Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[cannavaro99]

easy question: can we get an XL plug? (and some funny dialogue with that one?)

 

[Clincher]

Okay, just to be clear. I don't think that ALL the art in the game is the result of AI work, definitely not. However, this NEW art of Rogue in this pose looks like it's been given the AI treatment. “Enhancement”, upscaling, whatever you want to call it. Specifically the body - chest, stomach, and everything below.
In retrospect, yes, perhaps I should have worded my thought with these amendments right away.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

easy question: can we get an XL plug? (and some funny dialogue with that one?)

I'll pass it onto the devs. It coule be amusing.

Okay, just to be clear. I don't think that ALL the art in the game is the result of AI work, definitely not. However, this NEW art of Rogue in this pose looks like it's been given the AI treatment. “Enhancement”, upscaling, whatever you want to call it. Specifically the body - chest, stomach, and everything below.
In retrospect, yes, perhaps I should have worded my thought with these amendments right away.

I don't know what to tell you my dude. We receive in-progress sketches throughout the creation process and due to it being a paper doll it has so many pieces. An AI can't be responsible for its creation. They're not advanced enough.

While I risk coming off as more slighted than I actually am, I think it is quite demeaning to accuse an artist of using AI when they improved upon a design and gave it more detail aka "upscale". It's an insult to their skill and character.

You should probably self-analyze and think about what you consider AI art because you're seeing it in places where it doesn't exist.

 

[LowLevelLesser]

I don't know what to tell you my dude. We receive in-progress sketches throughout the creation process and due to it being a paper doll it has so many pieces. An AI can't be responsible for its creation. They're not advanced enough.

While I risk coming off as more slighted than I actually am, I think it is quite demeaning to accuse an artist of using AI when they improved upon a design and gave it more detail aka "upscale". It's an insult to their skill and character.

You should probably self-analyze and think about what you consider AI art because you're seeing it in places where it doesn't exist.

Admittedly I've tried using AI to enhance my own art (with mixed results), but I think many people see anything that looks airbrushed or has a digital oil painting look to it as being made with everyone's favorite art AI algorithm, Stable Diffusion.

I honestly feel bad for the folks running all the online art forums because they've been having a hell of a time with people uploading AI work and claiming it as their own, especially earlier on in this big AI boom.

 

[Clincher]

I don't know what to tell you my dude. We receive in-progress sketches throughout the creation process and due to it being a paper doll it has so many pieces. An AI can't be responsible for its creation. They're not advanced enough.

It is absolutely possible for an artist to run parts of their work through AI tools to "enhance" the quality and detail. By presenting my argument as if I believe that art was entirely the result of AI, you distort my argument and cast me in a more dishonest light.

While I risk coming off as more slighted than I actually am, I think it is quite demeaning to accuse an artist of using AI when they improved upon a design and gave it more detail aka "upscale". It's an insult to their skill and character.

You should probably self-analyze and think about what you consider AI art because you're seeing it in places where it doesn't exist.

You are slighted. And while I understand there it coming from, this makes you kinda not see my question more clearly and therefore not answer very convincingly.

I have recently had to deal with AI art quite a lot (so, so many digital boobs ffs). You involuntarily begin to recognize patterns, skin shine, body proportions, symmetry in certain places where it usually does not exist. I'm absolutely sure that the game's art is entirely due to the artist honest work, but so far this Rogue art looks like the artist decided to try using AI tools to improve it. Of course I'm not sure, this is just an observation. It will become clearer as we see further progress, i guess. Will be first to admit I was wrong, no shame in that.

 

[sleepingkirby]

Just a general announcement. My cheat has been updated to include removal of statuses via Hum-Hum. While this won't fix/overcome any bugs via cross version saves and the new friendship system, it should help ease the gameplay for those stuck in that situation.

 

[mahsta]

great game.

 

[jakesco]

If I remember correctly chapter 2 has storm already confirmed which leaves 3 more girls for that chapter. who would be your guys' ideal three? what are your guesses?
My ideal would be:
Kitty
Wanda
Magik

My guesses would be:
Kitty
Jubilee
Polaris

 

[Armstrong]

If I remember correctly chapter 2 has storm already confirmed which leaves 3 more girls for that chapter. who would be your guys' ideal three? what are your guesses?
My ideal would be:
Kitty
Wanda
Magik

My guesses would be:
Kitty
Jubilee
Polaris

Kitty. That's all I need in this world.

 

[armond]

If I remember correctly chapter 2 has storm already confirmed which leaves 3 more girls for that chapter. who would be your guys' ideal three? what are your guesses?
My ideal would be:
Kitty
Wanda
Magik

My guesses would be:
Kitty
Jubilee
Polaris

Kitty
Emma
Wanda
Would be potentially fun

 

[Jamers]

So, I'm running into several occurances at the end of chapter 1 when in the hot and heavy stuff with the girls that the selections I choose aren't the ones that the game responds to. Lets say I ask them to make out and they respond with That's not going anywhere close to my ass.... and that gets counted as a bad choice and the penalties are applied. very frustrating sometimes when trying to balance the girls out and suddenly they start to get up and walk out on you after giving you a negative and then they are miffed at you.

 

[armion82]

If I remember correctly chapter 2 has storm already confirmed which leaves 3 more girls for that chapter. who would be your guys' ideal three? what are your guesses?
My ideal would be:
Kitty
Wanda
Magik

My guesses would be:
Kitty
Jubilee
Polaris

Wait,since when chapter 2 will have 4 girls?
Did I miss the addition of 1 to the promised 3 girls?

 

[King_In_Yellow]

Wait,since when chapter 2 will have 4 girls?
Did I miss the addition of 1 to the promised 3 girls?

I don't think as far as I know there will be three girls per chapter
in the next chapter Ororo will be added leaving the other two girls who are added in doubt as to who will be

 

[armion82]

I don't think as far as I know there will be three girls per chapter
in the next chapter Ororo will be added leaving the other two girls who are added in doubt as to who will be

Well my favorites are Storm,Emma and Kitty.

 

[King_In_Yellow]

Well my favorites are Storm,Emma and Kitty.

My favorites are Kitty, X-23, Rogue and Wolfsbane
well, X-23 and Rogue are already in the game, just wait for Kitty and Wolfsbane
will be added

 

[Clobbertime]

Apparently that was a bit of an overreaction on the part of the Devs when some... people wanted it to be a rape simulator instead of a dating sim. They basically did it to spite that lot. As Shiny says they will calm it down at some point, probably before going on to Chapter 2.

"I pity the fool that would try to rape X-23!" -Mr T
After all, her claws and fighting skills are separate from her mutant power.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

It is absolutely possible for an artist to run parts of their work through AI tools to "enhance" the quality and detail.

Yes, but are the tools able to consistent enough for all the bits and pieces to not look out of place?

By presenting my argument as if I believe that art was entirely the result of AI, you distort my argument and cast me in a more dishonest light.

Which was not my intention, I apologize.

Will be first to admit I was wrong, no shame in that.

I'll admit I was wrong too as I saw malice where there was none similar to you seeing AI art where there was none.

Ron works closely with the artists. If there was AI he would know.

Wait,since when chapter 2 will have 4 girls?
Did I miss the addition of 1 to the promised 3 girls?

I don't think as far as I know there will be three girls per chapter
in the next chapter Ororo will be added leaving the other two girls who are added in doubt as to who will be

There will be 3 girls per chapter. This is to save our sanity and to ensure updates don't take a year to release. Girls we had to cut but are important to the plot will probably be represented by a silhouette like Cecilia is currently.

These girls, and possibly Cecilia, will have their own art when made romancable. However, we're not 100% sure when. It'd be a point where it wouldn't be considered a work overload.

My personal guess, not an official statement from the team, would be during the chapter 6 updates as that's when we'll be adding things we couldn't fit the first go around.

Some people will be disappointed in who we choose to cut but I give my word that as long as the spark of creativity is there, we will add them to the game eventually.

faggots

Hey, that's our word.

Jokes aside, as a card-carrying member of the dick-suckers association I ask you not to use slurs against the pearl clutchers. Gives them more importance than they deserve.

"I pity the fool that would try to rape X-23!" -Mr T
After all, her claws and fighting skills are separate from her mutant power.

There is a game that recently came out where you essentially get to do that.

It's... not for me that much I'll tell you.

 

[Buttholder]

Apparently that was a bit of an overreaction on the part of the Devs when some... people wanted it to be a rape simulator instead of a dating sim. They basically did it to spite that lot. As Shiny says they will calm it down at some point, probably before going on to Chapter 2.

Not exactly an overreaction, but we had (and occasionally still get) an influx of people who basically said 'hey, love the game, great stuff, but what if I want to roleplay as a explicit rapist abuser, maybe giving the odd corrective beating, when can I expect that to be implemented?' And when they were told it's not that kind of game and it's not going to happen, they started playing games of 'okay, but what if we do it with a nod and a wink, what if it's made clear they actually love it, what if my girlfriend who lives in Canada asks', like they were trying to use a semantic Konami Code, and at no point were they taking 'no' for an answer. And on the off-chance they eventually did, they'd storm off calling us a bunch of fedora-wearing beta cucks, or whatever the preferred insult of the day is. Basically, they wanted this art, these characters and this writing but not in this game and, sadly for them, it's kind of a package deal.

It's great if that's what you're into, but there's literally dozens of other games that cater to you. We love getting constructive feedback and suggestions, but demands for sweeping changes that are the exact opposite of what we're doing? Not so much.

 

[RubyO]

Oh yes, artists certainly do try to put meaning into things, and sometimes they do it even unintentionally (an unconscious bias that they put in without explicitly meaning to), but it seems to me that most people don't actually get what the artist intended unless it was blatantly obvious, seeing instead their own interpretation based on their own biases.

In total fairness to myself, the dev in the thread did say they were gay

 

[armion82]

Yes, but are the tools able to consistent enough for all the bits and pieces to not look out of place?


Which was not my intention, I apologize.


I'll admit I was wrong too as I saw malice where there was none similar to you seeing AI art where there was none.

Ron works closely with the artists. If there was AI he would know.



There will be 3 girls per chapter. This is to save our sanity and to ensure updates don't take a year to release. Girls we had to cut but are important to the plot will probably be represented by a silhouette like Cecilia is currently.

These girls, and eventually Cecilia, will have their own art. However, we're not 100% sure when. It'd be a point where it wouldn't be considered a work overload.

My personal guess, not an official statement from the team, would be during the chapter 6 updates as that's when we'll be adding things we couldn't fit the first go around.

Some people will be disappointed in who we choose to cut but I give my word that as long as the spark of creativity is there, we will add them to the game eventually.


Hey, that's our word.

Jokes aside, as a card-carrying member of the dick-suckers association I ask you not to use slurs against the pearl clutchers. Gives them more importance than they deserve.


There is a game that recently came out where you essentially get to do that.

It's... not for me that much I'll tell you.

As long as you don't cut essentials characters like Emma and Kitty no problem.

My favorites are Kitty, X-23, Rogue and Wolfsbane
well, X-23 and Rogue are already in the game, just wait for Kitty and Wolfsbane
will be added
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That was my 3 favorites not in the game yet.
Of course I will like some more characters like
Sage,Polaris,Jubilee,Magik,Psylocke,Dazzler,Ruby,Rachel,Megan and Hope Summers