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I'm loving the tit reactions when the girls grab them, change poses, change bras. It's little things that really make this game feel good. Great addition.
Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]
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this goes beyond my knowledge. It would be better to do apply the code then patch the game for android
TeeEight I read your review and I want to address some questions and points since it was so nice and detailed.
1. I'm sorry if I came off as abrasive. Sometimes I do get sassy with people.
2. We're not out of Beta. We're still EARLY beta. We did have a closed Alpha, which may be the cause of confusion. Everything is so polished because we were having it cook for awhile. However some bugs and features still feel like beta because it still is a beta.
3. We've been working on this for a little over a year. There's no doubts, sense of burnout or anything. We aren't reaching for the moon like some over eager people do, we're just very careful in our planning. Trust me we talk over potential features and inclusions to make sure we don't bite off more than we can chew.
4. Storm will be in chapter 2 and yes each chapter will come with 3 girls.
5. Rogue, and the other girls, will continue to get character development as time goes on. However this is just chapter 1 of a 6 chapter narrative. We're also tweaking her and the other girls' quirks.
6. Kurt will be getting more interactions and Colossus is going to be a sandbox NPC as well. There's story reasons for him not being in the sandbox for chapter 1 that I can't spoil. Hanging out with the bros is going to be optional content that you can do and every girl will have a fully platonic version of their route.
There's talk of making Juggy a bro in some capacity.
1. I'm sorry if I came off as abrasive. Sometimes I do get sassy with people.
2. We're not out of Beta. We're still EARLY beta. We did have a closed Alpha, which may be the cause of confusion. Everything is so polished because we were having it cook for awhile. However some bugs and features still feel like beta because it still is a beta.
3. We've been working on this for a little over a year. There's no doubts, sense of burnout or anything. We aren't reaching for the moon like some over eager people do, we're just very careful in our planning. Trust me we talk over potential features and inclusions to make sure we don't bite off more than we can chew.
4. Storm will be in chapter 2 and yes each chapter will come with 3 girls.
5. Rogue, and the other girls, will continue to get character development as time goes on. However this is just chapter 1 of a 6 chapter narrative. We're also tweaking her and the other girls' quirks.
6. Kurt will be getting more interactions and Colossus is going to be a sandbox NPC as well. There's story reasons for him not being in the sandbox for chapter 1 that I can't spoil. Hanging out with the bros is going to be optional content that you can do and every girl will have a fully platonic version of their route.
There's talk of making Juggy a bro in some capacity.
I have no idea. Someone made a cheat injector but I'm not sure if it's Android compatible.
I mentioned some renpy tricks to make things seem a little more lively and Ron decided to disregard that advice and instead use live 2D and commission more arm variants. No smoak and mirrors, actual content. Love the mad lad.
MidnightKing I liked your review too so I'll address some things
First off. If you don't have any interest in X-Men or Marvel this might not be the game for you. If you do have interest and want to see what the X-Men are like compared to our portrayal, we have suggested readings in the girls biographies.
Secondly,
The grind isn't going to be reduced for the reason that we're going to be adding more events and make the repeatable interactions have more variations and change in tone depending on progression.
In the end though if it's not for you it's not for you. I just really appreciate the long ones that are detailed and wanted to mention that your major gripes are being addressed and worked on.
First off. If you don't have any interest in X-Men or Marvel this might not be the game for you. If you do have interest and want to see what the X-Men are like compared to our portrayal, we have suggested readings in the girls biographies.
Secondly,
Aaaaaaaaaaalllll of this? I see the writers actively addressing it as I'm typing this out. Some things are going to feel like they're not fleshed out enough... and that's because they're not. We're still very much a work in progress. Genuinely every issue you've expressed in this quote is something we are actively discussing in the writer's room.
The grind isn't going to be reduced for the reason that we're going to be adding more events and make the repeatable interactions have more variations and change in tone depending on progression.
This part confused me as the first penetrative sex scene with every girl is entirely scripted. Because we wanted it to be intimate and emotional.
In the end though if it's not for you it's not for you. I just really appreciate the long ones that are detailed and wanted to mention that your major gripes are being addressed and worked on.
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As much as I love RL:E, I hope to GOD that the devs for this game don't take inspiration for Emma from that game.
Emma Frost, IMHO, should be dangerously seductive and jaw-droppingly beautiful because (at least in the comic) she uses her sex-appeal as another weapon.
For RL:E, it's pretty clear that someone had a "mommy" fetish, and that's where thought into her design ended.
Again: not dunking on RL:E. It's an amazing game!
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Hello! Glad my review was constructively received and I appreciate you taking in feedback. Sometimes I feel like a dick when I give a lower review score and then get reached out to about it, but I tried to be genuine. To address a couple things back at you:
I really don't have issue with the amount of it, just yeah like you said it needs that variety.
Regardless of my current feelings towards the game, it's cool to see you guys be active and passionate about it. I'll probably return to this down the line when things are more developed and take another crack at it.
Yeah I actually did appreciate that feature. It was nice for someone like me who's effectively clueless about X-Men. I say I don't have any particular interest in superheroes, but I don't have a disdain for them either. Going in I was essentially saying to myself "alright lets see if this game makes me care about the X-Men" and I don't think it did a bad job of doing so.
Glad to hear that. I'll say I went into this with no knowledge of what's being done behind the scenes so to speak, or even what future plans are and stuff like that. Haven't even read this thread. I'm mostly writing my review based on what's present. But you guys being aware of this stuff and discussing it gives me confidence in that yeah I have full belief it will change, and that's nice to know.
I really don't have issue with the amount of it, just yeah like you said it needs that variety.
Glad you pointed this out to me as well. So I played the game up until just after completing the third Rouge date. I'm guessing that penetrative scene happens further down the line than that? After that last date I was expecting some type of new event to maybe start playing after you get back to the school, but it didn't seem like there was anything immediate. The only thing I was seeing was that heart button to go into the lewd stuff, and being able to progressively do more things with her in that menu. I just assumed at that point all of the lewd stuff was going to be like that, so my fault there. I'll update my review to reflect that.
Regardless of my current feelings towards the game, it's cool to see you guys be active and passionate about it. I'll probably return to this down the line when things are more developed and take another crack at it.
That depends how we implement it... I'm not technical minded enough to know which is preferable so it depends on how Ron chooses to program it.
First of all, don't take my numbers literal, I spitball a lot. Now, that said, you like Kurt? Or you like Kurt? Because as Shiny said, Nightbrowler is gonna continue to be a thing, but if you are saying you wanna get nasty with the blue elf then you might wanna sit on that one.Oh? Who are the 10% not in the cards? I think I read Gwenpool might not be but honestly, I like Kurt... I don't want him to stop 'tutorializing' me
About which characters most likely not in the cards: For the base game, any character introduced after the year 2000, those would need to be a bonus/dlc thing. Besides that? Nobody in a happy marriage (like Sue Storm) or that don't swing Null's way.
You were holding that secret from me and I won't lie, it hurts... but I wanna.
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Oh man, thanks for taking the time to read the review and replying to it to boot!
And yeah, there was definitely some confusion. I didn't even know there was a closed beta? Or maybe that's the one I'm thinking of... I feel like there was another thread for his game. But anyway!
And yeah, I keep forgetting this is only Chapter 1... There's a lot of content or feels like a lot of content. Maybe the VN's I've played with multiple chapters out has thrown my speed out of whack.
I have to say though... 6 Chapters feel short... Although, that's just me and honestly that's... 18 girls? That's way more than a lot of harem games. Honestly, if Chapter 6 ending is 'open-ended' or at least provides a 'play forever' option, I'm probably gonna be happy.
Although, hindsight. That's probably a source of burnout, the devs chugging out 10+, 20+ chapters for their story. Better to end on a high note than a low note. Its great to know that there's more character development. I don't know what it is with this game but I love the characterization. It feels weirdly immersive.
Looking forward to those Kurt and Colossus interactions! Also, I sincerely doubt that I'd go platonic, I'd feel FOMO about missed content...
Although speaking of 18 girls, I would suggest a way to have multiple dates in a single day... Maybe more on the weekends, less on the weekdays? Or Group dates.
Ah... I can imagine it now, Null going broke. Nobody talks about the costs, logistics and accounting involved in a harem. It's gonna be fun is what I'm saying.
Pft. Nah, I meant Nightbrowler.
Honestly, the dude went to hell and back, the guy needs some more screen time and more dialogue beyond giving me tips and his... Not very useful information on the girls.
I'm kinda taking you literally again but man, I'm kinda hoping this game becomes moddable/modular now... Although I guess I'm picturing what is air-dropping girls into the game which I guess yeah, kinda dampens that idea. Girls are added organically into the game and I ain't complaining. Hell, I kinda like that Jean took a couple of days to actually finally be available, she's an X-Men, she's supposed to be busy doing X-Men-y stuff.
That's why you let the girls invite you sometimes, it does wonders to your finances.
About modding, the intention is for the game to be very easy to mod, me personally don't see the point in modding girls because they would most likely end up looking like a player 2 recolor of an existant girl and yeah the whole "air dropping girls" but hey, if someone wants to I see no reason to stop them.
We've actually had several conversations about that and in my personal opinion I think the characterization of Emma and Storm got reversed.
I have no idea what Oni was reading that made him go "Emma definitely cares about student/teacher ethics."
Closed alpha.
Chapters 2 through 5 are covering 30 years of comic books. Chapter 1 is purely world introduction.
Chapter 6 is post game. Stories that don't fit within the timeline and previews of potential sequels. It'll be a much purer sandbox.
So I'll also add there's 15 primary girls. We do plan on adding girls in retroactively because in certain chapters there are more than 3 characters that would make sense but we don't want to overwork ourselves.
There will be content for exclusively dating one person.
Or specific combinations of people.
There will be content for a Null who doesn't date anyone until chapter 6.
Going 100% harem is only one route of many.
There's also quirks which effect routes. Each girl reacts noticeably differently throughout chapter 1's main story and side content depending on if you activate their quirk.
And speaking of FOMO of missed girl content... Every girl will have 4 distinct different feels.
1. Platonic
2. Romance
3. Platonic + Quirk
4. Romantic + Quirk
Which to my knowledge is already in the game for all three girls, with plans for expansion.
We're basically a completionist's wet dream with plans of expanding. You should see the things we have planned for the Achievement Shop.
Yeah we're working on this. You can extend your actions during time periods by getting your stamina up.
We actually joke and talk about this in the discord quite often. There's a channel devoted entirely to fanmade text conversations between characters and most often group texts.
It's currently moddable. We're just waiting for chapter 1 to wrap up before we make a super big deal about it.
I believe if someone wants to mod in girls to be air dropped... that's doable. Someone already used Jean's assets to make her look a little like Emma. Take that and make an Emma mod.
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Yeah, my Relationship I side quest was completed by just studying, working and danger room-ing.
Jean, Laura and eventually Anna invited me.
I managed to save up money... Until i splurged on their favorite items.
So like, certain contain would be locked out if I go full 100% harem? Or does those combinations basically stack?
Combination Event: Rogue + Kitty
Combination Event 2: Rogue + Kitty + Laura
And so on?
Wet dream... Or Nightmare...Going 100% harem is only one route of many.
We're basically a completionist's wet dream with plans of expanding. You should see the things we have planned for the Achievement Shop.
It's both for me, my need to 100% a game is too strong... But god, I don't think I've ever actually replayed a game to visit other routes once i finished and got 100% on a game on a single run.
Tbh, that is really intriguing... I'm definitely playing it Romantic + Quirk. I don't expect the difference to be that big but I still like that there are Options
But yeah, from what I understand, you guys are reworking the Quirk system right? The current system is basically like a taste.
I also noticed the intro felt very different compared to I think version 3b? 3c? Maybe 3a... For some reason, i vaguely remember Storm being a bit antagonistic to Rogue...And Rogue coming off way more touchy than she does now. In the prologue. Or I'm just misremembering stuff.
Hah, is that the patreon only discord or the public discord?
Given all those scenes where they're chatting in the rooms. I like the idea of the characters having a group chat that Null doesn't have access too.
By the way, is the reason the phone broke because somehow Null... Nullified whatever makes it unbreakable. Somehow he got a cheap knockoff
Or Xavier was just exaggerating and/or back to option 2, has been slowly phasing out the actual indestructible part of the phone for a cheaper model
I 100% agree with this, but in fairness to Oni, Emma definitely does care about status and what other people think about her. So you could read that stuff in RL:E as not so much "Emma is dedicated to her role as an educator of young mutants" as "Emma doesn't want the other actual X-Men to talk shit about her for messing around with/catching feelings for a student, and she expresses it in terms of student/teacher ethics in order to retain plausible deniability."
Unless Shiny is keeping more secret, there is no such thing as a patreon only discord... and even if there is, he is talking about the one linked in the game.
Not really of any opinion regarding the rest of the comment, but Emma is dedicated to the role of educator of young mutants, the woman loves being a teacher and it's one of the reasons she leaves the Hellfire Club to join the school.
You'll be able to romance everyone and combination events will still trigger, however tonally the story will be different.
Say down the line, if she were added, you're in a relationship with Kitty and if Rachel or Magik, two girls she had things for, the context and reactions would be different if you're dating JUST Kitty or if you're dating the entire cast to that point.
Yeah we're making this game for replay ability. The intro has like 10 variations taking your chosen scholarship, character customization, and dialogue choices.
Like the tone of certain conversations is outright different depending on your previous answer.
I should have Ron put a page about that because people are oddly against having more than one save.
Dude it's big.
Jean can go from a college girl with anxiety to a twitchy neurotic obsessed with you being her little brother.
Rogue goes from determined if a tad insecure to deferring most of her life choices to you.
Laura either learns to respect boundaries... or outright annihilates them.
It bleeds into sandbox randomness, conversations between the girls, and the main plot.
So basically every scene in the game has minor to major differences depending on if the girls had their quirks encouraged or not, whether you stick to one of the three archetypes, or if you were random with your dialogue choices.
If I do the math...
That would mean every scene that includes all three girls would have... 81? potential variations?
Although if we're counting significant differences then it's more like... 9? It's 2AM for me right now I'm gonna be off by a number or two.
We're not reworking it drastically.
It currently a binary. With our plans it has more like three segments.
1. Bedroom
2. Narrative
3. Interactions
An example: So 1. Jean has a big sister complex and will 2. dom you in the bedroom and 3. try to control your life choices. The new rework will allow you to choose which parts of the quirk you want activated. We're putting in the effort because we want it to feel like you're setting boundaries... like actual relationship building.
Yeah we tweak dialogue here and there based on feedback.
It's public. You can get access to it in the game's main menu.
Oh yeah. There's a lot of fun speculation on what's going on. It started as just the first three but now the list is like 20 girls long, including ones that are confirmed to not show up until a sequel or a very special DLC at the end of chapter 6.
This has been hotly debated since the first beta release and I'm genuinely not permitted to give you the answer.