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looks like the new build is out for patrons so hope it shows up soon on here
Build 1103 is available for patrons
This version takes us through Wednesday, June 20, day 80 of the game.
Apart from the new content that simply cover the events of the day, it also incorporates a new mechanism which is part of a wider plan to tailor the game to people's individual tastes.
Up until now, there was a simple "Vanilla/Kinky" option at the start of the game, but a new game would give a wider range of ranging options from none (0) to extreme (3).
Loading a pre-existing game that doesn't already have a custom level will default to Moderate (level 2).
You can override this by hitting Escape, selecting "Enter a code" then entering "Fetishes" as previously described. You'll be prompted to enter the new level and you should save.
As I mentioned, this is part of a range of measures which also include simple questions like Lois asking you about personal grooming (of pubic hair), the survey Kari asks you to complete and other in-game choices such as when you decide to order certain toys for Lois or not.
It may take me a while to build on that, but it's my sincere desire to give people (as far as possible) the experience they're hoping for and you'll find extensive changes have been implemented to existing content to that end, but without sacrificing anything. I've done my best to avoid breaking anything - but let me know of any problems that arise.
I will also say that this is a fantasy - I think many of us harbour "darker" thoughts late at night and that's when I do much of my work on the game (it's 4.30AM right now). Many women have rape fantasies, for example, but that's not to say for even a moment they actually want those fantasies fulfilled.
The game, I think, is best played with MC being a reasonably decent guy, knocking up Kari and her sisters, and enjoying the company of some of the other girls. But, as I've said before, sometimes it's fun to play the bad guy, or at least to some extent.
Anyway, in this build you'll (hopefully) be entertained by the various goings on with Avril, Kayla, Mallory, Rei, Sylvie and Vanessa as well as the main girls.
Lots more to come and, with luck, a quicker turnaround for the next release!
He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....Just copying togs'You must be registered to see the linksas it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:
We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.
I mean, there is a certain charm to his everything-and-the-kitchen-sink approach: A first-time dev who follows his enthusiasms and is willing to experiment and throw in new systems as they strike him: Money, machismo, lust, fatigue, the phone and calendar, that kink survey that didn't go anywhere, and now a miniature Kinsey scale for how kinky you want the game.He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....
Yes, he has made it much more complicated, but it is because his fans wanted slutification, and he tried to give options to all, and didn't want to leave this game to only one type of fans.He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....
Not the reason at all for all this VN's issues.Yes, he has made it much more complicated, but it is because his fans wanted slutification, and he tried to give options to all, and didn't want to leave this game to only one type of fans.
Yeah my worry is....three times now....he has responded with he will do this, do that, fix the other, hears the complaints....I mean, there is a certain charm to his everything-and-the-kitchen-sink approach: A first-time dev who follows his enthusiasms and is willing to experiment and throw in new systems as they strike him: Money, machismo, lust, fatigue, the phone and calendar, that kink survey that didn't go anywhere, and now a miniature Kinsey scale for how kinky you want the game.
I don't think those systems have done much good for the game broadly speaking and a few of them now seem vestigial, but I can see how they keep the dev's life interesting.
A simple choice-driven VN with logical branching would definitely be cleaner, sure.
He was getting lots of bugs when he tried to release an update and the previous choices and it still showed the other scene was a big issue in this sub, and many vanilla fans hated the degradation route in this game, and they were forced to select the character and play.Not the reasona t all for all this VN's issues.
Thanks for the great info, and I agree with your point. I'm very much into sharing, swinging, sluitification, public sex and nudity, breast expansion, impregnation, lactation and other things that might be more than some are looking for, but at the same time I have very little to no interest in anything do do with BDSM, dominance, pain, humiliation, or anything along those lines. So I guess we'll see where it all goes.Just copying togs'You must be registered to see the linksas it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:
We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.
Many fragile snowflakes on F95 hated it. The slutification was NOT the problem this VN had. Neither were the other systems (as pointless as many of them were) either.and many vanilla fans hated the degradation route in this game
Yeah, sharing is not usually a dark path 99% of the time. I do sharing games all the time. I would not call sharing dark. DArk is cheating, hard BDSM, rape, etc.Just copying togs'You must be registered to see the linksas it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:
We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.
Yes he had issues with the horny meter, and he added a phone payment feature and calls and money feature when he has lots of money, there were multiple loops in the game, and he also tried the code thing after the interviews to change the game content he left multiple things that's true but he did what his paying customers wanted, but wasn't that due to mods installed or something, I have redone my save for this game multiple times. He should have kept it a simple VN with multiple choices would have been the easiest but he is learning, who knows someday he might even become a big dev and continue and become his main source of income.Many fragile snowflakes on F95 hated it. The slutification was NOT the problem this VN had. Neither were the other systems (as pointless as many of them were) either.
His inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.
Exactly.I don't get the extreme kink levels idea. How is that going to be quantified? Someone may prefer 95% vanilla but enjoy the milking scenes, or public nudity, or whatever individual kink. Just going by "extremity level" seems like it may not work very well. Someone can be into hardcore BDSM but not into sharing. Or vice versa.
Just copying togs'You must be registered to see the linksas it pertains to some of the recent discussions on here:
We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.
Agreed, and echoing others this calls the ire of different groups of players - in fact I'd bet the majority of enthusiasts for each of those categories DONT like the other categories.I don't get the extreme kink levels idea. How is that going to be quantified? Someone may prefer 95% vanilla but enjoy the milking scenes, or public nudity, or whatever individual kink. Just going by "extremity level" seems like it may not work very well. Someone can be into hardcore BDSM but not into sharing. Or vice versa.
I disagree - the functions and original code is impressive for an avn, the problem is he just doesn't use it most of the timeHis inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.
The potential for something like NTR has been in the game for a long time. At least there was the threat with Randy and Kari. Which I think was in the first year of development.Many fragile snowflakes on F95 hated it. The slutification was NOT the problem this VN had. Neither were the other systems (as pointless as many of them were) either.
His inability to actually code as complicated as he wants to is a big problem yes. This led to scenes happening that should not. Making multiple choices to lead to scenes that upset a small minority of people is a fucking them problem, not a dev problem! The multitude of LI's with no content, the story going nowhere, the multiude of plots, routes and paths that were forgotten about, left behind or purely ignored is a far bigger issue and complaint of most people.
The dev doesn't do traditional change-logs but it covers the next day in the game (day 80) as well as the new content mechanics: "This version takes us through Wednesday, June 20, day 80 of the game. Apart from the new content that simply cover the events of the day, it also incorporates a new mechanism which is part of a wider plan to tailor the game to people's individual tastes. (...) Anyway, in this build you'll (hopefully) be entertained by the various goings on with Avril, Kayla, Mallory, Rei, Sylvie and Vanessa as well as the main girls."is there any changelogs for the update?