Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

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In no particular order:

Spyke after Evolution? Nothing because Spyke was a character made for evolution who never got a comic counterpart per se, closest thing would be Marrow, a character with the same powerset that pre-dates Spyke for more than a decade.

Nightbrowler and Brolossus is something that will happen, with Brolverine and Cybrops being another high possibilities, Gambit and Quicksilver specifically tho? Way more tricky, although Gambit has a high chance to make it into the game in a future chapter... like, "way into the future" chapter.

I would commit acts that go against the Geneva Convention to have Juggernaut as a bro at some point.

I'm sure Logan would be an instant drinking buddy as soon as he discovers that Null can turn off Logan's "healing factor" so that he can finally get drunk.

 

[Knight]

I'm sure Logan would be an instant drinking buddy as soon as he discovers that Null can turn off Logan's "healing factor" so that he can finally get drunk.

Logan can get drunk it just takes a lethal amount (to a human) and it doesn't last long. Drunkenness is partial due to a lack of water in the body, it's similar to dehydration in terms of how it affects the body; it's why seltzer water and smoothies are used to treat hangovers and reduce the effects of alcohol.

Theoretically if he consumed a large amount of booze and no water he could get the full effect but his healing factor is outright on par with magic since he can recover whole organs in minutes without taking in any food to generate the mass so it's whatever the writer decides.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

It probably wouldn't be worth it for Logan if he had to sit there holding Null's hand the whole time. Now, if Null gets an upgrade that allows his power to cover an entire room, I can some possibilities.

Logan: You've got detention. For detention, you must sit silently at your desk and write a ten-page paper about what you did.
Null: I don't know what I did.
Logan: Sucks for you, Bub. We're going to do this everyday until you figure it out. Now sit down and shut up. I'm going to be at my desk with this bottle.

45 minutes later

Logan: Did I . . . did I ever tell you about how I met Captain America during World War II?
Null: No, sir.
Logan: I said no talking. That's it. You've got detention!

 

[Knight]

It probably wouldn't be worth it for Logan if he had to sit there holding Null's hand the whole time. Now, if Null gets an upgrade that allows his power to cover an entire room, I can some possibilities.

Logan: You've got detention. For detention, you must sit silently at your desk and write a ten-page paper about what you did.
Null: I don't know what I did.
Logan: Sucks for you, Bub. We're going to do this everyday until you figure it out. Now sit down and shut up. I'm going to be at my desk with this bottle.

45 minutes later

Logan: Did I . . . did I ever tell you about how I met Captain America during World War II?
Null: No, sir.
Logan: I said no talking. That's it. You've got detention!

That would fun moment for this game, one of the responses should be to write a report on all the ways he fucked his daughter then read it out loud.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

I doubt Logan would be shocked. Given his sense of smell, he probably smells Null all over and in his daughter all the time. It might prompt the father-boyfriend talk, though, which would awkward as hell for the both of them.

Logan: I suppose this is where I'm supposed to threaten you with what I'll do to you if you don't treat her right, but Laura can take care of herself. If you do her wrong, she'll probably start with castrating you and go from there. But, you're kind of forcing my hand here, Bub, so let me tell you all the things I'll do to you when she's done . . . .

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I doubt Logan would be shocked. Given his sense of smell, he probably smells Null all over and in his daughter all the time. It might prompt the father-boyfriend talk, though, which would awkward as hell for the both of them.

Logan and X-23 aren't that close yet. He hasn't had the character development he got with Kitty and Jubilee yet so right now he just sees her as another survivor of the weapon X program.

We want the whole father/daughter transition to definitely be something Null can witness.

 

[Crichton]

Logan and X-23 aren't that close yet. He hasn't had the character development he got with Kitty and Jubilee yet so right now he just sees her as another survivor of the weapon X program.

We want the whole father/daughter transition to definitely be something Null can witness.

"She called me Daddy first"

 

[drifter139]

"She called me Daddy first"

and just like that, a wholesome moment was ruined

 

[Dazzier31]

It probably wouldn't be worth it for Logan if he had to sit there holding Null's hand the whole time. Now, if Null gets an upgrade that allows his power to cover an entire room, I can some possibilities.

Note that, thanks to Jean's training, his nullification is active in a 2-feet radius, a couple more seasons working on expanding the field rather than turning it off and voila, Logan is drunk just by sitting next to him.

 

[Zanmori]

Oh, this game seems great. I really like Oni's Rogue-Like and this one has a really cool flair. But... As an ESL, I have to say that all the poetic license used to represent accents in this game make it a bit hard to read sometimes.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

"She called me Daddy first"

Exactly.

and just like that, a wholesome moment was ruined

It was meant to be.

Note that, thanks to Jean's training, his nullification is active in a 2-feet radius, a couple more seasons working on expanding the field rather than turning it off and voila, Logan is drunk just by sitting next to him.

Can't wait until some madman tries to amplify that power to cover the entire globe or something.

Note, this is just a random villain idea I pulled out of my ass. This is not a spoiler for the game. Made you look.

Oh, this game seems great. I really like Oni's Rogue-Like and this one has a really cool flair. But... As an ESL, I have to say that all the poetic license used to represent accents in this game make it a bit hard to read sometimes.

As a fellow ESL I'm surprised I didn't consider this.

I grew up with the X-Men cartoons in English so I guess it never struck me as odd.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

We have a channel devoted entirely to fan submissions.

This probably fits into the "something beyond our control" category, but I tried joining the Discord through the game. First I got an age-verification screen, but before I could even enter my birthday, I had a "there has been a problem" screen. It then put me through a name screen, "I'm not a bot" screen, said it needed a verification, asked for my phone number, sent me a text, entered the verification, asked for a password, said it needed to confirm my e-mail, then sent me to a blank screen with no where to enter my e-mail. I closed it, tried again, and the process repeated. I then decided it wasn't worth it and "I don't want to be on Discord anyway."

Anyway, my idea has evolved into a more general Nightbrowler thing:

"I'm bored. Let's prank someone. I'll pay you $50 to . . .
Bampf over to the Mutiefan site and change everyone's profile.
Option B
Option C

Theoretically if he consumed a large amount of booze and no water he could get the full effect but his healing factor is outright on par with magic since he can recover whole organs in minutes without taking in any food to generate the mass so it's whatever the writer decides.

In some ways, it's a good thing comic book logic isn't real logic. It has been established that adamantium is extremely toxic, and if it wasn't for his healing factor, it would kill Wolverine. In fact, his healing factor would be much greater without his skeleton since he is using a significant part of it just to keep that toxicity in check. By logic logic, Null's power would be very bad for Wolverine and X-23, and spending the night with the latter might kill her. It would be ironic if the thing that allowed Null to have a relationship with Rogue is also what means he could never have a relationship with Laura, but I would prefer to have my cake and eat it too.

Note that, thanks to Jean's training, his nullification is active in a 2-feet radius, a couple more seasons working on expanding the field rather than turning it off and voila, Logan is drunk just by sitting next to him.

It would still be annoying. They are sitting at a bar together. Each time one of them leaned over to talk to someone on their other side, the healing factor kicks in and Logan's sober. One of them needs to use the restroom. Sober. Put a song on the jukebox, sober. Now that I'm thinking of it, I'm imagining Logan's nickname for Null being "Buzzkill."

Oh, this game seems great. I really like Oni's Rogue-Like and this one has a really cool flair. But... As an ESL, I have to say that all the poetic license used to represent accents in this game make it a bit hard to read sometimes.

You do have my sympathies, but I am the opposite. I really like seeing accent written out in literature, something that has fallen into disfavor over the last few decades. Some authors, such as Steinbeck were really masters of capturing accents in writing. Also, kudos for remembering not to use the accent in texts and other written communications, except for Kurt and "zee" which was properly lampshaded.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

Can't wait until some madman tries to amplify that power to cover the entire globe or something.

Note, this is just a random villain idea I pulled out of my ass. This is not a spoiler for the game. Made you look.

Spoiler: Stupid Speculation

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On the subject of spoilers, I'll ask for a small one. When I was a kid reading X-Men comics, there were plenty of times Wolverine and Magneto interacted, and Magneto didn't do anything to Logan's skeleton. Even as a kid, I wondered about it. The conclusion I drew back then was that adamantium was a mu material that wasn't subject to electro-magnetism. Then some author must have wondered the same thing, and it basically became a meme. So the tiny spoiler I want is: have you guys given any thought to what extent Magneto can manipulate adamantium within your universe?

 

[Maddeninggg]

By logic logic, Null's power would be very bad for Wolverine and X-23, and spending the night with the latter might kill her. It would be ironic if the thing that allowed Null to have a relationship with Rogue is also what means he could never have a relationship with Laura, but I would prefer to have my cake and eat it too.

Heavy metal poisoning is a slow process so a single night being completely nullified wouldn't kill her or Logan. Not to mention only Laura's claws are metal, not her entire skeleton like Logan. A few minutes with their healing factor reactivated would quickly clear any issues.

 

[drifter139]

Heavy metal poisoning is a slow process so a single night being completely nullified wouldn't kill her or Logan. Not to mention only Laura's claws are metal, not her entire skeleton like Logan. A few minutes with their healing factor reactivated would quickly clear any issues.

unless their healing factors work like Deadpool's

 

[Augustus Commodus]

Heavy metal poisoning is a slow process so a single night being completely nullified wouldn't kill her or Logan. Not to mention only Laura's claws are metal, not her entire skeleton like Logan. A few minutes with their healing factor reactivated would quickly clear any issues.

Depends on the substance and the dosage. Arsenic poisoning can kill in less than a day, and toxic dosages are usually expressed in micrograms, not kilograms. Given the extremely toxic nature described for adamantium and that it takes the majority of Logan's healing factor to counter it, we should probably compare it with the worst examples.

I suppose it would be a way to help differentiate the characters. Null and Laura spend their first night together. Laura wakes up feeling very ill. After an examination, they figure it out. While other characters prefer staying after a date, Laura would be, "That was fun, but you know I can't stick around/you better get back to your room." It would also add an extra dimension to how much she's sacrificing after the mall incident.

It would be a little sad. I imagine Laura would either be the best cuddler or the type to kick you to the edge of the bed so she can have her space. I haven't decided which, yet. Either way, Laura cuddles would be special, and I don't want to disincentive them.

unless their healing factors work like Deadpool's

That too.

Edit: In keeping with having my cake and eating it too and my Null's powers are wish based speculation above, we can have Laura decide to spend the night despite the fact that it makes her feel ill, and as he's drifting off to sleep, Null wishes his powers didn't make her sick and problem solved. Best of both worlds.

 

[Maddeninggg]

Depends on the substance and the dosage. Arsenic poisoning can kill in less than a day, and toxic dosages are usually expressed in micrograms, not kilograms. Given the extremely toxic nature described for adamantium and that it takes the majority of Logan's healing factor to counter it, we should probably compare it with the worst examples.

For Logan it might be different because it's his entire skeleton, but Laura only has the claws so I really doubt she'd get so terribly ill in just a few hours. Also not to mention that near the end of chapter 1 Null can turn his nullification on or off at will.

 

[BigAlzBub]

I'm not sure I get why Adamantium is toxic. The stuff is supposed to be virtually indestructible, where as the toxicity would have to be tiny amounts (single atoms probably) bonding with (probably) blood to make some new chemical which has deleterious effects, but given that it is (virtually) indestructible single atoms of it can't be breaking loose or it wouldn't have this property. I suppose it could be acting as a catalyst to form something really nasty, or it might give off some form of extremely localised radiation which is super harmful, but that would imply that Adamantium has a half-life (although granted it could be extremely long and still dangerous, like some of the radioactive waste products from Fission)

 

[Augustus Commodus]

:shrug: It still puts Laura in the kilograms category even if that is better than the dozens of kilograms Logan is carrying around. It's hard to have informed speculation about the impact a fictional substance would have on one's metabolic functions. Still, turning off his power would pose the dilemma of not being able to cuddle with both Laura and Anna Marie at the same time. Either way, I'm probably over thinking it, and if I realize I'm overthinking it, it probably means I entered "I should have just shut up and gone to bed" territory hours ago.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

I'm not sure I get why Adamantium is toxic. The stuff is supposed to be virtually indestructible, where as the toxicity would have to be tiny amounts (single atoms probably) bonding with (probably) blood to make some new chemical which has deleterious effects, but given that it is (virtually) indestructible single atoms of it can't be breaking loose or it wouldn't have this property. I suppose it could be acting as a catalyst to form something really nasty, or it might give off some form of extremely localised radiation which is super harmful, but that would imply that Adamantium has a half-life (although granted it could be extremely long and still dangerous, like some of the radioactive waste products from Fission)

Depends on the substance. With arsenic, for example, it is toxic because chemically it acts the same as phosphorus, but it forms weaker bonds. Your body uses it like it would phosphorus to construct different proteins, etc. but those proteins break and don't work properly, messing things up. Different heavy metals are toxic for different reasons, so it kind of lazy to lump them all together as "heavy metal poisoning."

I, however, agree with you. Given the way adamantium was described, it should be non-reactive and thus non-toxic. I did think it was stupid when the whole adamantium toxicity was introduced, but it's canon now.