MightGuy2024

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Cave scene is only if you have successfully gotten patch 1.1 working and should unlock automatically at the end of the Queen's POV story. If you haven't gotten the patch working, probably simplest to just search for a video of it somewhere, it's not a long scene and may not be worth the effort of getting the v1.1 patch installed if you were still having issues with that.
Yes. That's what I did. I download the patch but it's not working. Oh well. I hope NTRMAN makes a comic on her after becoming the goblin queen.
 

ehendu

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I'd rather play as the goblin. Seeing that character selection screen and no goblin almost seems like a deliberate oversight. It's weird how many good looking games are rendered unenjoyable (in my opinion) just by the fact that you don't get to play as the obvious protagonist.
Think that'd be a problem of the genre then. While I'm sure someone will debate these terms exact meanings:

  • Netorare: MC is largely unaware or secretly aware of their lover/love interest/emotionally important character being sexually stolen and corrupted by a character that is not controlled by you the player.
  • Netorase: Similar to the above, but generally specifically MC and their lover, both of whom are aware of MC's cuckoldry fetish and have chosen to knowingly embrace it. MC helps their lover get fucked by other characters and lover may in turn tell MC about their sexual escapades with others.
  • Netori: This is the specific flavor of NTR you are likely interested in, where it is from the perspective of the character doing the stealing and corrupting of someone else's lover/love interest/emotionally important character. In the case of a game, this would mean you are controlling the actions of this character.
Currently, you'd need to really check comments/genre spoiler to tell which flavor of NTR a game fits closest, as the only tag currently available to filter is just "netorare", though that is planned to change sometime eventually. Also, the above are only approximate "definitions" as I've understood them. They also don't really fully explain something like "You play the PoV of the one being corrupted". Though those would still probably be one of the first two. Netori is perhaps the most clear cut definition of "this is the PoV of the one doing the cucking and corrupting."
 

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I'd rather play as the goblin. Seeing that character selection screen and no goblin almost seems like a deliberate oversight. It's weird how many good looking games are rendered unenjoyable (in my opinion) just by the fact that you don't get to play as the obvious protagonist.
that is the purpose of NTR.
 
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P4rz1v4l

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Think that'd be a problem of the genre then. While I'm sure someone will debate these terms exact meanings:

  • Netorare: MC is largely unaware or secretly aware of their lover/love interest/emotionally important character being sexually stolen and corrupted by a character that is not controlled by you the player.
  • Netorase: Similar to the above, but generally specifically MC and their lover, both of whom are aware of MC's cuckoldry fetish and have chosen to knowingly embrace it. MC helps their lover get fucked by other characters and lover may in turn tell MC about their sexual escapades with others.
  • Netori: This is the specific flavor of NTR you are likely interested in, where it is from the perspective of the character doing the stealing and corrupting of someone else's lover/love interest/emotionally important character. In the case of a game, this would mean you are controlling the actions of this character.
Currently, you'd need to really check comments/genre spoiler to tell which flavor of NTR a game fits closest, as the only tag currently available to filter is just "netorare", though that is planned to change sometime eventually. Also, the above are only approximate "definitions" as I've understood them. They also don't really fully explain something like "You play the PoV of the one being corrupted". Though those would still probably be one of the first two. Netori is perhaps the most clear cut definition of "this is the PoV of the one doing the cucking and corrupting."
Yes, personally I'm most interested in Netori. It's just really disappointing seeing what looks like interesting story and artwork for countless games and then of course it is "ruined" at least for me. By not getting to play as the character who actually gets to have fun.

I have a similar disappointment from a lot of female protagonist games because I'd rather play as the dude fucking her. But that's a lot more understandable because a lot of stories only make sense told from the perspective of the woman and obviously plenty of women want to play games too and put themselves in her shoes. Third Crisis is a great example of a game that I'd still enjoy even though it has a female protagonist. Whereas I don't think I can name a single Netorare game (at least with it being unavoidable and the main focus of the gameplay) that I would find enjoyable.

I guess my point is that there's just too many netorare games and not enough netori or netorare(optional) games. Because it seems like the best looking games for what I'm interested in all turn out to be netorare, and thus become unplayable for me. (I have given it a shot and I just can't enjoy it.)
 
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ehendu

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I guess my point is that there's just too many netorare games and not enough netori or netorare(optional) games.
In general I'd agree. I think there's probably some more pragmatic reasons for this though. Porn games already have a massively reduced audience, further reduced by game genre and kinks, and as a type of porn, most things outside of the immediate porn tend towards more of an after thought when it comes to polishing them up.

So netorare games are already focused on the netorare, so when it comes time to making it optional it's little more than a token effort. The devs and writers never intended for you to avoid the NTR, so very little effort is put into the route to avoid it. Maybe you get some scenes, but they tend towards hyper-vanilla and few and far between as the game creators just never cared to spend the time and money on them. Conversely, games that aren't NTR focused and could reasonably include NTR as a penalty for certain actions tend not to because since they aren't NTR focused, people who the game is targeting will probably not find the NTR penalty enjoyable and that risks alienating them. So I'd wager the number of people who don't mind NTR enough they'd still enjoy a game where it's a penalty for losing are probably small enough that you aren't going to find a lot of creators who work on something like that.

Conversely, in netori, those likely tend to be rare as I'd guess a lot of the audience that would enjoy the game is more in it for the Corruption aspect, not the "stealing someone else's lover" aspect. Sure, they might enjoy doing that, but they're more interested in just the corruption aspect. So games that do netori are often games that could just as easily be Corruption/Trainer games if you're following the male PoV.

TL;DR: both netori and well fleshed out and sexy NTR avoidable are niche enough content that most people who are going to make the games either don't care enough about them to implement, or are focused on making money and so need to appeal to a broader audience that is likely happier to just leave them out altogether. Until the new tags are implemented and you can filter by "netori", probably best looking for "Corruption" games with "Male Protagonist" and "Trainer" games.
 
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What a annoying game! It won't let me continue from the queen chapter just because I missed a scene in the prince chapter because I didn't choose the right dialog. There's no way I would have realized this the first time I played, the game doesn't tell me that, and why are there dialog options in this game if it's going to prevent me from continuing the game? It's supposed to be a kinetic novel. I don't understand why the developer felt the need to separate the chapters within the same game, it was so unnecessary and ridiculous.
 
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What a annoying game! It won't let me continue from the queen chapter just because I missed a scene in the prince chapter because I didn't choose the right dialog. There's no way I would have realized this the first time I played, the game doesn't tell me that, and why are there dialog options in this game if it's going to prevent me from continuing the game? It's supposed to be a kinetic novel. I don't understand why the developer felt the need to separate the chapters within the same game, it was so unnecessary and ridiculous.
just skip the dialog lol..its not that hard
 
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This game is not like VNs made with Ren'Py. Even the dialog skipping system is broken. Sometimes you have to click the button more than once to skip the just one dialog.
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All you need to do, is literally click the skip button once(hold if ur on pc) and it fast forward everything, even the scenes itself
 

ehendu

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This game is not like VNs made with Ren'Py. Even the dialog skipping system is broken. Sometimes you have to click the button more than once to skip the just one dialog.
It may require ~8 clicks of the skip button to skip through the entire Prince's route as new scenes and all do break the skip, but that's not terribly unusual for VNs in general. Ren'Py does sometimes give you a setting option to ignore all scene breaks and unread text and just keep skipping until a choice appears, but I'm not sure that's always the case for Ren'Py either.

In total it takes maybe 3 minutes to skip through then entire route. That's neither much of a time commitment to work through and collect scenes you missed nor is it remotely close to a "broken dialog skipping system".
 
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Same, bro. I'd give my neck up to the slayer if it meant I could screw over the royal family by defiling the queen with my massive, bumpy, green mind-break stick.
 
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