Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8a] [Ron Chon]
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mzerodark
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She's a victim of domestic abuse, which has a wide variety of negative psychological effects on the victim, as well as the child. Many victims of domestic abuse stay with their abuser, or even become more loyal to them, out of fear of violence, or embarrassment of not meeting social expectations of "being a family," or they have a feeling of depression and hopelessness regarding their situation. This could play some part in explaining her behaviour to stay with her boyfriend; but, it seems her primary reason is her concern for her child. Children of domestic violence victims tend to develop personal issues such as depression and anxiety. These problems would be in addition to the potential problems that arise by not having a father figure around. These cases of abuse are horrible examples of humanity. Rather than shaping games to match reality, I would prefer to play games that escape from them for a little while. We don't need constant reminders of how bad the world as gotten.
Elodrass
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Just finished the newest update and i really liked the story so far, but damn, one thing i wish was more developt is Null options when forming the relationships with the X-girls. Jean and Laura specially, as it is now comes down to playing along with their kinkys or trying to put a stop to it if those make you unconfortable, but Null himself being unable to introduce his, aka yours as a player, own preferences in the dynamic is kinda of... Disheartening i guess?
Like, let me give some exemples: When Laura calls Null to her room* for a talk about his relationship with Anna and wanting to be the Dom on yours, you can only accept or deny basically, a third option like "Hey, i feel more confortable being in control actually, can you work with that?" Would be really good to have, same with Jean's sibling dinamic, what is funny on that one to me is the "Third Option" i wished for at the time of the decision is kinda of what happens anyways, you taking the role of supportive partner instead of being the spoiled one, a pleasent surprise.
One more thing about the Laura dynamic, some options to try and move away from the "Is that what normal friends/boyfriend/Girlfriend would..." rationalization She and Null keep going for instead of figuring their own shit out would also be really nice, like the watching Null sleep thing, it boils down to "Normal Relationships don't work like that, stop" or "Normal Relationships don't work like that, but i like it so keep doing." in that case having the option to say "Look if helps you can crash on my bedroom when you're worried for me, no need to be sneaking around like a ninja in the backyard." or something of the sort.
Anyways i get it that the focus of the updates are on new content as it should be, just pointing out some stuff i thing could be improved immersion wise imo, all in all this game is really promising and Chapter 1 is already pretty good!
Like, let me give some exemples: When Laura calls Null to her room* for a talk about his relationship with Anna and wanting to be the Dom on yours, you can only accept or deny basically, a third option like "Hey, i feel more confortable being in control actually, can you work with that?" Would be really good to have, same with Jean's sibling dinamic, what is funny on that one to me is the "Third Option" i wished for at the time of the decision is kinda of what happens anyways, you taking the role of supportive partner instead of being the spoiled one, a pleasent surprise.
One more thing about the Laura dynamic, some options to try and move away from the "Is that what normal friends/boyfriend/Girlfriend would..." rationalization She and Null keep going for instead of figuring their own shit out would also be really nice, like the watching Null sleep thing, it boils down to "Normal Relationships don't work like that, stop" or "Normal Relationships don't work like that, but i like it so keep doing." in that case having the option to say "Look if helps you can crash on my bedroom when you're worried for me, no need to be sneaking around like a ninja in the backyard." or something of the sort.
Anyways i get it that the focus of the updates are on new content as it should be, just pointing out some stuff i thing could be improved immersion wise imo, all in all this game is really promising and Chapter 1 is already pretty good!
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Agreed and I'm with you there. Also wish more people in this forum would voice out their wants in a similar way, instead of lashing out aggressively from the get-go armed with buzzwords and an attitude.
As for me, I'd also like the possibility of "turning the tables" on Jean, it'd be kinda nice. She wants to smother me with affection? "Well, I think big smart sis has been an awesome and amazing girl and deserves a reward. Let you lil bro smother you for a bit".
...Yeah it was cringe writing that, but hopefully the point came across haha.
Elodrass
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Fr, can't wait for Null to pull the biggest big brain move in this game, solving the Phoenix Crysis by being a supportive partner
In 3a the choice selection background red.
In 3b the choice selection became purple.
Any chance this could instead be made color palette selectable?
In 3b the choice selection became purple.
Any chance this could instead be made color palette selectable?
It is selectable. Based on the player background color chosen during character creation. Can be changed anytime if you go into the player's bathroom and look at the mirror.
Love the art in this. I think the grind is a little too much though. Also, we shouldn't be prevented from flirting with the girls after the first time every day. Just make the first time give points but keep the option open always. It makes it feel like the interactions are for the points only rather than immersively interacting with the girls. Or make it once per time slot like Rogue-like. Would help with the grind.
Elodrass
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This would be cool, maybe once per time slot (morning, Midday. etc) for each girl, but the Flirt options only reset after you go to sleep, so you can only use each one once per day per girl, thus preventing the player from using compliments every single time for the double dip in Love and Trust lol
That said, i didn't find it to grind on my second playtrough for the 0.3b once i learned how to optimize your time and money, like, take your Stamina to 3 as soon as you can, put one time slot everyday to working for Xavier, use the money to buy gifts at the mall, form a party with the girl to attend classes and go sunbathing with them on the evenings for the Trust farming, meanwhile you can get around 30 Love per day with sexy times during the night, with Stamina 3 you can handle all of them once per day. Also the story events. In other words... Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.
As a nice bonus the gifts sometimes have some pretty sweet interactions when giving them, like the box of chocolates to Laura, goddam the smol murder machine must be protected at all costs.
the differences are their personalities: Rogue is more of a submissive preferring for MC to make choices for her and to be gentle with her. Laura is the dominant type and will actively stalk you if you encourage her overprotective nature. and Jean is the big sister type who likes to dote on MC but also needs someone to help her feel better about anything that might be wrong like if she is feeling upset about something. personally my favorite is Rogue since she is the first girl we meet and who has had a rough start because of her power but is optimistic when MC comes into the picture
Just "finished" the game. I must say I choose Jean in this run since I kinda didn't like the fact that my first experience with Rouge (I still can't call her Anna) was just her saying NO it was basically foreplay blue balls level (I don't know all girls started like that hence I dropped Rogue immediately) [I had the problem of Rogue wanting me but dating Jean so she would randomly loss love since I had to stop replying on those date text] Realistically speaking I think Rogue is for the chill type, pretty laid back middle ground while both Jean and Laura (X-23) are on the 2 sides of the spectrum. Real ones know Laura is better than Jean but Jean clears in bed, not even close if both had a really life counterpart. I guess the morale of the story is to play all 3 girls first before judging but then again Rogue the most "normal" one out of the bunch?
(Just curious could you simultaneously date all 3 at the same without any of them catching you or you could just state you'd want to date someone)
(Just curious could you simultaneously date all 3 at the same without any of them catching you or you could just state you'd want to date someone)
When you get together with a girl, you can tell her that you wanna have more than one girl and you can go for all 3 girls. Doing so without telling them is possible but there is a high chance they catch you.
I find it funny that this game hasn't really been in a playable state all that long and it already has more content than Oni's despite 'only' having 3 girls.
The story is pretty freaking dark in places. That might turn some away.
The story is pretty freaking dark in places. That might turn some away.
Elodrass
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People trying to be sneaky on Jean and Laura are just hilarious to me, sure dude, you are totally gonna be able to cheat on a Omega level Telepath and a Sensory enhanced super ninja assassin without they noticing, you're just build like that lol
Or you know, just go for the polyamorous relationship, way less likely to cause a mass extiction event and/or Adamantiun related amputations
Or you know, just go for the polyamorous relationship, way less likely to cause a mass extiction event and/or Adamantiun related amputations
Just wondering how do you get trust, I'm like maxed on love but my trust is lagging by 200 points. What's the best way to get trust?
Mutation8888
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This is a good example of constructive criticism. More options may be nice to have, but who's idea of the MCs wants and desires should they go with to create those extra responses? Every individual has their own way of seeing things and will have a different response, so the list could get prohibitively exhaustive. My take on it is that the creators had to limit down responses to what they felt best described the personality of the MC and situation and then guide the player around choices based on individual LIs to try to give the MC choices as to who the favorite would be based on player preferences. If they went the other direction with every LI the list of potential responses would literally be a mile long and take years to code just one season (not to mention just be code with no cash for artwork). There will always be limitations.
Elodrass
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There are the gifts from the mall, but the one i end up using mostly is the "Study Group" method to farm it: go to every girl in the morning, ask them to follow you, also flirt using Compliment since some of those also give Trust, then go to the class with everyone. Each class session gives you 6 Trust for everyone present.
Another thing is to get your Stamina to 3, so you can farm the single time slots for training and studying one on one for everyone during the day, 6 Trust for each of those too. There is also sunbathing/swimming that gives 2 Trust per time slot for people in the pool with you.
I've encountered an issue where I can't go on a date with Jean because she never shows up, got the bugfix installed and it seems it only affects her cause Laura and Anna routes work.
Edit: Fixed it, had to load a different save but lost progress.
Edit: Fixed it, had to load a different save but lost progress.
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