Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[C00merboy]

i guess the furthest you can go is grinding without leaving fall also she agreed to be poli but she said she needs to be more friends with laura to let me date her and some cool features that ron and the team could add is stargazing with girls and maybe messing around in the roof of the mansion.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

To borrow a joke form UnoriginalUserName:

Null: "Hey Rogue. I know that Jean just turned evil despite me nullify her powers be slapping her ass, which you gave me permission to do so. But could you wear these puppy ears that I got at the mall and bark for me? That would really lift my spirits give me telekinesis, babe."

Rogue (embarrassed and on the verge of an orgasm): "...Yes, Daddy. Woof woof!"

Null: "And that's why I love you, babe. Submissive and breedable."

Null, with his arm in a cast, gives a thumbs up.

Rogue drops to her knees, wets the floor, and makes an UwU face.

Fade to black circle transition focusing on Null's thumbs up, while Ross Whitby's legally distinct version of Seinfeld's end credits riff plays.


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*judges you*

Lol.

You ever watch / read Shinmai Maou no Testament?

 

[harem.king]

I agree to a certain extent. it really does feel as though Rogue wants to be better but the quirk itself could cause more harm than good by telling her to let Null make every decision no matter how small. if it's terms of them doing it inside the bedroom, that's fine but to be brought into every aspect of the relationship, it will damage her mentality more compared to before embracing it

But, she isn't coming to you to micromanage her life.
If you ask her to do something AFTER your relationship became advanced enough, she goes "yes daddy" and does it.
But otherwise she lives her life normally, doing her own things without bothering you to micro her.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

if it's terms of them doing it inside the bedroom, that's fine but to be brought into every aspect of the relationship, it will damage her mentality more compared to before embracing it

And that's why I'm skeptical of/concerned about how far the quirk system may extend to; though not necessarily in terms of writing quality, but more so in terms of potential feature creep.

 

[Casted420]

Top 10 Quirks Gone Wrong Gone Sexual (Social Experiment)

 

[salscou]

Top 10 Quirks Gone Wrong Gone Sexual (Social Experiment)

Enabling Rogue will make her a perpatual victim.
Enabling Jean will make YOU a pussywhiped mommy's boy.
Enabling Laura will make SOMEONE ELSE a victim (SNICKT!).

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

The writers have many compelling narratives to show you.

 

[Buttholder]

I believe I have a possible solution for this:

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integration.

Now, I do not own any of their products, so I'm only aware of their capabilities at a glance. But, if you could make it so, when the player is caught cheating, that someone's flesh light or butt plug is at the maximum vibration setting for an extended of time, or, have them not vibrate at all until they make up with who they cheated on, so that there's a physical repercussion for their decision making, instead of it just being though text. 'Cause let's be real: Some men don't learn until they get kicked in the nuts, or they're left walking home with blue balls.

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Honestly, if I had a penny for every time someone wrote endless paragraphs about why they should be allowed to be a horrible jerk without consequences in the game or outright abuse the characters (which actually is a red flag in my book), despite us repeatedly stating this isn't that kind of game, I'd be able to fund the entire production of the game myself.

 

[Casted420]

Enabling Laura will make SOMEONE ELSE a victim (SNICKT!).

After finding out Null cheated on her and coming back after 3 days to talk him...she finds him balls deep in her rival.

Spoiler: What happened may shock you!

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[Clobbertime]

But, she isn't coming to you to micromanage her life.

I guess you didn't read Shiny's just under yours at the top of the previous page.
Even without encouraging her quirk she gets to the point of asking you if it's okay for her to leave the room before going to let Laura know you've come out of your coma after the sentinel incident at the mall.

 

[harem.king]

I guess you didn't read Shiny's just under yours at the top of the previous page.
Even without encouraging her quirk she gets to the point of asking you if it's okay for her to leave the room before going to let Laura know you've come out of your coma after the sentinel incident at the mall.

And? that is not micromanaging her entire life, it is being polite, once, to a guy who just came out of a coma.
She picks every day whether to go to class or go gym, she picks an outfit every day, she picks whether to go to BBQ on the weekend, etc etc etc.

 

[Evil13]

And? that is not micromanaging her entire life, it is being polite, once, to a guy who just came out of a coma.
She picks every day whether to go to class or go gym, she picks an outfit every day, she picks whether to go to BBQ on the weekend, etc etc etc.

Generally speaking, Rogue will probably only ask you to control things in her life in Summer, essentially at the end of Chapter 1...of 6 proposed chapters.

This is just the beginning.

But also remember, Null is the first person that Rogue can safely touch in probably years. She is terrified of losing that and probably thinks that giving everything of herself to Null will mean that he won't leave. That isn't a healthy attitude to have. And Null does bring that up if they turn down the offer to encourage the quirk.

 

[hoorrdoorr]

Rogue will probably only ask you to control things in her life in Summer, essentially at the end of Chapter 1...of 6 proposed chapters.

Rogue in beginning of Chapter 2 be like

 

[hoorrdoorr]

But jokes aside, from our three girls i see big problem only with Jean
1. Rogue. I can fix her. She just need therapist and support. She also need positive reinforcement for HER choices and actions. Even if she'd fucked up we need to say that maybe she failed but still she is a good girl
2. Laura. She has zero or Null? BA DUM TSSSS experience of social interactions and that's why she is guided by instincts. And again all that she need is therapist and our support
3. And then Jean. Crazy bitch that will break Null and turn him in a gay. Of course she is smart, ginger and smoking hot but all what we can do is sedate her with adamantium bullet

 

[harem.king]

But also remember, Null is the first person that Rogue can safely touch in probably years. She is terrified of losing that and probably thinks that giving everything of herself to Null will mean that he won't leave. That isn't a healthy attitude to have. And Null does bring that up if they turn down the offer to encourage the quirk.

Eh.ok fine.
So she is a bit too eager to please you, specifically. big whoop.

 

[Knight]

Okay, to put it this way, a relationship should be 50/50, it's an equal partnership. Whatever decisions are made should be made together. Rogue giving Null complete control puts all the stress and responsibility on him, making it an inherently unbalanced relationship, and while it hasn't happened yet, it's a breeding ground for resentment for both of them. We just haven't seen it play out yet because it's still early days.

That whole 50/50 shit is what ruins relationships. Relationships are never truly equal nor should they be, each side will focus on what they do best. In some area's the man leads and in some the woman leads, it depends on the context. Also women generally find men that are their equals to be unattractive (not saying it's universally true, just very common).
It's really easy to prove this, 5 yes or no questions is all it takes:

1. Do you find men as tall or shorter than you attractive?
2. Do you find men as smart or less smart than you attractive?
3. Do you find men as strong or less strong than you attractive?
4. Do you find men who make as much money or less than you attractive?
5. Should women be the ones to ask out men?

What you end up with is that women want a taller, smarter, stronger, more wealthy man who is the one who initiates the relationship. Expecting relationships to be equal when women don't want to date men who are their equals is silly.
It doesn't have to be all of the above but 9/10 women will answer no to at least 3 of the above questions.

Also Rogue is starved to attention (physical and emotional) so her wanting a man who takes charge of her is understandable.

Source: Had an ex that called me daddy and wanted me to talk to her like she was a misbehaving 10 year old. Some women get off on being dominated, it's not unusual.

 

[Evil13]

3. And then Jean. Crazy bitch that will break Null and turn him in a gay. Of course she is smart, ginger and smoking hot but all what we can do is sedate her with adamantium bullet

Part of the problem with Jean is how she came to be a student of Xavier.

Just for reference, Jean was the youngest in her family

Jean is also one of the few "early" mutants, whose powers manifested in her childhood, not as a teenager. When she was 10, she and her best friend Annie were playing when Annie was accidentally hit by a car. The stress of the event caused Jean's telepathy to manifest and connected with Annie as she died. Having experienced Annie's death as she was dying had a deeply traumatic effect on Jean, leaving her withdrawn and deeply depressed. Unable to control her powers, Jean isolated herself as she was constantly driven to the edge of insanity by her powers.

She is soon introduced to one Professor Charles Xavier, who helps Jean by creating psychic shields to block her powers until she has the maturity necessary to handle that influx of power. He takes Jean on as his first student at his academy for gifted children. Unfortunately, the need for her recovery and helping Xavier create Cerebro and her training, Jean effectively lost the chance to...grow up. All while being away from her family.

Of course, this is all taken from the 616 universe, so it might not be completely in line with what we'll see in the game. But it does feel like Jean is kinda tapping into that last chance to play Family. Or it can be a young woman realising she's had to sacrifice so much in such a short time that she might be trying to take back a little bit of control. And its a mix of the two interpretations that I'm leaning to as when you change the petname so that she calls you Daddy, you can see that you've kind of changed the game on her, you're no longer the sibling she can boss around (something she never got to do as the youngest).

 

[Evil13]

Eh.ok fine.
So she is a bit too eager to please you, specifically. big whoop.

That's just it. She is too eager. She's that desperate to keep that contact with Null. Remember, the girl has been starved of physical touch for years. And now she can touch someone. A guy who (generally speaking) is kind, funny, considerate and from the comments of the girls, good looking. He's a catch and she can be in the running for that. When someone is that desperate, they'll give up anything to keep it. And it's not healthy.

That whole 50/50 shit is what ruins relationships. Relationships are never truly equal nor should they be, each side will focus on what they do best. In some area's the man leads and in some the woman leads, it depends on the context. Also women generally find men that are their equals to be unattractive (not saying it's universally true, just very common).
It's really easy to prove this, 5 yes or no questions is all it takes:

1. Do you find men as tall or shorter than you attractive?
2. Do you find men as smart or less smart than you attractive?
3. Do you find men as strong or less strong than you attractive?
4. Do you find men who make as much money or less than you attractive?
5. Should women be the ones to ask out men?

What you end up with is that women want a taller, smarter, stronger, more wealthy man who is the one who initiates the relationship. Expecting relationships to be equal when women don't want to date men who are their equals is silly.
Also Rogue is starved to attention (physical and emotional) so her wanting a man who takes charge of her is understandable.

Source: Had an ex that called me daddy and wanted me to talk to her like she was a misbehaving 10 year old. Some women get off on being dominated, it's not unusual.

We're not talking about attraction, as it's made pretty clear in the game that all the girls find Null very attractive and want to be with him.

What we're talking about is the extremes of personality that the girls will go to to fit themselves to Null. Be it Laura's stalker tendencies to Jean's sibling kick or Rogue's desire to be dominated. They're all unhealthy reactions to their lives and experiences, all catalysed by the appearance of this guy who just happens to have something they want.

The quirks are responses to emotional, mental and possibly physical trauma, and depending on how you look at it, encouraging them is taking advantage of that trauma.

 

[harem.king]

That's just it. She is too eager. She's that desperate to keep that contact with Null. Remember, the girl has been starved of physical touch for years. And now she can touch someone. A guy who (generally speaking) is kind, funny, considerate and from the comments of the girls, good looking. He's a catch and she can be in the running for that. When someone is that desperate, they'll give up anything to keep it. And it's not healthy.

Have you ever stopped to think why it is (potentially) not healthy to be exceptionally dedicated towards someone?
Because that someone can exploit you or abuse you.
So just don't exploit and abuse her. (shocking idea, I know)

> I don't want my lover to truly desperately love me because it is unhealthy because if I was a shit human being I could exploit her

is one of the most silly ass backwards pseudo logics I have ever come across.

So long as you are not abusing them, it is actually a good thing. Very sweet and romantic. And also means she is very unlikely to betray you. And are very dedicated to pleasing you. It can form a very strong long lasting happy relationship. Where you are satisfied by an eager to please partner and the partner is satisfied just by having you.

It is a conditional effect.
If you are abusing them, only then it becomes a bad thing... for them, not for you. For you it is also a good thing because they are easier to abuse.

So either it is a good thing because loyalty, romance, easy to please, happy long relationship.
Or it is a good thing because easy victim.
No matter what it isn't a drawback for you.
Thus it is not a reasonable reason to reject rogue.

 

[Knight]

The quirks are responses to emotional, mental and possibly physical trauma, and depending on how you look at it, encouraging them is taking advantage of that trauma.

I agree with that part, Null should absolutely discourage the more extreme elements of their behavior. Giving in a little bit in private is one thing but stuff like Laura stalking you is no good for everyone involved.
That being said sometimes it's the only way to get it out of someones system, encouraging it is wrong but letting them vent a bit with someone they trust is a good way to work through it.