Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

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Conrad-N7

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ShinyBoots1993 said:
I don't remember what issue it was but they actually make a joke about this. It's not funny. Since acknowledging a problem isn't the same as fixing the problem.


Until they brought back all the old ones and now we got like 5 human Lanterns and a squirrel.


Naruto and One Piece would like to have a word with you.


It's on the to-do list.


We're trying. Though there's only so much we can do with live 2D.



This being an example of it being hard to work with lol


We're working on this.
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yall doing a good job. This isnt a full 1.0 chapter yet so such things can still be fixed on the way... however close it is possible
 
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Niki Boxcer said:
Mac version crashes on startup

Code: 
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpy", line 57, in <module>
Exception: Could not load Live2D. b'/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/MacOS/libLive2DCubismCore.dylib' was not found.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpyc", line 57, in script
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
    img = renpy.python.py_eval_bytecode(self.code.bytecode)
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpy", line 57, in <module>
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 591, in __init__
    common = self.common
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 542, in common
    return self.create_common()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 530, in create_common
    rv = Live2DCommon(self.filename, self.default_fade)
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 188, in __init__
    init()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 95, in init
    onetime_init()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 68, in onetime_init
    raise Exception("Could not load Live2D. {} was not found.".format(dll))
Exception: Could not load Live2D. b'/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/MacOS/libLive2DCubismCore.dylib' was not found.

macOS-10.14.6-x86_64-i386-64bit x86_64
Ren'Py 8.3.0.24022002+unofficial
The Null Hypothesis 0.4b
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Am I reading that right? Are you still on Mojave?
I'm not an expert, but the last time I saw this, the error message was misleading/wrong. It turns out that the libLive2DCubismCore.dylib included was built for newer mac versions or something like that.
 
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One suggestion: have the 'asking for consent' dialogue when selecting any of the sex options being asked once, and after they agree once it's assumed they are comfortable with it.

Each time we re-select a bunch of options and keep asking about it, it breaks the flow - like, we've done it 5 times over the last few days, do we still need to confirm it's fine to do cunnilingus, grabbing their tits or sucking on some nips? Once they have enough trust and agree once, dispose of the dialogue for any options they're fine with.

If you rework the system to have them refuse every once in awhile I can see asking them about it as 'are you in the mood for it now?' - but they never refuse after doing it once, so get rid of that annoyance.
 
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Terry Zimmerman said:
I disagree with almost everything you said. A lot of the best stories about this characters came (in my opinion) 60/70/80 years after their creation by a variate of different people. You want goofy batman? You got it! theres Adam Wests batman. You want dark batman? Watch the Nolan or Snyder movies. What about Dragon Ball? Can I jump straight into Z? or Super? Sure as hell I did, didnt watch a single original dragon ball episode.
edit: Maybe we should stay on topic. Im gonna shut up now.
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I mean sure, maybe. but in manga that same thing happens and instead of being the corpse of a character being played with by a corporation, it's a bunch of actual human beings doing the interpretations, codifying the genre and twisting it around. And even in comics, you wanna have evil superman, you can, jut don't call him superman, call em homelander or omniman, you wanna have gay superman, same thing, not that any of this bothers me really I just find it funny when people get so mad about it. it's just incredibly difficult to make it as an artist if you don't piggyback off already existing IPs.
 
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Guys I've a problem, in winter chapter I got a messege from Rogue and she asked if I can train with her in DR, then I came there to train with her to progress through her story and when she asked me how I'm doing mentally the further conversation frozen, I can't even skip it, any tips about how to solve it??
 
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Is it possible to make Jean and Rogue be friends? 20 days calling them both - nothing. 10 days to mall - nothing
 
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biggiemac

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why are people so defensive? Have you even played the other games? Any sane person would be able to see there are clearly some similarities here...the fact that people became ultra-defensive when all I did was to just lay out some facts just speaks for itself.

It is indisputable that there are similarities, period. It is also undisputable that there are controversies or discussions about this, period. Who's right and who's wrong, I don't know. I don't have the facts, so I won't speculate.

What I do know is that this is a really great game, and I would love for the developers to work out any differences so that the development of this game can continue.
 
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Nast33 said:
One suggestion: have the 'asking for consent' dialogue when selecting any of the sex options being asked once, and after they agree once it's assumed they are comfortable with it.

Each time we re-select a bunch of options and keep asking about it, it breaks the flow - like, we've done it 5 times over the last few days, do we still need to confirm it's fine to do cunnilingus, grabbing their tits or sucking on some nips? Once they have enough trust and agree once, dispose of the dialogue for any options they're fine with.

If you rework the system to have them refuse every once in awhile I can see asking them about it as 'are you in the mood for it now?' - but they never refuse after doing it once, so get rid of that annoyance.
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they said they are gonna work on it
 
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biggiemac said:
why are people so defensive? Have you even played the other games? Any sane person would be able to see there are clearly some similarities here...the fact that people became ultra-defensive when all I did was to just lay out some facts just speaks for itself.

It is indisputable that there are similarities, period. It is also undisputable that there are controversies or discussions about this, period. Who's right and who's wrong, I don't know. I don't have the facts, so I won't speculate.

What I do know is that this is a really great game, and I would love for the developers to work out any differences so that the development of this game can continue.
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I think the issue with your comment was the word "plagiarised", it has such a negative connotation that it's hard for people to take the rest of the comment in good faith.

And I don't know where you got the idea that there were differences between the developers that were stopping the game but rest assured, they are doing fine and working on it day in and day out.
 
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Ter2245

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Guys help me out. Game in Crashing to the desktop every time I start it and load the save ... I started whole new game because of it and after a while it started again ... no idea what I should do. I can load the game but it crash almost instantly ... it started after sentinel attack in the story and after that I can not even stay in menu. When I open ingame menu after start of free roam game just crash every time I do anything. It did even before but not this frequently ....
 
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Ter2245 said:
Guys help me out. Game in Crashing to the desktop every time I start it and load the save ... I started whole new game because of it and after a while it started again ... no idea what I should do. I can load the game but it crash almost instantly ... it started after sentinel attack in the story and after that I can not even stay in menu. When I open ingame menu after start of free roam game just crash every time I do anything. It did even before but not this frequently ....
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Did the game create logs? Traceback.txt or log.txt? What OS and what version of the OS are you on? Does the OS's logs say anything? What version of the game are you on?
When asking for help, please try to provide as much specific information as possible as. Since we are not sitting next to you, this is like writing a letter to someone across the planet that your car is making a noise and asking them to help you. Without information, we wouldn't even know if your car is a construction dump truck or a F1 racing car.
 
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biggiemac said:
why are people so defensive? Have you even played the other games? Any sane person would be able to see there are clearly some similarities here...the fact that people became ultra-defensive when all I did was to just lay out some facts just speaks for itself.

It is indisputable that there are similarities, period. It is also undisputable that there are controversies or discussions about this, period. Who's right and who's wrong, I don't know. I don't have the facts, so I won't speculate.

What I do know is that this is a really great game, and I would love for the developers to work out any differences so that the development of this game can continue.
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You didn't present any facts, you presented at most your thoughts and called them facts

because let's be serious

Plagiarism of art? - In which supposed place? After all, it only takes a glance to see that the artistic style is completely different
Plagiarism of game mechanics? - I'll let you in on a secret, it's pretty standard for a dating sim game
Plagiarism of the story? - Well that's just a joke, because the ONI game has no story at all

Was the game inspired by "Rogue-like: Evolution"? - Yes, and everyone knows it, hell, it says it even when you start playing "The Null Hypothesis", but to claim that something here was Plagiarism is way over the top

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I honestly don't know what conflict between developers you're talking about, because here no one has written anything like that, as far as I'm aware on DC either, so I'm curious where you got this information from
 
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Dazzier31 said:
I think the issue with your comment was the word "plagiarised", it has such a negative connotation that it's hard for people to take the rest of the comment in good faith.

And I don't know where you got the idea that there were differences between the developers that were stopping the game but rest assured, they are doing fine and working on it day in and day out.
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That's a good point. And thanks for clarifying dev is ongoing :).

The idea of plagiarism and differences didn't come from me - it's actually from historic posts on this chain. I simply concur that there are very visible similarities and it's therefore perfectly within logic for people to start having those discussions.

I do see how those previous comments on similarities/plagiarism could have come about. Like, people generally know who painted the Mona Lisa. If you see another portrait that looks very similar (at first glance)...then...what discussions would you logically and honestly expect to most likely follow? What I don't get is those narrow-minded people who get ultra-defensive when others are just pointing out unbiased factual situations - though actually I also don't care too much about opinions of those people :) They are free to their views, that's all :)

Again, like I said, I don't have the facts, so I'm not trying to flame anyone. I'm just reacting to comments here and pointing out that this is a great game and that I don't want it to be discontinued.
 
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biggiemac

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Crichton1 said:
Development hasn't stopped. The programming slowed slightly for finals week, but the art assets still got added. No one is fighting or needing to work things out.
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That's great to hear, thanks for clarifying :) My personal opinion is that there's actually a lot of very significant differences between the games. I personally like this one a lot more (think there's more to the story, music is great, and love the art). But hey, everyone to their own tastes :)
 
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