assume this is just a dev oversight. Once you get their Love and/or Trust high enough (not sure which one it is for this), you can get them to do naughty stuff in public with you, like making out in the cinema or stealthily jerking each other off. But for whatever reason, the fooling around option is given to you BEFORE any of the options to actually fool around are also unlocked, which makes it redundant for a while. Just keep playing the game and they'll open up.

 

[ＧＡＢ]

error found

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/characters/Laura/events/dating/date.rpy", line 795, in <module>
NameError: name 'sex_act' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "scripts/mechanics/movement.rpyc", line 57, in script call
  File "scripts/locations/classroom.rpyc", line 61, in script call
  File "scripts/interactions/classes/classes.rpyc", line 270, in script call
  File "scripts/locations/classroom.rpyc", line 37, in script call
  File "scripts/mechanics/time.rpyc", line 196, in script call
  File "scripts/mechanics/events.rpyc", line 15, in script call
  File "scripts/base/events.rpyc", line 175, in script call
  File "characters/Laura/events/dating/date.rpyc", line 93, in script call
  File "characters/Laura/events/dating/date.rpyc", line 634, in script call
  File "characters/Laura/events/dating/date.rpyc", line 795, in script
  File "C:\Users\Client\Downloads\TheNullHypothesis-0.2b-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1723, in execute
    label = renpy.python.py_eval(label)
  File "C:\Users\Client\Downloads\TheNullHypothesis-0.2b-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\Client\Downloads\TheNullHypothesis-0.2b-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/characters/Laura/events/dating/date.rpy", line 795, in <module>
NameError: name 'sex_act' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.3.23091805
The Null Hypothesis 0.2b
Wed Nov  1 20:49:52 2023

save before it happens is attached

rolling back and looking at what happens in the game it seems to be the "foolign around during date" event, which i discussed a few minutes ago already

speaking of, Look at this girl. She is looking particularly at the "fooling around" option

You wouldn't say no to that, would you?


You monster, how could you tease me so much yet decline my god-given right (not accurate)!!


but yeah, it's really weird to cockblock myself and I feel like there should be another checkpoint before the option shows up