Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[salscou]

I really hope Null will fly someday. He was so looking forward to it and then bummed when Xavier told him he didn't have a flying power in the intro.

He was told he could go to jetpack classes though, honestly that seemed to exite the boy more than a mansion filled with thirsty mutant girls.

 

[armond]

He was told he could go to jetpack classes though, honestly that seemed to exite the boy more than a mansion filled with thirsty mutant girls.

A man among men

 

[xlebyshik]

There's very few things I'd consider myself to be an expert in, but this is one of them. When I say we've considered what kind of ramifications even slight changes to the timeline would have, I'm not joking. Hell, my 'audition' for joining the team was to rewrite a key event from the comics with Laura as part of the team, but without having her replace someone else wholesale, so we've definitely got one eye on imagining what having characters like her on the team will change. And there's some stuff coming up in later years that I promise no one will see coming, one event in particular that I genuinely wish I could spoil in advance that I'm really proud of. But between the pair of us, Shiny and myself have gone to scary levels of depth in working out how and where things will go.

We already had her art and some of her writing. Same with Rogue.

If we went with a hard reset instead, the initial line up would be Jean, Polaris, and Storm.

After reading a fair amount of text here, I realized that it is very important for you to match the original comics, and you spend a lot of effort on this so that everything is canon, and you do not want to add anything of your own.
And here is the question, did you have so much ready-made content on X-23 that you decided to violate the location of the characters in the timelines?
It just seems to me personally that if you spend so much effort to make everything according to canon, then maybe it was worth discarding X-23? She will still take up a small part of the entire content (1 girl out of 15). So you will not lose much, but you will get rid of the problems with how to fit her in, and you will be able to 100% correspond to the canon that you are trying to adhere to, and something that you can confidently point to if the situation requires it. At the same time, Rogue should be moved further in the game, because as I understand it, she also appeared earlier than necessary, but it is still possible to squeeze in later with other girls (???)

And the content with X-23 does not necessarily have to be thrown out, it can be put off for later, and used when she grows up (For example, in TNH 2) So the efforts of the artists will not be wasted, or just use her body for the girl who will have to come out, who is very similar to her physically, then you won’t even have to throw anything out or put it off.

 

[Badkarmakid]

After reading a fair amount of text here, I realized that it is very important for you to match the original comics, and you spend a lot of effort on this so that everything is canon, and you do not want to add anything of your own.
And here is the question, did you have so much ready-made content on X-23 that you decided to violate the location of the characters in the timelines?
It just seems to me personally that if you spend so much effort to make everything according to canon, then maybe it was worth discarding X-23? She will still take up a small part of the entire content (1 girl out of 15). So you will not lose much, but you will get rid of the problems with how to fit her in, and will be able to 100% match the canon, which you try to adhere to as much as possible. Well, Rogue was moved by moving her further in the game, because as I understand it, she also appeared earlier than necessary, but it is still possible to squeeze her in later with other girls.

And the content with X-23 does not necessarily have to be thrown away, you can put it aside for later, and use it when she grows up (for example, in TNH 2) So the efforts of the artists will not be wasted, or just use her body for a girl who is very similar to her physically, then you won’t even need to throw anything away or put it aside.

Heresy I shan't hear (read) anymore of this nonsense! But for real yea it was pretty much they had a bunch of her art ready before they decided on the original lineup so they changed the story a bit in order for her to work. I think originally her spot was supposed to be Polaris(?) but they didn't have enough art for her. I'm not very familiar with the timeline/lore so maybe that still doesn't make sense /shrug.

 

[salscou]

After reading a fair amount of text here, I realized that it is very important for you to match the original comics, and you spend a lot of effort on this so that everything is canon, and you do not want to add anything of your own.
And here is the question, did you have so much ready-made content on X-23 that you decided to violate the location of the characters in the timelines?
It just seems to me personally that if you spend so much effort to make everything according to canon, then maybe it was worth discarding X-23? She will still take up a small part of the entire content (1 girl out of 15). So you will not lose much, but you will get rid of the problems with how to fit her in, and will be able to 100% match the canon, which you try to adhere to as much as possible. Well, Rogue was moved by moving her further in the game, because as I understand it, she also appeared earlier than necessary, but it is still possible to squeeze her in later with other girls.

And the content with X-23 does not necessarily have to be thrown away, you can put it aside for later, and use it when she grows up (for example, in TNH 2) So the efforts of the artists will not be wasted, or just use her body for a girl who is very similar to her physically, then you won’t even need to throw anything away or put it aside.

If we go by timeline then we wouldnt get Rogue either.
We would have Jean-Lorna-Storm as beggining trio.
If you want to skip the very beggining, that would still be Jean-Storm-Magik and/or Kitty.

 

[eatgreencrayons]

After reading a fair amount of text here, I realized that it is very important for you to match the original comics, and you spend a lot of effort on this so that everything is canon, and you do not want to add anything of your own.
And here is the question, did you have so much ready-made content on X-23 that you decided to violate the location of the characters in the timelines?
It just seems to me personally that if you spend so much effort to make everything according to canon, then maybe it was worth discarding X-23? She will still take up a small part of the entire content (1 girl out of 15). So you will not lose much, but you will get rid of the problems with how to fit her in, and you will be able to 100% correspond to the canon that you are trying to adhere to, and something that you can confidently point to if the situation requires it. At the same time, Rogue should be moved further in the game, because as I understand it, she also appeared earlier than necessary, but it is still possible to squeeze in later with other girls (???)

And the content with X-23 does not necessarily have to be thrown out, it can be put off for later, and used when she grows up (For example, in TNH 2) So the efforts of the artists will not be wasted, or just use her body for the girl who will have to come out, who is very similar to her physically, then you won’t even have to throw anything out or put it off.

Yeah, from what I understand, they had enough content for Rogue and X-23 in the beginning before they decided to make this its own project that they decided to keep them and adjust the timeline to account for it. No matter what they do, they can't possibly 100% correspond to canon, there are going to be edges that have to be sanded down, moved around, judgement calls made, not to mention inconsistencies within the material itself.

I don't think taking away two of the three girls they've got substantial content for right now would be a... brilliant decision. Even temporarily.

 

[Leathermax]

Null seems to be a lot like piccolo, he gets his ass kicked all the time, but he also has a bunch of ill defined powers that just show up like the limited morphing perk. Maybe he will be able to fly and special beam cannon in the future

If Null starts aura farming like Piccolo and shouts HELLZONE GRENADE (most fucking awesome badass shit for a name ever made) when spraying his jizz on the hoes, I'll support TNH in Patreon.

 

[Giltia]

If Null starts aura farming like Piccolo and shouts HELLZONE GRENADE (most fucking awesome badass shit for a name ever made) when spraying his jizz on the hoes, I'll support TNH in Patreon.

"Nail Gun"..... "Shit, that's good"

 

[salscou]

If Null starts aura farming like Piccolo and shouts HELLZONE GRENADE (most fucking awesome badass shit for a name ever made) when spraying his jizz on the hoes, I'll support TNH in Patreon.

Too bad, youll get Null aurafarming like the great saiyaman.

Spoiler: He already has his own fightan gremlin after all.

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[The Al]

Too bad, youll get Null aurafarming like the great saiyaman.
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What I'm saying is you can dodge bullets, much less any attack i throw at you?

 

[Asdfzu]

Will we ever get a female protagonist to play? Does anybody here know? :3

 

[Karmadive]

Will we ever get a female protagonist to play? Does anybody here know? :3

From the-list-of-no on discord

"Female Player Character: It's something we want to do but we'd basically be making two games at once. Maybe down the line but right now it would add a lot to the work load and make updates much slower."

 

[Asdfzu]

From the-list-of-no on discord

"Female Player Character: It's something we want to do but we'd basically be making two games at once. Maybe down the line but right now it would add a lot to the work load and make updates much slower."

Oki doki, thanksies for telling me about the Discord updates. I'm really hoping that it will happen eventually.

 

[SeveralGeese]

Oki doki, thanksies for telling me about the Discord updates. I'm really hoping that it will happen eventually.

you, me, and a hella lot of other people <3

though I totally agree with their decision to not think about it until much later. not as simple as tweaking a few art assets and replacing all the "he"s with "she"s

 

[SHADOWM00N]

Too bad, youll get Null aurafarming like the great saiyaman.
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If we have The Great Saiyaman I ask for us to be able to aura farm like Kamen Rider and Rider Kick people to oblivion since The Great Saiyaman was inspired by KR.

 

[qwentra]

There is new official update v0.8b
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Spoiler: Changelog

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[Badkarmakid]

There is new official update v0.8b
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Beware my game is seriously bugged at the moment after upgrading to 0.8b. I've reported it on the Discord but Ron Chon is probably asleep rn or something.

UPDATE: It was a problem with preloading characters, it's fixed now in a new version of 0.8b uploaded this morning. Same DL link as above.

I'll include the traceback here for any wizards that are curious. Also some screenshots of what is happening.

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[ShinyBoots1993]

The amount of the effort put in the game is impressive.

Tha-

Too bad it just has too many features for me to care.

-nks...

Theres no such a thing as a score.
You are playing Null, but how Null is, its up to you, you can be edgy, heroic or pragmatic, and the characters will react to that.
Same with the girls, their points arent limited by events but by your interactions with them, you dont need to min-max them, maybe something that had a negative point impact in one scene, will later give you a boost in love and trust because the girl realizes you were trying to help her, this isnt a "number go up to poontang time" game.

This has been by design from day one of me being on the team.

Sometimes taking a point hit can lead to something special later on. We are very anti-min-maxing.

We do allow SOME room for it since speed running Rogue-Like was a hobby of many.

More seriously though, even before 1.1 comes with the new story content, 1.0 will probably add a lot of scenes and such too.

There will be a lot of sex and headpats added to the game before 1.1 so unless someone is holding out for a chapter 2 girl I don't know why people keep saying they're gonna wait.

at what point in romancing do the girls start getting mad for you seeing the others?

As others have said, when you've committed to a relationship.

Also is there a trick to getting certain events to spawn? because I CANNOT get x 23 to train at night and its completely locked me off of progressing her quests.

RNG is a bitch. We're actively combatting it.

...Wait, what?! Since when did Consent Simulator™have THIS level of leniency?!

Since we had so many complaints. Like we gave y'all anal as a trade for the upgraded poly system.

I only started playing at 0.6a or b. If it was different before that I don't know, sorry.

Dude, where is your icon from? I want it.

And what happens if I make her climax more than 100 times?
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I remember people telling us the sex system was too hard.

Nah. Rogue just has a perfect 30 day cycle and because it's lewd game land , it's always day 5 until the plot needs it otherwise

In actuality I think I remember dialogue about them all being on a pill.

Yeah. There's just 5 years of really strong bc pills because everyone thought strategically planning around gut punches was too weird.

And she is horny?

Jean has the highest sex drive. It's a sad irony that she is both the oldest and most able to obtain a physical relationship without possibly murdering someone or putting them into a coma. But failed at understanding people which had her holding onto her V card due to kinda having a stick up her ass, and not in the fun way.

This is why you can do almost all of her generic sex content a full season before the other two. Eagerness + proper sex ed.

if someone was changed by an accident, but that change effectively made an edit to their DNA which was basically the same as the X Gene

I cannot confirm nor deny things about Null's powers that isn't expressly stated in the game, like them not working on magic like Juggernaut, but I can and will state that Peter Parker will likely remain sticky if touched the right wrong way.

which is why (from my understanding) he eventually gets old and dies.

Your understanding is correct.

I really hope Null will fly someday. He was so looking forward to it and then bummed when Xavier told him he didn't have a flying power in the intro.

He was told he could go to jetpack classes though, honestly that seemed to exite the boy more than a mansion filled with thirsty mutant girls.

This is actually in response to a lot of discussion on Null's traversal capabilities and jetpacks winning by a large margin.

After reading a fair amount of text here, I realized that it is very important for you to match the original comics, and you spend a lot of effort on this so that everything is canon, and you do not want to add anything of your own.
And here is the question, did you have so much ready-made content on X-23 that you decided to violate the location of the characters in the timelines?

We actually don't care about matching the original comics beat for beat. As some will notice we're comic authentic. Jean still has her Evo casual outfit and Laura's eye color doesn't match any prior source material.

(most fucking awesome badass shit for a name ever made)

Will we ever get a female protagonist to play? Does anybody here know? :3

From the-list-of-no on discord

"Female Player Character: It's something we want to do but we'd basically be making two games at once. Maybe down the line but right now it would add a lot to the work load and make updates much slower."

you, me, and a hella lot of other people <3

though I totally agree with their decision to not think about it until much later. not as simple as tweaking a few art assets and replacing all the "he"s with "she"s

We really, REALLY want a female Null option. Though as Geese said it's a lot more complicated than it sounds.

Just take a look at Love and Sex: Second Base. They tried it, it burnt them, and they made the smart decision to focus on the male protag's content. Now they're putting out the female protag's content without worrying about either falling behind.

 

[Clumbus999]

Hello! I’ve been playing on Mac for the past week, and all of a sudden today Rogue stopped being able to change clothes in the standing position. Training, bed, otherwise, it’s the same outfit. Put her in any other position and she undresses, put her back in standing and it goes back to the normal outfit which didn’t happen before. Is there a way to recalibrate this? I’ve saved and closed the application for now.

 

[xlebyshik]

It wasn't a poll for validity. We have a lot of people who enjoy monogamous romance with the girls. The data has informed me that those are a vocal minority. Which is useful data.

The joke is that when you develop a game, you think it through carefully, putting in meaning, history, etc., and in fact, a sex game becomes a real story for you, with plots and relationships, so it’s quite normal that you, like in reality, get attached to some girls and think that most people will do the same, and when you read the reviews of those few people, it only further reinforces your beliefs, but the reality is that a sex game for most people still remains a sex game, people don’t perceive it as some kind of story and character interactions, most people will either go in to fast-forward through the game and try out all the sex scenes with everyone in order to jerk off, or the same thing but without fast-forwarding and reading the plot, so it was absolutely obvious to me that 15+ would be chosen by 80%+ people, in fact, I’m even surprised that so few, I expected to see over 90% here, and this means that you’re doing a good job of developing the story and character interactions, that more people see this as more than just a game for jerk off, but a game in which you can really build a relationship with some special girl, because they are developed, and not like in 99% of games where the girl is just a doll for sex.

And the survey did not have a clear request to indicate the girls' ratings, I myself did not immediately understand that this was a mandatory/obligatory point, here some people simply ignored the girls' icons, choosing simply an answer to one of the points, so it is not surprising that answers 1-6 do not match the girls' ratings, you should have initially asked for what you did immediately in the next message.

By the way, regarding poly, I don’t know about the interaction of girls with each other according to the canon, but in the game it will clearly be visible? Well, let’s say, without hints, figure out which pair or trio of girls is better to date and not add other girls to the relationship, in order to see some unique actions, events, development of relations between them?

For the sake of interest, I would not refuse to enter into a relationship with some specific girls (if I like them) in order to observe how uniquely the relationship is built between us because of this, but it should be obvious that there is something between them, so that without hints you can understand that you need to form a group for a relationship.

I'm expecting a mod at some point that limits texts to three girls a day, maybe randomly chosen.

If the developers do nothing about the fact that you can date 15+ girls at the same time, then this should not be added by a mod, but by the developers directly into the game.
I know they talked about people being to blame and being held accountable for deciding to date everyone at once, but in reality it will just piss everyone off, considering that most will still log in to fuck everyone.
Maybe not a limit on the number of messages per day, but come up with something else, as already mentioned, merging chats, or some other things so that there is no constant spam/notifications in the game, because it will be very tiring in the long run and will clearly not bring any benefit to the game.
Well, for those who are dating several girls, don't touch anything, I don't think it will be a problem for them to answer one/each of them personally.