They're a good antagonist in their first arc, though I feel like Dark Phoenix robs way too much from them, which might be heresy considering how many people consider that part of the arc legendary.
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Don't worry they get their fair share of page time throughout X-Men.
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Some thoughts on Dark Phoenix with some behind the scenes.
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Figured, but I'm not there yet.
Honestly, I have to agree with you, the arc is jarring as Phoenix is pulled in every random direction before ultimately becoming Dark Phoenix, and that arc barely lasts long enough to leave a lasting impression of Dark Phoenix.
And Phoenix really didn't feel that powerful, which made Dark Phoenix all the more jarring. The arc is supposedly legendary, but it felt more like Jean was a plot device than a character for far too much of the Phoenix arc for reasons beyond her power and they could have easily wrote her burning up most of the power in some grand feat like the whole M'kraan Crystal thing but that didn't happen and history was made.
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I don't actually own the image. If my memory serves me right I think it was salscou who made it then posted it? Unless he got it from somewhere else but if you see this salscou. Do you have the file? xD
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Yes actually, he is THE leader of the X-men for good reason, Scott catches alot of flak but most of the time he pulls through, the guy cares about leading the teams and isa case of him not really wanting to lead, but just being there because he has to and cant leave his team-mates behind.
Im really glad youre enjoying the comics though.
Oh no no no, i didnt make that, i just reposted it.
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Ok, here it is, the original post by our friendly cocaine clown.A repost of a repost. And so to this day the source eludes us...
Visit her room when she is inside, as I recall.
Both the hallways, the grounds outside and the girl's rooms are where you usually trigger the slightly evasive optionals
Here's the first source.A repost of a repost. And so to this day the source eludes us...
Edit: I've been ninja'd
Just want to bring up that Scott's negative traits seem to be a later addition because they just aren't present at this point and later he... *check's wiki* ... Oh dear god what did they do to Scott!
*check's Xavier* ... What the hell did they do to Xavier!
*check's the rest of the X-Men* ... What the fuck Marvel!
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Best aggregate summary for Scott's core character for good and ill across the comics I can put together.
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Oh boy wait till you get to The End of the World as We Know It, Probably the biggest turning point for Cyclops as a character.
More or less, Scott is, at least in this era, a deeply heroic character who is forced to be a leader in situations he is just not equipped to deal with mainly because he is the only one who can. It gets noticed in the comics where he needs to train the team, and his mounting frustrations and grief interfere. He does acknowledge he is flawed and making mistakes though.
After this era.... Well I really hope Null is David Haller because that level of BS on the side of X-men would avert so much stupid and generally being a reasonable friend would avert far more whenever the Universe isn't bending itself to make everyone seem like they swallowed a gallon of powdered lead and mercury.
I'm probably just going to stick to the Chris Claremont era. It gets so dumb from there on after, and the latest comics are just outright offensive.
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Thats what i meant with the X-men we knew.
The current X-men are unrecognizable and proved fucking Bolivar Trask right, they are undistinguishable from the brotherhood.
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Dipping a bit here and there into the early 00s selectively isn't a terrible idea but yes agreed on the current run.
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I mostly read summaries and wikis, not actual comic books, but what I read about Beast was also... like opposite of Beast of the era I have known. From the enlightened guy that allowed people to arrest him and trusted the process to some psycho, crazy scientist. Like every scientist/inventor has to, no exception that I can think of, become villain in the end.