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I'm not sure if this has been asked before but I have a... request? Question?

Is it possible that a week or so before 0.3 drops we could get a "New Character Reveal"? Specifically one that comes with a recommended reading list like Jean, Laura, and Rogue currently have. Before playing this I'd only read early-to-mid Claremont era X-Men so it was immensely helpful in better understanding the characters, Laura in particular. Obviously its no real heartbreak to wait and find the list in game once the patch drops, just thought it was worth an ask.
There is no new reading needed for V0.3. No new girls being added just yet.

There's been a lot of talk on this thread, so you may have missed the explanation.

Condensed version
Minor Updates = Same Chapter
New Girls = New Chapter

Longer version
Right now they are still working on Chapter 1. Between features that didn't quite make it in originally, features that didn't quite work, and a desire to overall polish the original model - the devs are busy making sure that Chapter 1 is really up to snuff before doing chapter 2.

This is by no means to say that they aren't working on Chapter 2 though. Despite having an incredibly talented team of artists they are working with, the amount of art assets they need takes time. A shirt alone has several phases that have to be drawn which gives the 'undressing' effect, as well as the 'flashing' effect. So you can see how just getting the basic art in place for a new character takes time. And that time is being divided because as much as they'd love to bring in Ororo, [Redacted], and [Redacted], they don't want to neglect our current sweeties.

The general sentiment from the Dev team has been "We'd rather do one chapter right than do two chapters half-assed."
 

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There is no new reading needed for V0.3. No new girls being added just yet.

There's been a lot of talk on this thread, so you may have missed the explanation.

Condensed version
Minor Updates = Same Chapter
New Girls = New Chapter

Longer version
Right now they are still working on Chapter 1. Between features that didn't quite make it in originally, features that didn't quite work, and a desire to overall polish the original model - the devs are busy making sure that Chapter 1 is really up to snuff before doing chapter 2.

This is by no means to say that they aren't working on Chapter 2 though. Despite having an incredibly talented team of artists they are working with, the amount of art assets they need takes time. A shirt alone has several phases that have to be drawn which gives the 'undressing' effect, as well as the 'flashing' effect. So you can see how just getting the basic art in place for a new character takes time. And that time is being divided because as much as they'd love to bring in Ororo, [Redacted], and [Redacted], they don't want to neglect our current sweeties.

The general sentiment from the Dev team has been "We'd rather do one chapter right than do two chapters half-assed."
Ah, thank you for the clarification. Fully understanding that it is still far out, I guess my question would be "Have they considered an early release of the suggested reading list when Chapter 2 is finished and awaiting release".

Edit: Is the discord only a thing for patreons?
 
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Ah, thank you for the clarification. Fully understanding that it is still far out, I guess my question would be "Have they considered an early release of the suggested reading list when Chapter 2 is finished and awaiting release".

Edit: Is the discord only a thing for patreons?
Knowing the Devs...they just might be willing to do that.

As for the discord, you can get the link from in the game. On the main menu, it's the middle button on the left side of the screen. While there are some channels that are patreon exclusive, the majority of the place is wide open for any fans who want to come, so long as they play nice.
 
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I'm not sure if this has been asked before but I have a... request? Question?

Is it possible that a week or so before 0.3 drops we could get a "New Character Reveal"? Specifically one that comes with a recommended reading list like Jean, Laura, and Rogue currently have. Before playing this I'd only read early-to-mid Claremont era X-Men so it was immensely helpful in better understanding the characters, Laura in particular. Obviously its no real heartbreak to wait and find the list in game once the patch drops, just thought it was worth an ask.
where's the fun in knowing who will be added?
 
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where's the fun in knowing who will be added?
I think you misunderstand me. I'm not concerned about who is coming next, just hopeful that if they announce it before the launch of Chap. 2 the announcement includes what their suggested reading is.
 

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Reads everything pretty promising i have to say!
Also like the ammount of content that is already there. Just finished i think everything there is to do right now. Can't wait till 0.3 drops even when it will be mostly bugfixes.

Oh and it would be cool if we could buy some things for our own room further down the road, and new colthes for the girls are always nice to have. But i am really excited what you and the tem have in store already.
 

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I think you misunderstand me. I'm not concerned about who is coming next, just hopeful that if they announce it before the launch of Chap. 2 the announcement includes what their suggested reading is.
Right now we're focusing on the "reveal" hype. Like when you first see them on screen. We may change and do it this way, but no promises for any time soon.

Can't wait till 0.3 drops even when it will be mostly bugfixes.
And a lot of UI and event streamlining. As well as a ton of sandbox events and side events.

Oh and it would be cool if we could buy some things for our own room further down the road
In the works.

B-b-but... we're in the pool... it's not like we'll get any more wet :unsure:
Growing up I kept on getting yelled at to get out of the pool in case of lightning.

Edit: Oh to avoid getting drenched. I'll let the dev team know this.
 

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well the lightning will never strike the pool when there are buildings surrounding it
as they are bigger and more likely being hit
this is more in case when your at a lake or the sea except our lovely storm is near you
then you r more or less lucky in both ways or your even struck without reason (depends on her mood:eek::rolleyes::D:p:sneaky:)
 

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Right now we're focusing on the "reveal" hype. Like when you first see them on screen. We may change and do it this way, but no promises for any time soon.


And a lot of UI and event streamlining. As well as a ton of sandbox events and side events.


In the works.


Growing up I kept on getting yelled at to get out of the pool in case of lightning.

Edit: Oh to avoid getting drenched. I'll let the dev team know this.
If I might make a suggestion, I'm guessing you will add more girls as time goes on and also more plot. If you add plot then a girl, don't you then have to alter the plot when adding another girl after? Why not add all the girls you have in mind while the plot is only this far and then continue the plot once they're all settled in? Granted, there's always the chance you'll want to add even more girls after that which brings you back to square one... Or! You could continue the plot and add the other girls as the plot goes on? So you wouldn't have to rewrite the existing story to include the other girls? But then you miss out on character development with the new girls not having gone through the same stuff... ok, my mind is spinning...
 

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B-b-but... we're in the pool... it's not like we'll get any more wet :unsure:
It's not because you're getting wet, it's because a wet Nightcrawler smells like a wet dog.
In the comics he had fine blueish black fur and was often called "fuzzy elf" by Wolverine in spite of the later movie portrayals making him look like it was just blue skin.
 
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If I might make a suggestion, I'm guessing you will add more girls as time goes on and also more plot. If you add plot then a girl, don't you then have to alter the plot when adding another girl after? Why not add all the girls you have in mind while the plot is only this far and then continue the plot once they're all settled in? Granted, there's always the chance you'll want to add even more girls after that which brings you back to square one... Or! You could continue the plot and add the other girls as the plot goes on? So you wouldn't have to rewrite the existing story to include the other girls? But then you miss out on character development with the new girls not having gone through the same stuff... ok, my mind is spinning...
I'm going to take a stab at this question for you. It's been answered before, but this time I'm going to add some more context to everything so that hopefully future readers can see why the Devs are working in the manner they are.

Unfortunately for them to add a new girl it costs money because of the amount of art that is needed.

You have a body, a head, and limbs. Then you have their brows, eyes, and mouth. Add on to that any garment (each of which has at least two drawings). Currently there are ~250 images that go into making a single girl's standing actions. This is before then including their bedroom background, their bedroom items, and any gifts which are displayable which is an average of ~50 images.

Since they are already expanding on the poses of the existing girls to have more dynamic poses, this count is already going up. But we'll go with 250. Obviously some drawings are more expensive than others. A single set of eyes isn't going to cost the same price as the bedroom background. So we'll just go with an average and assume that the artist is dirt cheap - so the average is only $2.00 per image. (I am 99.99% certain this is way lower than actual.)

300 images @ $2.00 = $600.

And that doesn't include the sex poses. Adding in all of those adds several hundred more images. (Average is ~750). There are some which might be able to be recycled, so we'll be really generous and call it just 300.

So now we're at 600 images @ 2.00 = $1,200.

600 images per girl to add means that the artists are going to be swamped adding new girls. With only 30 days a month to do it, that's 20 images they would have to knock out a day on average just to get one girl done. The artists are good, but that kind of production level is a full time job at nowhere near a full time pay. And that assumes not going back and expanding anything for the existing girls on that time table.

Up until the patreon launch everything had been self-funded. Now that the Patreon is starting to collect money they can create a pipeline to get art done regularly, but that still takes time.

If they try to push the plot ahead too much they are going to need more rooms than we currently have, which means needing new backgrounds at minimum and that puts us back into the Time/Money loop discussed above. If they try to add all the girls art immediately, they again are in the Time/Money loop.

So instead the Devs are balancing what they can and adjusting based on how the Patreon performs. The better that does, the faster they can commission art and do both improvements for the current game as well as order art for future scenes (be it girls, backgrounds, etc).

When they can't work on pushing the story forward, they instead work on addressing things in the existing build. This includes taking the feedback from the players and tweaking things. This is why v0.3 is so focused on some of the system overhauls to help reduce the feelings of grindiness, expanding on some of the existing expressions, and otherwise working to fix more of the little things that didn't quite land right.

Hopefully this explanation helps better illustrate why the Dev team would be working in the manner they are as they try to budget their resources of time and money to produce the best quality product that they can.
 

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I'm going to take a stab at this question for you. It's been answered before, but this time I'm going to add some more context to everything so that hopefully future readers can see why the Devs are working in the manner they are.

Unfortunately for them to add a new girl it costs money because of the amount of art that is needed.

You have a body, a head, and limbs. Then you have their brows, eyes, and mouth. Add on to that any garment (each of which has at least two drawings). Currently there are ~250 images that go into making a single girl's standing actions. This is before then including their bedroom background, their bedroom items, and any gifts which are displayable which is an average of ~50 images.

Since they are already expanding on the poses of the existing girls to have more dynamic poses, this count is already going up. But we'll go with 250. Obviously some drawings are more expensive than others. A single set of eyes isn't going to cost the same price as the bedroom background. So we'll just go with an average and assume that the artist is dirt cheap - so the average is only $2.00 per image. (I am 99.99% certain this is way lower than actual.)

300 images @ $2.00 = $600.

And that doesn't include the sex poses. Adding in all of those adds several hundred more images. (Average is ~750). There are some which might be able to be recycled, so we'll be really generous and call it just 300.

So now we're at 600 images @ 2.00 = $1,200.

600 images per girl to add means that the artists are going to be swamped adding new girls. With only 30 days a month to do it, that's 20 images they would have to knock out a day on average just to get one girl done. The artists are good, but that kind of production level is a full time job at nowhere near a full time pay. And that assumes not going back and expanding anything for the existing girls on that time table.

Up until the patreon launch everything had been self-funded. Now that the Patreon is starting to collect money they can create a pipeline to get art done regularly, but that still takes time.

If they try to push the plot ahead too much they are going to need more rooms than we currently have, which means needing new backgrounds at minimum and that puts us back into the Time/Money loop discussed above. If they try to add all the girls art immediately, they again are in the Time/Money loop.

So instead the Devs are balancing what they can and adjusting based on how the Patreon performs. The better that does, the faster they can commission art and do both improvements for the current game as well as order art for future scenes (be it girls, backgrounds, etc).

When they can't work on pushing the story forward, they instead work on addressing things in the existing build. This includes taking the feedback from the players and tweaking things. This is why v0.3 is so focused on some of the system overhauls to help reduce the feelings of grindiness, expanding on some of the existing expressions, and otherwise working to fix more of the little things that didn't quite land right.

Hopefully this explanation helps better illustrate why the Dev team would be working in the manner they are as they try to budget their resources of time and money to produce the best quality product that they can.
That's cool and all, but like ... Where are the head pats tho ... (jokes aside the art is reaaaaally good) I was wondering, since I don't remember much about the source material, what made the team decide to go with each girl's kink is it their personality in the show or ?

Also, it may be just me, but i think that a different art for the kisses/make out would improve and break away more from oni's game,(which you already to a great job at don't take me wrong), like a side view of the kiss (and more tongue if make out) to just show a duck face from the gals a tad weird (and it would at least make the skin choice in the beginning have a minimal impact), if you don't want to show our character's face (which i wouldn't mind but whatever) just cut under the nose and give each girl a different body language. Just an idea i have but i understand it adds more art as well.
 
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That's cool and all, but like ... Where are the head pats tho ... (jokes aside the art is reaaaaally good) I was wondering, since I don't remember much about the source material, what made the team decide to go with each girl's kink is it their personality in the show or ?
Headpats have been requested and are probably coming soon. At least that's the impression that came from the Devs when its come up.

As for the other kinks. From what has been said before.

Rogue and the submission felt right. She wants somebody to make her feel safe and protected.
Laura's is just a heightened sense of her protective nature, taken to an extreme.
Jean has always been something of the "team mom", this just plays on that and takes it in the kinky direction.
 

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Headpats have been requested and are probably coming soon. At least that's the impression that came from the Devs when its come up.

As for the other kinks. From what has been said before.

Rogue and the submission felt right. She wants somebody to make her feel safe and protected.
Laura's is just a heightened sense of her protective nature, taken to an extreme.
Jean has always been something of the "team mom", this just plays on that and takes it in the kinky direction.
My bad for the edit of the previous post, the thought crossed my mind and i just wanted to give an opinion lol
 
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ok, my mind is spinning...
You and me both brother.

Hopefully this explanation helps better illustrate why the Dev team would be working in the manner they are as they try to budget their resources of time and money to produce the best quality product that they can.
This is the financial reason. Thank you for breaking it down Panda.

The story production reason is that we're following the comic books. Each girl is tied directly to the main plot.

Ya' guys gotta remove yourself from the mindset that we can just randomly plop a girl into the sandbox and leave it at that.

Heck, even Oni has time delays and special introductions for each girl. You don't meet them all in one day.


It's not because you're getting wet, it's because a wet Nightcrawler smells like a wet dog.
In the comics he had fine blueish black fur and was often called "fuzzy elf" by Wolverine in spite of the later movie portrayals making him look like it was just blue skin.
I don't remember which comic, but Kurt actually does get wet and end up smelling bad. The guy just smells bad in general because of the bamfing. Smells like brimestone.

But yeah anyone who grew up with Evolution knows Kurt calls himself fuzzy.

Where are the head pats tho
Headpats have been requested and are probably coming soon.
Accurate.

what made the team decide to go with each girl's kink is it their personality in the show or ?
First off. Comics, not show. Secondly. Yeah, it's based off of their personality. We find an interesting aspect of a character and go "How can we make this sexy?" It's that simple of a process.

Rogue and the submission felt right. She wants somebody to make her feel safe and protected.
Laura's is just a heightened sense of her protective nature, taken to an extreme.
Jean has always been something of the "team mom", this just plays on that and takes it in the kinky direction.
I'm running off fumes right now and kept reading that as "teen mom" and I got confused lol

But yeah for some examples-

Rogue has repeatedly mentioned that she dreamt of a simple life where she could settle down and be normal. Pretty much all versions of the character have her wanting to get rid of her powers so she can have that "normal." Null comes into her life and has the ability to provide that. So not only is it sexy, it's wholesome.

Laura outright stalked people she felt protective of in the comics. There were scenes of her spying on people through the security cameras of the X-Mansion and her abruptly popping around the corner to surprise Null was something she id to more than one person. Some people found that hot.

Yeah, Jean was always "the girl" who took care of the boys. We just "modernized" it by framing it as a college senior looking out for the freshman. Jean just takes a particular liking to Null and because of his struggles, she begins to feel protective of him which leads to her quirk.

Also, it may be just me, but i think that a different art for the kisses/make out would improve and break away more from oni's game
We have plans for kisses. :whistle:
 
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