Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[ShinyBoots1993]

For the love of god if you guys gotta continue the very least you can do is take it to the off topic thread.

Like damn at this point you can't even defend it as being related to our game.

You're quoting textbooks, grabbing random ass photos of statues, debating politics and religion.

This is not the place to debate cultural views or the psychology behind our kinks.

This thread is about a dating sim set in the X-Men universe.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

For the love of god if you guys gotta continue the very least you can do is take it to the off topic thread.

I don't want this shit in my thread. Put it in this one.

 

[merleved]

Fair enough, Shiny. I'm out. Sorry for the bother.

 

[FP00]

Edit: Might have some fun interactions with her despite not being a "full love interest" yet. It is Emma after all so I can see her do things different from the other gals.

Guessing this as well, if it's at all following the comic, then Emma is going to be very different from the other girls since she's not an ally for literal decades.

I'm guessing that, since Null is a mutant power nullifier, she intends to claim him for herself in order to have a trump card versus the other Hellfire Club members. Probably also because no mutant powers work on him, she is taking the time to actually seduce Null because a loyal servant is more useful than an artificially brainwashed one, hence why Null will probably be able to keep seeing her after the events of the next chapter because the X-Men realise Null is their best chance to spy on the Hellfire Club and Emma will keep up her seduction attempts at least to have Null close by in case she loses favour with the other Hellfire Club members.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Man. This thread since Friday.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

she's not an ally for literal decades.

Reminder that all of Marvel comics set in Earth 616 since the Fantastic Four's in universe debut has taken place over the course of 16ish years.

We're doing something similar for Earth-69.

Aaaaaalll of the original Spiderman Clone Saga takes place in Chapter 1 of this game.

So Emma coming back in Chapter 3 is 100% plausible.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Guessing this as well, if it's at all following the comic, then Emma is going to be very different from the other girls since she's not an ally for literal decades.

I'm guessing that, since Null is a mutant power nullifier, she intends to claim him for herself in order to have a trump card versus the other Hellfire Club members. Probably also because no mutant powers work on him, she is taking the time to actually seduce Null because a loyal servant is more useful than an artificially brainwashed one, hence why Null will probably be able to keep seeing her after the events of the next chapter because the X-Men realise Null is their best chance to spy on the Hellfire Club and Emma will keep up her seduction attempts at least to have Null close by in case she loses favour with the other Hellfire Club members.

Yeah. Seeing as she starts out as antagonistic things will be a bit different with her. In this case we won't be taking in-game years of course to get her to warm up to cooperation. Probably over the course of the next chapter.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Yeah. Seeing as she starts out as antagonistic things will be a bit different with her. In this case we won't be taking decades of course to get her to warm up to cooperation. Probably over the course of the next chapter.

Another Reminder.

Emma never really liked anyone else in the Hellfire Club. Also reminding people that the Hellfire Club isn't some secret cabal. It's a social club for the wealthy. Sebastian Shaw has stocks in the Sentinel program.

The current leaders are actually Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin, and Tony Stark, Ironman. Neither have powers let alone are mutants.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

Man. This thread since Friday.

And I have next to nothing to do with it this time.

I'm just sitting here, vibing, and patently waiting for more story, headpats, snake bite piercings, tramp stamps, Rogue's ass, Storm's saggers huge tracts of land and bountiful harvest, and armpit hair.

 

[FP00]

Reminder that all of Marvel comics set in Earth 616 since the Fantastic Four's in universe debut has taken place over the course of 16ish years.

We're doing something similar for Earth-69.

Aaaaaalll of the original Spiderman Clone Saga takes place in Chapter 1 of this game.

So Emma coming back in Chapter 3 is 100% plausible.

Yeah. Seeing as she starts out as antagonistic things will be a bit different with her. In this case we won't be taking in-game years of course to get her to warm up to cooperation. Probably over the course of the next chapter.

Meant she's not a true ally for literal decades in our real-world time (allying in 1994 from her debut in 1979 and officially joining the X-Men in 2001), I gave up trying to tell how much time passed in-universe in Marvel comics.

Another Reminder.

Emma never really liked anyone else in the Hellfire Club. Also reminding people that the Hellfire Club isn't some secret cabal. It's a social club for the wealthy. Sebastian Shaw has stocks in the Sentinel program.

The current leaders are actually Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin, and Tony Stark, Ironman. Neither have powers let alone are mutants.

It's what made them really interesting antagonists for the X-Men when they first debuted, as it forced them to be more cloak-and-dagger/ politics compared to standard superheroics and super-villainy. Unfortunately, they were passed over for other antagonists after their major arcs wrapped up, at least in the comics I read.

Really interested to see where Emma's character ends up because I can't see her switching sides to teach at Xavier's school even after the events of chapter 2, due to her pride and arrogance not letting her. Maybe engaging favourably with the X-Men as part of her own powerplays with the Hellfire Club (something she tried when Magneto led the X-Men, but that plot point went nowhere).

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Meant she's not a true ally for literal decades in our real-world time (allying in 1994 from her debut in 1979 and officially joining the X-Men in 2001), I gave up trying to tell how much time passed in-universe in Marvel comics.

Nah I getcha. I was just saying for the sake of things that you don't have to wait for a sequel to get to go on a date with Emma.

A year is a really long time when you actually sit back and look and a lot of stuff can happen in a week.

So a thirty year absence can be a short 3 month long coma.

 

[Knight]

EDIT: @merleved
deleted the response and moved it to the off topic thread to not clog the page
If you want to continue this we can, but please, answer in the off topic thread here: https://f95zone.to/threads/the-chuerch-of-kurt.221332/

 

[cannavaro99]

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RonChon:hey fam!

brief update: since 0.9a will force me to redo the Live2D model files to accommodate the new stuff we're adding anyways, I figured we'd make one more push to add in some of the items that have received a good amount of community requests and aren't a particularly heavy lift for the artists and minimally increase model complexity

these include:

customizable lip and eyeshadow coloring (and for the hell of it, eyebrows too cause why not). I'm demoing with some pretty subtle effects but you can imagine making them look as goth/clowny as you want,
a few more hairstyles that I've been wanting to add for a little bit,
face piercings,
tattoos,

now, I know that one community request for a while now has been more body hair options - specifically, armpit hair. this requires a little more effort on the art side and is frankly a little niche. so, I want to leave it up to the community. we are opening up a metaphorical tip jar for direct donations: if it reaches $1000, I will work to add armpit hair options to the Ch. 1 and Ch. 2 characters

why $1000? 1) to fully cover the direct art costs and 2) to set up the game's funding to be net positive from the whole affair. body hair fans get what they want and the rest of the community gets the benefit of more money plugged into the rest of game development

I will keep this post updated with how close we are to the goal. just reach out if you are interested in tipping! if you've been asking for more body hair options, this is your opportunity

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I feel we should repost this as it was buried too fast

 

[Knight]

Guessing this as well, if it's at all following the comic, then Emma is going to be very different from the other girls since she's not an ally for literal decades.

I'm guessing that, since Null is a mutant power nullifier, she intends to claim him for herself in order to have a trump card versus the other Hellfire Club members. Probably also because no mutant powers work on him, she is taking the time to actually seduce Null because a loyal servant is more useful than an artificially brainwashed one, hence why Null will probably be able to keep seeing her after the events of the next chapter because the X-Men realise Null is their best chance to spy on the Hellfire Club and Emma will keep up her seduction attempts at least to have Null close by in case she loses favour with the other Hellfire Club members.

Maybe, but the hitch in that plan is that Null already has 3 smoking hot GF's, one of which is a rather protective psychic that is a class above Emma.

Emma would need to separate Null in a way that the institute crew can't find him without making him hostile to her. Null isn't really the cheating type as the game makes it clear that getting all three requires being open about your intentions and having them be friends. All three hate Emma, especially Jean, and I don't see any short term way to fix that so the standard seduction methods Emma uses are all out the window.

Emma relies on men being either weak willed or slaves to their desires, Null is neither. All she can do is threaten him or the people he loves, neither of which gets her the ally she wants.

A more likely play by Emma is to directly appeal to the institute to help her take down the Hellfire club then once it's in shambles raid it for members and resources and rebuild it to her liking.

 

[SHADOWM00N]

Shes 5'8'', Anna Marie is a tall glass of water allright.

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Man the artist that done the character arts for Marvel's Avengers Alliance really did had a nice art style.

Also how tf did this thread turn into The Hair Hypothesis?

 

[FP00]

Maybe, but the hitch in that plan is that Null already has 3 smoking hot GF's, one of which is a rather protective psychic that is class above Emma. Emma would need to separate Null in a way that the institute crew can't find him without making him hostile to her.

A more likely play by Emma is to directly appeal to the institute to help her take down the Hellfire club then once it's in shambles raid it for members and resources and rebuild it to her liking.

Based on a Dazzler preview, it looks like things will progress more or less like how they did in the comic, with Null being part of the crew that recruits Dazzler (Scott, Jean and Nightcrawler in the comic) while the rest of the team is captured by Emma Frost during their recruitment of Kitty Pryde.

From there, it's a pretty non-stop rescue attempt, subsequent hiding out and then infiltration of the Hellfire Club. Dark Phoenix itself only gets three issues (I was actually shocked at how quick it went for such an apparently legendary story). I can see Emma getting a one-to-one encounter when the X-Men are captured during the Hellfire infiltration, but things go by really fast. I'm guessing things will be spread out a bit more than they were in the comic, so that things can at least occur at a slightly less breakneck pace, or Dark Phoenix will be the finale for Chapter 2's Fall arc, with Emma's encounters occurring after the Dark Phoenix event.

I have no idea how the cocoon is going to be explained, though or X-Factor.

 

[NexivSelecaf]

Man the artist that done the character arts for Marvel's Avengers Alliance really did had a nice art style.

Also how tf did this thread turn into The Hair Hypothesis?

Average body hair fan: Engaging in debates about how people generally perceived women with hairy armpits and legs using historical references and discussing whether the fetish is learned or innate. ...form my understanding of what was going on.

Average body hair enjoyer (me): Hairy women make brain go brrr.

...But yeah. Hairy girls got announced as a $1,000 stretch goal. I'll be glad if it happens, but I'm actually pretty satisfied with the current pubic and anal hair options. Plus, it's not like I can't add Rogue (and Chie) with armpit hair to my portfolio if I really wanted to that badly, so I can get what I want either way.

 

[Knight]

Emma never really liked anyone else in the Hellfire Club. Also reminding people that the Hellfire Club isn't some secret cabal. It's a social club for the wealthy. Sebastian Shaw has stocks in the Sentinel program.

Emma never really liked anyone, I don't recall her having any real friends back in those days, just frenemies. I think the first genuine connection she made was Scott and to a lesser extent Kitty but even those had a manipulative element to them.
Emma is a really damaged women, I don't think she even can be friends with anyone and feels uncomfortable if she isn't manipulating everyone around her.

I have to disagree with the Hellfire club not being a secret cabal, it might not be that way now but it was very much a Illuminati type group in it's early days. The rich and powerful knew about it, especially the criminal class, but it wasn't exactly common knowledge to those that hadn't come up against it.

Man the artist that done the character arts for Marvel's Avengers Alliance really did had a nice art style.

Traditional fighting game art styles have always lent themselves well to comic hero's since they give fighters heroic proportions.

Also how tf did this thread turn into The Hair Hypothesis?

One dude had a serious armpit hair fetish and went off on anyone who wasn't in to it, calling them brainwashed. Other people chimed in saying he was full of it and it kinda exploded from there. I jumped in because I love a good internet mud-flinging and this thread has been wild for the last few days.

 

[Knight]

Based on a Dazzler preview, it looks like things will progress more or less like how they did in the comic, with Null being part of the crew that recruits Dazzler (Scott, Jean and Nightcrawler in the comic) while the rest of the team is captured by Emma Frost during their recruitment of Kitty Pryde.

From there, it's a pretty non-stop rescue attempt, subsequent hiding out and then infiltration of the Hellfire Club. Dark Phoenix itself only gets three issues (I was actually shocked at how quick it went for such an apparently legendary story). I can see Emma getting a one-to-one encounter when the X-Men are captured during the Hellfire infiltration, but things go by really fast. I'm guessing things will be spread out a bit more than they were in the comic, so that things can at least occur at a slightly less breakneck pace, or Dark Phoenix will be the finale for Chapter 2's Fall arc, with Emma's encounters occurring after the Dark Phoenix event.

I have no idea how the cocoon is going to be explained, though or X-Factor.

I feel like the writers wouldn't just slot in Null for Scott like that.

There will be references to events in the comics but based on previous events they will mix it up, the way Null calmed Phoenix was a direct reference to how Logan killed Jean in the movies. Null might be along for the ride relative to the X-Men story-line but the game is his personal journey, given his power and likely connection to Shaw (my personal theory is that they are related) there will be major events where he is the focus given what a high value target he is for those in the hellfire club; they would either want him dead to remove a potential major threat or captured and turned.

 

[FP00]

I feel like the writers wouldn't just slot in Null for Scott like that.

There will be references to events in the comics but based on previous events they will mix it up, the way Null calmed Phoenix was a direct reference to how Logan killed Jean in the movies. Null might be along for the ride relative to the X-Men story-line but the game is his personal journey, given his power and likely connection to Shaw (my personal theory is that they are related) there will be major events where he is the focus given what a high value target he is for those in the hellfire club; they would either want him dead to remove a potential major threat or captured and turned.

I meant that Null would be assigned to Scott's group to recruit Dazzler; no one can really replace anyone in that portion of the story, as everyone works together as a team. As for the Hellfire Club trying to capture Null, yes, that was the point of the ambush. The mercenaries sent to capture them had specially designed power armour to nullify and capture the X-Men, with only intervention from Dazzler saving their butts. They then went on to rescue the rest of the team.

The writers might change some things, but Dazzler's recruitment ambush at least seems like it'd be one-to-one with the comic.