Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8a] [Ron Chon]

[salscou]

Well, I don't mean to be dismissive, but if someone's gonna be disappointed, I'd rather it not be me, yeah? It's the same concern you have for your own preferences.

No, youre just selfish.
Im all in for people getting their polycule hijinks because to each their own, youre here arguing that people shouldnt get anything for not going along with that, so no, fuck off, like it was said before, you cant have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Testerguy19]

I don't really get the arguments on here since I haven't played for a while but everyone calm your privates, it's a fun game just like any other good F95 ones, not that seriously deep aha (proceeding to play soon)

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

God, thank you, that was one of my complaints some time ago, that without some exclusive content, monogamous runs would just be pointless since youd only be locking yourself out of content for roleplaying reasons, this is good news.

Cannot agree more!

The only news that could be better is if they officially confirm Magik. It sucks that they leave her status in...limbo

I have yet to start a monogamy playthrough but after hearing what Shiny said I am gonna have to start planning one it seems , Rogue and Laura are definitely top contenders for that , same goes for Kitty

I'm happy you're happy.

Will the future chapters progress through relationship goals as well? I get it makes sense for Null to absorb power bits from Rogue, Laura and Jean for the sake of gaining a quick, strong basis in combat and become relevant in high caliber threats. But beyond that, and in the spirit of the game not being explicitly designed to magnetize all dem hoes around you, it'd be nice if ya boy N can catch a break from being the cafeteria psychologist and be allowed to have more distant, or even somewhat bad relationships with certain gals.

Current content isn't designed through relationship goals. You can get your powers by being good friends.

Marriage? ShinyBoots1993

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Shinny did confirm that you can put a ring on it towards endgame.

Our headwriter is gaga for marriage so yeah.

I have achieved 73/75 achievements.


Bronze V Card - Remain Celibate Throughout Chapter 1
Xavier's List - Maintain a 4.0 GPA for an Entire Chapter

These two are the only ones I haven't been able to achieve, which I believe is due to Chapter 1 technically not ending.

Correct.

Since the poll is showing a majority choosing the fully poly routes, will this be looked at being adjusted since the primary reason was because of the previous thinking that they were in the minority?

I'm kinda shocked since reading these forums I was under the impression that I was in the minority.

Depends on how the devs respond to the data.

I may be interpreting his post wrong but what I got from it was that he just wanted a full rich story experience the same as the monogamous route. From comments like this.

I don't have to worry about missing significant content in a single run because I can fully romance all the girls.

I'd hoped each girl's overarching character story and romance would be intact regardless of how many other girls were in the group.

All of this is true. Chill your tits.

Picking everyone will more than likely have the most content just due to sheer volume. But there will be interactions that are mutually exclusive based off of pairings, solo, or all.

This. Stuff like friendzoned Jean ain't majority content.

Beg pardon while I have ShinyCunt on block

Wow. Rude.

Okay I think one side of this debate is reading into this wrong or both are. I belive what ShinyBoots1993 was trying to say is that there will be variations in the relationships depending on what you pick, so mono and poly routes will get some slight variations in the dialogue and maybe scenes etc. I don't believe either one will suffer from this it's just branching routes how you'd expect from any narrative driven game. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

None of the main plot is gated to monogamous play and as stated multiple times, you can do girl storylines platonically. We have an achievement placeholder for this. That should be evidence enough.

I'm guessing that the sex scenes will be shared among all the routes, with only dialogue and story beats being exclusive. So you won't be missing out on any of the sex scenes but will be missing out on different dialogue which is to be expected.

Only sex scenes you'll be missing out on are unique scenes that each girl has. So despite the irrational gut reaction, monogamous people are missing out on something.

Karma

Lesbian. Not gonna be an option for male Nulls.

 

[Sherengroth]

will it be only the current ones that you bang or will you eventually hook up with some women from the brotherhood like mystic? will there also eventually be pregnancy ?

 

[Giltia]

I don't believe this for a second. The writers have proven they have the skill to do EXACTLY that without feeling cheap. They can definitely maintain depth of characterization and romance across both poly and mono routes, without making it feel like mono players have an anemic experience during the bulk of the game. If they choose not to, it'll be just that- a choice. A choice entirely up to them, made for what I'm sure are perfectly valid reasons, but one I also hope they play out in a way that I still personally find satisfying. There's absolutely a balance to be found, and without knowing what they have in store, I can't know what that balance might be or if they care to strike it. Therein lies my worry and my need to voice it, whether it helps my case or not, whether players or devs agree or not.

I think you miss my point slightly, because the balance in both routes is having the slightly branching routes depending on the relationships, a story without consequence for your actions whether they be good or bad is bad writing and that's an objective fact. I'm not saying it has be TT TWD, but having variations in routes only enriches gameplay and narrative, let's say you're mono Rogue I don't believe it's unfair to the poly route to have an exclusive date setting, likewise if you're on the poly route I don't believe it would be unfair to have an exclusive group outing and the like. Playing games like this will always draw some kind of divide amongst it's players and you can't make everyone happy, so the simple solution is to craft multiple stories that can apply to various player choices.

 

[Giltia]

Our headwriter is gaga for marriage so yeah.

Send them my love, they have good taste.

 

[Hazeti]

Me getting thread notifications from TNH : Ooooh i wonder what stuff is getting discussed

Me opening those said notifications :



Folks ya'll need to chill down , here look at this and just simmer down with the pointless back and forth

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The dev teams knows what they are doing and so far they haven't let the fans down and replayability should be looked at as a good thing and although i understand the pov of players who want all of the content in a single playthrough but i can never see that happening in a game of this size and scope

 

[FP00]

Lesbian. Not gonna be an option for male Nulls.

Right, fucking hell how did I forget that.

Even reading over a hundred different comic issues and I still apparently know fuck all about comics.

Fixing my mistake.

 

[Hazeti]

I'm happy you're happy.

You should know by now that i am very happy with the current state of the game and the direction you guys are taking it in and despite what some people feel to be a long dev cycle for each update it honestly doesn't feel like it , 2 - 3 months gap between each update and sometimes even less is more than enough in my eyes since it brings in more quality and polish

I just hope once chapter 1 is done we can go back to the story at full force once more

 

[drunkenrioter]

No, youre just selfish.
Im all in for people getting their polycule hijinks because to each their own, youre here arguing that people shouldnt get anything for not going along with that, so no, fuck off, like it was said before, you cant have your cake and eat it too.

That's genuinely disappointing; disagreement aside, you generally seem like a cool dude. I'd prefer this doesn't become a sticking point going forward, so for what little it's worth, I apologize if I came across as a dickhead.

All of this is true. Chill your tits.


This. Stuff like friendzoned Jean ain't majority content.

Thank you, this puts most of my concerns to rest, and I'll drop the matter.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I'm not saying it has be TT TWD

I strive for but promise nothing.

Now I sleep.

 

[salscou]

That's genuinely disappointing; disagreement aside, you generally seem like a cool dude. I'd prefer this doesn't become a sticking point going forward, so for what little it's worth, I apologize if I came across as a dickhead.

Just because we disagree in something doesnt mean we are on bad terms or anyting dude, chill, im just saying youre acting like this.


What you said its as unreasonable as if i started arguing that monogamous routes should have access to threesome scenes or else ill get pissed because im missing on content, when that is precisely the point, there should be advantages to playing different ways.

 

[sk1122]

With the amount of interest the game is getting at the moment, I'd be really surprised if there won't be any mods that enable you to switch into the mono/poly parts at will once significant content of that sort becomes available.

 

[drunkenrioter]

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Oh hey, my yearbook photo, where'd you get that?

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Maybe it's too much, but do you think we'll have a period where we meet Alpha Flight? Probably not, cause that's a bit of artwork for just a single event, but it would be neat. Maybe we'd get the opportunity to fight Wendigo alongside Wolverine.

 

[FP00]

Well now that I've fixed my fuck up and did some actual research here is my second attempt at guessing the following chapter girls because it is better than this argument:

Chapter 3 girls:
Mirage, Magik, and Wolfsbane

Chapter 4 girls:
Jubilee, Rachel Summers, and Magma

Chapter 5 girls:
Emma, Boom-Boom, Polaris

Why Emma and Polaris in chapter 5? Well, Polaris was under mind control for the entire Mr. Sinister arc, which will likely be chapter 4, and barely had a role previously, so having her join at the end of the chapter 4 arc when she is freed makes the most sense. Emma becomes more and more affiliated with the X-Men during the years chapter 5 will cover as well. Polaris isn't included because I am not sure anyone wants to deal with the Kwannon mess, and other girls introduced during this time are not included because I haven't read anything with them yet.

Again, this in no way matches what the devs have planned and is only based on Uncanny X-Men up to 240 and a wiki dive.

 

[drunkenrioter]

Emma becomes more and more affiliated with the X-Men during the years chapter 5 will cover as well.

While your reasoning seems sound (I can't say for sure; I still haven't sat down to read the comics properly), I think announcing Emma so early on only to sideline her full romance for three whole chapters would have a fair number of people eyeing their torches and pitchforks.

 

[SerHawkes]

While your reasoning seems sound (I can't say for sure; I still haven't sat down to read the comics properly), I think announcing Emma so early on only to sideline her full romance for three whole chapters would have a fair number of people eyeing their torches and pitchforks.

She will likely be a end of Chapter or part 3/chapter 2 romance join. Otherwise it would be pointless to have her simply be a villain and to wait 3 chapters for her then join as you say.

 

[JustCallMeSteve]

Well now that I've fixed my fuck up and did some actual research here is my second attempt at guessing the following chapter girls because it is better than this argument:

Chapter 3 girls:
Mirage, Magik, and Wolfsbane

Chapter 4 girls:
Jubilee, Rachel Summers, and Magma

Chapter 5 girls:
Emma, Boom-Boom, Polaris

Why Emma and Polaris in chapter 5? Well, Polaris was under mind control for the entire Mr. Sinister arc, which will likely be chapter 4, and barely had a role previously, so having her join at the end of the chapter 4 arc when she is freed makes the most sense. Emma becomes more and more affiliated with the X-Men during the years chapter 5 will cover as well. Polaris isn't included because I am not sure anyone wants to deal with the Kwannon mess, and other girls introduced during this time are not included because I haven't read anything with them yet.

Again, this in no way matches what the devs have planned and is only based on Uncanny X-Men up to 240 and a wiki dive.

I will point out that one of the devs has stated recently that if there had not already been art and writing for Laura and Rogue, that Polaris would've been one of the chapter 1 LI's.

Taking that into account, Polaris could show up earlier than ch 5, potentially.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

While your reasoning seems sound (I can't say for sure; I still haven't sat down to read the comics properly), I think announcing Emma so early on only to sideline her full romance for three whole chapters would have a fair number of people eyeing their torches and pitchforks.

Eh. Gooners. Having them edge for a couple of years might do 'em some good - help 'em build character and learn some restraint.