Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8b1] [Ron Chon]

[FacelessVixen]

It has 2gb of vram so I imagine it won't be fun.

Well...





The game certainly filled up the 2GBs of video memory, but the other 3GBs went into system memory. No lag. No flickering clothing. Kind of anticlimactic, though par for the course for when happens when you're short on video memory - granted for a game on an engine that doesn't need "gaming" level hardware. Also, I'd say that this benchmark was just for fun since you'd only use a 750 Ti with 32GBs of RAM and an i9 if your main GPU died and you have a 750 Ti laying around.

So, to attempt for a more "balanced" configuration: mimicking an 9th Gen Core i3 (4 cores, 4 threads, no hyper-threading), dropped myself down to 16GBs of RAM, and the 750 Ti is still in:



No lag here - still running normally.

Now switching to Intel UHD 630:



...And now we're talking about seconds-per-frame - including turning on Live2D Lite and Low Resolution, setting the image cache to 512 MB, Image Prediction on, and Multithreading disabled. It's safe to say that I found the CPU limitation with this config.

Now still on Intel UHD 630, but giving myself 2 more cores so that I'm mimicking an i5 9600K:



The game is playable and responsive again in the 30 frames range.

And now putting the 750 Ti back in, but mimicking an 9th Gen i3 again.



So, out of the seven system configurations I've tested so far, I've only had significant slow-down with the quad-core, Intel HD and 16GB of RAM configuration. The clothes flickering that Boss and I mentioned seems to be an issue with AMD CPUs based on his laptop and the Steam Deck. Though, the important thing is that video memory, and even having dedicated graphics, is only a part of the story as to why some folks like Justonemore20 were having issues running this game. And now I wonder what exactly Dittymyman is working with and if he bothered to try the current version.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Well...

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The game certainly filled up the 2GBs of video memory, but the other 3GBs went into system memory. No lag. No flickering clothing. Kind of anticlimactic, though par for the course for when happens when you're short on video memory - granted for a game on an engine that doesn't need "gaming" level hardware. Also, I'd say that this benchmark was just for fun since you'd only use a 750 Ti with 32GBs of RAM and an i9 if your main GPU died and you have a 750 Ti laying around.

So, to attempt for a more "balanced" configuration: mimicking an 9th Gen Core i3 (4 cores, 4 threads, no hyper-threading), dropped myself down to 16GBs of RAM, and the 750 Ti is still in:

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No lag here - still running normally.

Now switching to Intel UHD 630:

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...And now we're talking about seconds-per-frame - including turning on Live2D Lite and Low Resolution, setting the image cache to 512 MB, Image Prediction on, and Multithreading disabled. It's safe to say that I found the CPU limitation with this config.

Now still on Intel UHD 630, but giving myself 2 more cores so that I'm mimicking an i5 9600K:

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The game is playable and responsive again in the 30 frames range.

And now putting the 750 Ti back in, but mimicking an 9th Gen i3 again.

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So, out of the seven system configurations I've tested so far, I've only had significant slow-down with the quad-core, Intel HD and 16GB of RAM configuration. The clothes flickering that Boss and I mentioned seems to be an issue with AMD CPUs based on his laptop and the Steam Deck. Though, the important thing is that video memory, and even having dedicated graphics, is only a part of the story as to why some folks like Justonemore20 were having issues running this game. And now I wonder what exactly Dittymyman is working with and if he bothered to try the current version.

Yeah.
The Intel UHD has no vram or edram or whatever the video memory cache equivalent is on inegrated chips and goes straight to standard memory. And it looks like you are maxing out the cpu on that first uhd test.

 

[Vombalk]

any news on update?

 

[FacelessVixen]

Yeah.
The Intel UHD has no vram or edram or whatever the video memory cache equivalent is on inegrated chips and goes straight to standard memory. And it looks like you are maxing out the cpu on that first uhd test.

Yeah, that one was pretty bad - even Windows 11 just by itself had noticeable lag on that one, and screen tearing. The Windows 11 overhead was pretty real. But it is interesting to know that either having 6-core CPU or having dedicated video acceleration significantly helps - the GPU being the more helpful of the two, of course. ...and Linux can potentially help, come to think of it; which would be the next thing to try on my older desktop if I felt like doing it.

With all that said and done, godspeed to those using Intel's N-series, Atom, Celeron or Pentium chips and the AMD equivalents. Those are the Bothans who died so that we could get the information on the second Death Star.

 

[BossTheRoss80]

Game isn't graphic intensive. Vram of the graphics card seems to be the cause for issues for this game from what FacelessVixen seemed to be implying.

So, out of the seven system configurations I've tested so far, I've only had significant slow-down with the quad-core, Intel HD and 16GB of RAM configuration. The clothes flickering that Boss and I mentioned seems to be an issue with AMD CPUs based on his laptop and the Steam Deck. Though, the important thing is that video memory, and even having dedicated graphics, is only a part of the story as to why some folks like Justonemore20 were having issues running this game. And now I wonder what exactly Dittymyman is working with and if he bothered to try the current version.

I just checked it and 1650 Ti's VRAM is 4 GB, which is higher than 750 Ti's according to The_Man_With_No_Name. I also use Win10. It is definitely an issue with AMD, they have weird issues like that.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

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I know why it's done, but it always bothered me that MC's legs are cut off in this pose.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I just checked it and 1650 Ti's VRAM is 4 GB, which is higher than 750 Ti's according to The_Man_With_No_Name. I also use Win10. It is definitely an issue with AMD, they have weird issues like that.

Interplay between vram and the cpu I guess. I have a Ryzen that's not that much newer than yours I think and I'm fine. But then I have far more vram so I'm sure that helps.

 

[\\_Tremolo_//]

any news on update?

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

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We're going to have to post that every other page aren't we.

 

[\\_Tremolo_//]

We're going to have to post that every other page aren't we.

It's officialy patented by me

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

It's officialy patented by me

Are you ground zero for the spread?
I've seen it buzz around the forum from time to time.

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

It seems Null is not immune to the effects of balding. Such a tragedy...

Evidently, he must have now also absorbed Professor Xavier's mutant power of being bald.
Why? What new danger to his life caused him to spontaneously mutate male pattern baldness? Who knows? Perhaps we'll find out in Chapter 2!

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Evidently, he must have now also absorbed Professor Xavier's mutant power of being bald.
Why? What new danger to his life caused him to spontaneously mutate male pattern baldness? Who knows? Perhaps we'll find out in Chapter 2!

Side effect of dealing with Magneto.

 

[\\_Tremolo_//]

Are you ground zero for the spread?
I've seen it buzz around the forum from time to time.

Busted

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

Side effect of dealing with Magneto.

 

[pepplez]

Side effect of dealing with Magneto.

He ripped it out himself in rage.

 

[1y3uehsbqgs]

Still on my "Null is David Haller agenda"
(would be cool if we could at least sport his hair)

 

[GuyOneTwo]

hey, how do i trigger the pool partyy?

 

[kokotheworm]

Apologies if this has allready been asked and replied, but the Mc has nullifying power and mimicking power. Does he also has amplifying power? Could he turn up the power of Rogue,Jean or Laura?

 

[notstaged]

This is wild. Never seen someone running benchmark tests on penis RenPy games, but I guess there's a first time for everything.