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Well! As graphics makes much more Ren'py but as far as I've seen it takes a lot of resources, time and technical skill to invest. RPGM is much less graphically demanding however it has its limits both in terms of rendering definition and animation movements, so times are shorter.
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Not really - the render are the same size, need the same time to render for Ren'py and RPGM. You need both times the same resources, time and skills to make the graphics. But many things that are ready made in RPGM need to be made if you want them in Ren'py like a shop, stats, skill management etc. and some other things you have in RPGM in it's standard pixel graphics are need to be made in Ren'py too like a map. And that means you need additional render you can do for RPGM if you want but don't need to do for RPGM to have the story work the way you want.
 

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I do not think so, the definition of JOHN is decisively superior to say otherwise is to deny the evidence
 

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I just discovered this game and after playing it from the beginning (on only one route coz I can't stand humiliation) I must put it directly into my Top 5 of "sharing" games, togehter with TAC, JOHN, Anna EA and Angelica! Very well done from all points of view! Congrats!

Just a few comments which are not meant to diminish the general value of this game:

1 - I played it from the beginning in the unofficial Ren'py version and everything went perfect, no bugs, no lost scenes, no problems with advancing the story. I see a lot of comments here about exactly that kind of problems with this original version, therefore I can only recommend to try the Ren'py version. I had the WT open but in fact I did not need it.. everything went quite automatically from the beginning till the end.

2 - The writer appears to be a native English speaker and on top of that, also a well educated person. The writing is very good. Even the very much "in fashion" trend of placing a question mark after sentences that are not questions appears a lot less here than in other stories. Grammar is generally GOOD..

That's the reason why I personally can not understand why he permanently writes (hundreds of times) "your's" instead of "yours". I'm not a native English speaker but I learned English in school and the difference between these is something any native English speaker should learn in the 2nd or 3rd grade.. This writer has obviously had more education than that,which is why I can't understand this.. is this some "Internet slang" or something like that?

For everybody's information: "your's" is the short form of "your is", OK? You can say for instance "Your is the glory" or you can say "Your's the glory".. no problem with that. BUT you CAN NOT say: "This book is your's" because that would mean "This book is your is".. which makes no sense..

Maybe someone can explain why clearly good educated people like this writer can make such mistakes in their native language and repeat them hundreds of times. This problem may sound very "European" to some of you ( which is normal coz I am one :) ) but it just makes me crazy to see that again and again and again in a game of such good quality.
 
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That misspelling is a common problem in english speaking countries. But you are wrong in your explanation. Your's is slang and does not exist in dictionaries. Correct is yours. - It would be 'Yours the glory' not 'your's the glory.' because 'your's' does not exist . And correct is "The book is yours"

 
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I just discovered this game and after playing it from the beginning (on only one route coz I can't stand humiliation) I must put it directly into my Top 5 of "sharing" games, togehter with TAC, JOHN, Anna EA and Angelica! Very well done from all points of view! Congrats!

Just a few comments which are not meant to diminish the general value of this game:

1 - I played it from the beginning in the unofficial Ren'py version and everything went perfect, no bugs, no lost scenes, no problems with advancing the story. I see a lot of comments here about exactly that kind of problems with this original version, therefore I can only recommend to try the Ren'py version. I had the WT open but in fact I did not need it.. everything went quite automatically from the beginning till the end.

2 - The writer appears to be a native English speaker and on top of that, also a well educated person. The writing is very good. Even the very much "in fashion" trend of placing a question mark after sentences that are not questions appears a lot less here than in other stories. Grammar is generally GOOD..

That's the reason why I personally can not understand why he permanently writes (hundreds of times) "your's" instead of "yours". I'm not a native English speaker but I learned English in school and the difference between these is something any native English speaker should learn in the 2nd or 3rd grade.. This writer has obviously had more education than that,which is why I can't understand this.. is this some "Internet slang" or something like that?

For everybody's information: "your's" is the short form of "your is", OK? You can say for instance "Your is the glory" or you can say "Your's the glory".. no problem with that. BUT you CAN NOT say: "This book is your's" because that would mean "This book is your is".. which makes no sense..

Maybe someone can explain why clearly good educated people like this writer can make such mistakes in their native language and repeat them hundreds of times. This problem may sound very "European" to some of you ( which is normal coz I am one :) ) but it just makes me crazy to see that again and again and again in a game of such good quality.
Hi, I can only tell you that the author and developer is American, he lives in America and mainly writes erotic books, from one of them this game was taken, you can read it at his page where there is also the WT. Then, not being of English or American mother tongue and with the English I bicker every day :ROFLMAO: I do not know how to answer to the various forms of language that may be there.
The Ren'py version in my opinion takes away the playfulness of the RPG in some scenes are not faithfully reproduced for example the one of the dog can change if you go there in the morning before going to the office or for lunch, the Ren'py does only the first one.
Theoretically who made the Ren'py VN version maybe had to find another solution or give the possibility to see the two versions of the scene, small things that make a difference.
 

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That misspelling is a common problem in english speaking countries. But you are wrong in your explanation. Your's is slang and does not exist in dictionaries. Correct is yours. - It would be 'Yours the glory' not 'your's the glory.' because 'your's' does not exist . And correct is "The book is yours"

Yes i imagined it may be slang but what i said was that your's is not the same as yours and therefore it's not right. If it's slang or not, i have no way to know as a not native English speaker.. I thought it could be short for your is, coz i dunno about slangs :)

You say: "It would be 'Yours the glory' ".. i would however say that the right form would be "Yours is the glory" :)

And of course correct is "The book is yours", what i said was that "The book is your's" is NOT correct :)

Interesting fact: the spellcheck on THIS site underlined with red the word "your's" whenever i wrote it, which means it recognized it as wrong in itself no mater in which sentence. Which means, as you said, that the word "your's" does not exist..

It would still be a good idea if the writer used a find and replace function on his texts and replace all "your's" with "yours" coz this is a published novel and not some internet chat or like here a message board where i can allow myself to be lazy and write i instead of I or coz instead of because :)
 
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I'm glad you enjoyed the game! I'll say that although some people have some issues playing the official RPGM version, by far most people have no problems with it and it runs well. I recommend giving it a shot because the open-world aspect gives it a lot more depth than the Ren'py version.

As for "yours" vs. "your's" - I just did a quick check and no, I don't use "your's" in the game - not even once from what I've seen. I do use the proper form of "yours" quite often. I can only think that it is something changed in the Ren'py version by its creator. Why it would be changed, I don't know. Thanks for pointing it out, though. If anyone does find a spelling/grammar error in the official version, dm me so I can change it.

- J. S.

I just discovered this game and after playing it from the beginning (on only one route coz I can't stand humiliation) I must put it directly into my Top 5 of "sharing" games, togehter with TAC, JOHN, Anna EA and Angelica! Very well done from all points of view! Congrats!

Just a few comments which are not meant to diminish the general value of this game:

1 - I played it from the beginning in the unofficial Ren'py version and everything went perfect, no bugs, no lost scenes, no problems with advancing the story. I see a lot of comments here about exactly that kind of problems with this original version, therefore I can only recommend to try the Ren'py version. I had the WT open but in fact I did not need it.. everything went quite automatically from the beginning till the end.

2 - The writer appears to be a native English speaker and on top of that, also a well educated person. The writing is very good. Even the very much "in fashion" trend of placing a question mark after sentences that are not questions appears a lot less here than in other stories. Grammar is generally GOOD..

That's the reason why I personally can not understand why he permanently writes (hundreds of times) "your's" instead of "yours". I'm not a native English speaker but I learned English in school and the difference between these is something any native English speaker should learn in the 2nd or 3rd grade.. This writer has obviously had more education than that,which is why I can't understand this.. is this some "Internet slang" or something like that?

For everybody's information: "your's" is the short form of "your is", OK? You can say for instance "Your is the glory" or you can say "Your's the glory".. no problem with that. BUT you CAN NOT say: "This book is your's" because that would mean "This book is your is".. which makes no sense..

Maybe someone can explain why clearly good educated people like this writer can make such mistakes in their native language and repeat them hundreds of times. This problem may sound very "European" to some of you ( which is normal coz I am one :) ) but it just makes me crazy to see that again and again and again in a game of such good quality.
 

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I hope she will chat into porn.

She can manage a proper gang bang.

But dev please..take more care about sex scenes..they need to be longer and better descripted with different renders
 

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I'm glad you enjoyed the game! I'll say that although some people have some issues playing the official RPGM version, by far most people have no problems with it and it runs well. I recommend giving it a shot because the open-world aspect gives it a lot more depth than the Ren'py version.

As for "yours" vs. "your's" - I just did a quick check and no, I don't use "your's" in the game - not even once from what I've seen. I do use the proper form of "yours" quite often. I can only think that it is something changed in the Ren'py version by its creator. Why it would be changed, I don't know. Thanks for pointing it out, though. If anyone does find a spelling/grammar error in the official version, dm me so I can change it.

- J. S.
OK that would explain, although i can also not see a reason for changing the text in the Ren'py version as compared to the RPGM. But that would at least explain that NOT YOU wrote "your's" instead of "yours", which, by the generally high level of your writing was what i couldn't understand:)

However (hehehe) although you did not put question marks after affirmative sentences (thanks for that) i can remember at least 1 place where there was a real question and .. no question mark after it lol . But that may also have been the Ren'py..

However2 (hehehe2) there's also something that can really not be in the Renpy version only: at the beginning of the game when Stacy tells her life story, she mentions that a girl friend encouraged her and she got drunk at some party and became a woman that night with some muscular guy. That was BEFORE meeting Jason. But then at the job when they play that game where she sits on the lap of the guys if they guess right something about her, Marcus says that she must have been a virgin when she married and she confirms she was.. This has nothing to do with grammar but you may wish to check because, for some of us, that's an important detail :)

Here the proof (but also from the Ren'py version):
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I believe most didn't ever recognized it. And just an explanation - what if she told her husband he was the first and doesn't want the info that he wasn't not to get back to him ?
You can imagine whatever you want but this is what you SEE!
What i mean is that for those of us going on the sharing but "non humiliating" path, Stacy being a virgin when she met Jason would fit better in our understanding of things. Also it's nicer to make a slut out of a virgin then to just reload an ex slut :)

If she wasn't but told her husband that she was as you suggest, that means their whole relationship started with a lie. That's cheating "avant la letre".. That could work on the cuck path but not on the mutual consenting sharing path.

But as far as i understand the initial project was based more on the cuck path and for that, Stacy not being a virgin fits better there. But for the "open relationship" CONSENTED "sharing" and "hotwife" path (and NO, I will not call that "ntr" coz it's NOT) which probably came later after the dev saw some of the comments, it would be nicer if she was a virgin. All that's needed is to remove those few sentences at the beginning and then her confirming she was a virgin during that game would make sense.
 
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OK that would explain, although i can also not see a reason for changing the text in the Ren'py version as compared to the RPGM. But that would at least explain that NOT YOU wrote "your's" instead of "yours", which, by the generally high level of your writing was what i couldn't understand:)

However (hehehe) although you did not put question marks after affirmative sentences (thanks for that) i can remember at least 1 place where there was a real question and .. no question mark after it lol . But that may also have been the Ren'py..

However2 (hehehe2) there's also something that can really not be in the Renpy version only: at the beginning of the game when Stacy tells her life story, she mentions that a girl friend encouraged her and she got drunk at some party and became a woman that night with some muscular guy. That was BEFORE meeting Jason. But then at the job when they play that game where she sits on the lap of the guys if they guess right something about her, Marcus says that she must have been a virgin when she married and she confirms she was.. This has nothing to do with grammar but you may wish to check because, for some of us, that's an important detail :)

Here the proof (but also from the Ren'py version):
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"your is" is not valid English. So yes, also there is no valid contraction form for it. However, "yours is" is valid. That said, I'd say the common typo regarding "your" is your/you're. I have no idea if Deacon has made such a typo at any point in the dialog or not, but perhaps that is what you were thinking of when you originally mentioned the typos.

As for whether she was or was not a virgin, those images alone do not prove anything. As was already mentioned, there is the possibility that at least one statement is a lie. But even if they are all true, you'd need to include proof of a timeline. (i.e. When did the loss take place; when did she meet Jason; when did she and Jason begin their relationship/become exclusive) Also, as for "starting her relationship out with a lie" if she was not a virgin... this is a conversation had with Marcus, not Jason. Whether or not that statement is true only says whether or not she lied to Marcus. It in no way tells us what Jason thinks/knows/was told.
 
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Whats Your's " I'll have a cheeseburger and and order of fry's "

Whats Yours " I'll have a cheeseburger and and order of fry's "

I don't mind either way, I am just really glad to get such a quality piece of software to enjoy ;) So you can use your's, or yours or their's or theirs, I don't have a problem at all interpreting what you are meaning, and I doubt anyone else does either.

Love what you are doing in this work of yours.
 
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As for whether she was or was not a virgin, those images alone do not prove anything. As was already mentioned, there is the possibility that at least one statement is a lie. But even if they are all true, you'd need to include proof of a timeline. (i.e. When did the loss take place; when did she meet Jason; when did she and Jason begin their relationship/become exclusive) Also, as for "starting her relationship out with a lie" if she was not a virgin... this is a conversation had with Marcus, not Jason. Whether or not that statement is true only says whether or not she lied to Marcus. It in no way tells us what Jason thinks/knows/was told.
The timeline is right.. start the game again and you will see that story there BEFORE meeting Jason. And no, it's not a "typo"... As for that being a lie, where have you ever seen a MC starting to introduce themselves to the reader by telling a lie about themselves?

Let me give you my understanding of this little problem: As far as i can see the dev started this novel with the Jason-cuck route in mind. And as i said before, for THAT route a non virgin Stacy would fit better. That's why we get that story at the very beginning because as he started to work on this, he had only the cuck route in mind (remember also what a small cock Jason had at the beginning, perfect size for a cuck, and how many people criticized this- the posts are still there on the first pages of this thread)..

Seeing the comments on the first pages here (and probably also on Patreon) the dev decided to add a second route where Jason is not a heavy cuck or at least is not being humiliated as such.. And where he has a "normal sized" cock.

For THIS route a virgin Stacy would be better, because this is a "romantic-sharing" path if i may say so :) and it is based on love and trust. So while developing this route he probably felt that it was good for Stacy to declare that she was a virgin when she met Jason, and she did so during that game. And the dev probably forgot or did not find it necessary to modify that sentence at the beginning where she says how and when she became a woman (which was BEFORE meeting Jason) and adapt it to THIS route..

So we have that statement at the beginning which fits well in the cuck route (I suppose it fits well there.. i did not play that route) and the virgin Stacy for the non cuck route.

As it was mentioned, most people would not even notice that discrepancy. The only reason why i noticed it is because i started to play the game NOW, in version 0.70. So i read at the beginning that she was not virgin and then, a few play hours later i read that she was .. that's confusing, but ONLY for ppl like me who start playing NOW. For everybody else this is no matter at all..

And in any case, virgin or not, as I also said before, this is a very good game/novel which went directly into my Top 5 of "sharing" games together with TAC, JOHN, Anna and Angelica.
 
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The timeline is right.. start the game again and you will see that story there BEFORE meeting Jason. And no, it's not a "typo"... As for that being a lie, where have you ever seen a MC starting to introduce themselves to the reader by telling a lie about themselves?

Let me give you my understanding of this little problem: As far as i can see the dev started this novel with the Jason-cuck route in mind. And as i said before, for THAT route a non virgin Stacy would fit better. That's why we get that story at the very beginning because as he started to work on this, he had only the cuck route in mind (remember also what a small cock Jason had at the beginning, perfect size for a cuck, and how many people criticized this- the posts are still there on the first pages of this thread)..

Seeing the comments on the first pages here (and probably also on Patreon) the dev decided to add a second route where Jason is not a heavy cuck or at least is not being humiliated as such.. And where he has a "normal sized" cock.

For THIS route a virgin Stacy would be better, because this is a "romantic-sharing" path if i may say so :) and it is based on love and trust. So while developing this route he probably felt that it was good for Stacy to declare that she was a virgin when she met Jason, and she did so during that game. And the dev probably forgot or did not find it necessary to modify that sentence at the beginning where she says how and when she became a woman (which was BEFORE meeting Jason) and adapt it to THIS route..

So we have that statement at the beginning which fits well in the cuck route (I suppose it fits well there.. i did not play that route) and the virgin Stacy for the non cuck route.

As it was mentioned, most people would not even notice that discrepancy. The only reason why i noticed it is because i started to play the game NOW, in version 0.70. So i read at the beginning that she was not virgin and then, a few play hours later i read that she was .. that's confusing, but ONLY for ppl like me who start playing NOW. For everybody else this is no matter at all..

And in any case, virgin or not, as I also said before, this is a very good game/novel which went directly into my Top 5 of "sharing" games together with TAC, JOHN, Anna and Angelica.
Don’t forget Project Myriam or atleast give her a try
 
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