Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8b1] [Ron Chon]

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swiver

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fapderp11 said:
Thanks for going into so much detail, I've been having trouble getting Rogue to agree to poly. When you say 250 love and 600 trust though, do you mean all girls? Cause I have way more love and trust than that with Rogue and she still doesn't wanna go poly. So should I get Jean and Laura to 250/600 too?
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I made it almost I think, like I said my problem was jean as I had already got rogue to trust, love and "be my girlfriend" at which point I got option to mention I got other LIs.

I havent' been able to finish 3 dates with Laura coz of Jean, also had the "be my gf" talk and said I am interested in others as well and she said wait on that... the trust needed is 300 i guess, which you cannot achieve without progressing the story_ by allowing the next event. I kept postponing it hoping i'd get more then thought it was a bug but no, the love/trust counters do not resume increasing until after the Jugger incident. I kept getting trust/love maxed before.

FYI i did manage to hook up with Laura and Anna here and there, but it is tricky, you cannot go on a date or the like, must make sure Jean is busy with something else, lock the door, and prbbly safest not to sleep over.

It was interesting to see the drama being caught, once I went on a date wiht laura and after "fun" as i was passing out saw crazy msg's from jean, then in the morning she makes a scene. another time i just flirted with one or the other in the locker room and she came crashing. if it weren't for the grind i'd be curious to play thru the drama, see how i can convince jean to speak to me again etc. and regain the trust points... but yea, i am hindered by the nuisance of life lol...

oh and the i got lil bro too after event
but not big sis
 
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swiver said:
I made it almost I think, like I said my problem was jean as I had already got rogue to trust, love and "be my girlfriend" at which point I got option to mention I got other LIs.

I havent' been able to finish 3 dates with Laura coz of Jean, also had the "be my gf" talk and said I am interested in others as well and she said wait on that... the trust needed is 300 i guess, which you cannot achieve without progressing the story_ by allowing the next event. I kept postponing it hoping i'd get more then thought it was a bug but no, the love/trust counters do not resume increasing until after the Jugger incident. I kept getting trust/love maxed before.

FYI i did manage to hook up with Laura and Anna here and there, but it is tricky, you cannot go on a date or the like, must make sure Jean is busy with something else, lock the door, and prbbly safest not to sleep over.

It was interesting to see the drama being caught, once I went on a date wiht laura and after "fun" as i was passing out saw crazy msg's from jean, then in the morning she makes a scene. another time i just flirted with one or the other in the locker room and she came crashing. if it weren't for the grind i'd be curious to play thru the drama, see how i can convince jean to speak to me again etc. and regain the trust points... but yea, i am hindered by the nuisance of life lol...

oh and the i got lil bro too after event
but not big sis
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Oh I haven't done any of the dates with Laura or Jean bc Rogue is my gf right now, so I was afraid of her taking it as cheating. So I gotta do those then? I already got Rogue and Jean to good friends and Rogue and Laura to best friends.
 
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Oh I haven't done any of the dates with Laura or Jean bc Rogue is my gf right now, so I was afraid of her taking it as cheating. So I gotta do those then? I already got Rogue and Jean to good friends and Rogue and Laura to best friends.
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dont know if you have to make your relationshipp with them romantic, if that what you mean.. there was at least twice an option to let's just be friends or the like

getting them to be friends is def related to trust... but i'm not sure why you didn't get the option to mention to her you won't be exclusive (as soon as you ask to be gf/bf) maybe woulldn't hurt to experiment a bit, try it out and reload if there's a set back?

but do check your chat options with rogue whilst alone, maybe you have the option to tell her, or maybe it only comes up if you're starting to develop a relationship with the others

i'm guessing looking under the hood will find the conditions if you're up to tailing if/then chains... no idea where the code is though
 
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aside from storm what other girls are planned? did I miss that announcement somewhere? probably, I am kinda dumb. autocorrect saves me a ton
 
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Just gotta love reoccurring bugs that were supposedly fixed in previous versions of the game.
Winter 1: Anna girlfriend gets pissed off and heart broken that I took Jean on a date. Everything gets better and all 3 are best/good friends respectively.
Spring 1: Anna finally agrees to dating more than just her and ask her permission to date Laura and Jean. Ask Laura to be girlfriend, and permission to date Jean. Go to sleep and wake up to pissed off and heart broken Anna all over again.
 
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swiver said:
dont know if you have to make your relationshipp with them romantic, if that what you mean.. there was at least twice an option to let's just be friends or the like

getting them to be friends is def related to trust... but i'm not sure why you didn't get the option to mention to her you won't be exclusive (as soon as you ask to be gf/bf) maybe woulldn't hurt to experiment a bit, try it out and reload if there's a set back?

but do check your chat options with rogue whilst alone, maybe you have the option to tell her, or maybe it only comes up if you're starting to develop a relationship with the others

i'm guessing looking under the hood will find the conditions if you're up to tailing if/then chains... no idea where the code is though
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Oh yeah I've told Rogue I wanna date others, but she doesn't want to go poly yet, that's my problem
 
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Polyamory:
Don't feel pressured to complete side-quests during early seasons, in particular the first 2-3 seasons with their lousy stat limits (250/500/750/1000). Side-quests are taken over to the next season, except this attend-class one where you get a +20% xp bonus per season. Gifts and dates are more suitable for season 3 spring or better 4 summer as the main story objective dialogues can easily make the stats bump to the limits and you'll regret grinding too much early. That's why I recommend not to feel forced to grind, but rather take it slow and focus on the main story objectives at beginning.

Love requirement is supposedly 750/750, but my stats for Rogue were 671/667 when she accepted other dates. Friendships among the girls were already maxed at this time, but "Best Friend" shouldn't be necessary among R+L only. Jean can't be BF to anyone yet.
Love and Sex both have 750/750 and different event-dialogues what could be mixed up in particular for Laura who is always confused about this.
I also still missed the second quirk of Laura, where I read in the files something about Love-requirement, but not sure if I forgot a dialogue option somewhere. Quirks shouldn't be necessary for anything like poly anyway.
Yeah, it's all a bit fuzzy to follow with these stat-requirement. I'm going to make better notes on my second playthrough when the next major update hits.
There are three Relationship side-quests I/II/III followed by Love. I recommend to do the one where you have to do 3 dates to complete with all girls slowly simultanously, so you won't progress too quickly with one girl. As long as no one is in love, there should be no problem to date everyone.
Dates take a long time, so don't overdo it with them as they also cost money as long as Null wasn't invited and the girls insist to pay. Fooling around should be much faster to earn love at least. Trust is fast enough earned during taking classes together and studying in the evening/night, besides picking the right event dialogue choices.
 
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fapderp11 said:
Oh yeah I've told Rogue I wanna date others, but she doesn't want to go poly yet, that's my problem
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so yeah I sort of assumed last night that I'd gotten to the point where it would work but turns out no as freddybelow confirms..

I'm not sure if it means i would have gotten a greenlight from all 3 to be with the others had i already finished all dates before: i got all dates of R and J, but only the first allowed poly (maybe this was automatic since I had already got gf-status with J).

As explained below, having not gone thru 3 dates with L before I got jealous J, means the development of "Laura Relationship" will have to wait. And, seeing that all "X Realtionship" quests are "side Quests" it should not effect the rest of the game.

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Polyamory:
Don't feel pressured to complete side-quests during early seasons, in particular the first 2-3 seasons with their lousy stat limits (250/500/750/1000). Side-quests are taken over to the next season, except this attend-class one where you get a +20% xp bonus per season. Gifts and dates are more suitable for season 3 spring or better 4 summer as the main story objective dialogues can easily make the stats bump to the limits and you'll regret grinding too much early. That's why I recommend not to feel forced to grind, but rather take it slow and focus on the main story objectives at beginning.

Love requirement is supposedly 750/750, but my stats for Rogue were 671/667 when she accepted other dates. Friendships among the girls were already maxed at this time, but "Best Friend" shouldn't be necessary among R+L only. Jean can't be BF to anyone yet.
Love and Sex both have 750/750 and different event-dialogues what could be mixed up in particular for Laura who is always confused about this.
I also still missed the second quirk of Laura, where I read in the files something about Love-requirement, but not sure if I forgot a dialogue option somewhere. Quirks shouldn't be necessary for anything like poly anyway.
Yeah, it's all a bit fuzzy to follow with these stat-requirement. I'm going to make better notes on my second playthrough when the next major update hits.
There are three Relationship side-quests I/II/III followed by Love. I recommend to do the one where you have to do 3 dates to complete with all girls slowly simultanously, so you won't progress too quickly with one girl. As long as no one is in love, there should be no problem to date everyone.
Dates take a long time, so don't overdo it with them as they also cost money as long as Null wasn't invited and the girls insist to pay. Fooling around should be much faster to earn love at least. Trust is fast enough earned during taking classes together and studying in the evening/night, besides picking the right event dialogue choices.
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thanks for the explanation..

I hope I haven't missed anything by gifting them everything i could afford regularly...

funny how i sort of expected the game to be much smaller, like thru the grind to increase options in season one was how i''m getting most of the game...

problem now, i don't see how i can stop playing before i got to work next week. (this is why i haven't touched a serious PC game in a decade)... this is so FUN!
 
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Does anyone know if there's a console command to fix Rogue complaining that I cheated on her with laura even though I've long since gotten permission from her to date all the girls? Or if there's plans to fix it in .5b?
 
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OnlyUsedForNever said:
Does anyone know if there's a console command to fix Rogue complaining that I cheated on her with laura even though I've long since gotten permission from her to date all the girls? Or if there's plans to fix it in .5b?
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From the change log in King_In_Yellow's post as an attachment:
<cheating overhaul>
- we've changed how we're handling the cheating flags, hopefully the new system is much more intuitive and less prone to weird delayed behaviors!
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But we'll see for sure when we get our hands on it.
 
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