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xapican

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I can see why he's annoyed I am too tbh
I only want Kari not other girls
I have always absolutely hated forced sex scenes in these games.

The game started out so good I thought the focus would mostly be about Kari
It is called the roommate after all.
But I feel like other girls are getting more screen time.
for the threesomes not to happen you just have to turn down the other girls as far as I know, neither Aria nor the "Sisters" will have intercourse with you, although, the vast mayority here are Harem ( or whatever you want to call it)fans so I don't know how far togs has developed that path.
 

Emelex

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Just tried an unmodded save, still plenty of issues that don't line up. Examples being (on build 0.10.07):

In London...Lois not wanting to be another side girl
On Plane...conversation about other women etc.
Maddie at Karaoke night asking if you're Kari's BF that she heard so much about.
Kari still treating as you as if you're a thing...when you definitely are not.
Day 74: Talking with Lois after seeing Kayla....still assumes we're fucking everything with 2 legs and a pair of breasts (which at this point, cannot be excused on the old plot premise at all).

All these are on a Lois Solo run...not done anything with anyone else. I get that the nature of the game has changed significantly since it's inception where Kari was supposed to be the LI and Lois the Mistress/side piece...however, if going to allow for 'solo runs'...then it's a little jarring when being referred to as things you're not...having done things you haven't etc. Not terribly important in the grand scheme of things though I admit, it is still annoying and a little shoddy though.

Another would be (unrelated to above), even if told Ashley you'll see what you can do for her, every time you go you still get the 'options conversation' regarding can we talk (and then the subsequent arrangement conversation and options).

Still love this btw but just something to maybe try and fix in the dialogue at some point in the future.
I'm sorry, but I'm just a modder. So if you've found something wrong with the base game, I can't fix it myself. I'd need to wait until togs fixes it and then incorporate those fixes into my mod. Otherwise, I'd write fixes (without the ability to render new images for them like togs can), then togs might write his own version of those fixes, and then JokerLeader might add a version of togs' fixes to his mod, and then I'd have to rewrite my fixes to better comply with their fixes, and that's far too much hassle than I'm willing to go through to fix a game route I never play. Not that I don't see the appeal in it - Lois is my favorite character - there's just little point in mentioning me by my username and user number and altering me to the problem when it originates with the base game.
 

Maviarab

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I'm sorry, but I'm just a modder. So if you've found something wrong with the base game, I can't fix it myself. I'd need to wait until togs fixes it and then incorporate those fixes into my mod. Otherwise, I'd write fixes (without the ability to render new images for them like togs can), then togs might write his own version of those fixes, and then JokerLeader might add a version of togs' fixes to his mod, and then I'd have to rewrite my fixes to better comply with their fixes, and that's far too much hassle than I'm willing to go through to fix a game route I never play. Not that I don't see the appeal in it - Lois is my favorite character - there's just little point in mentioning me by my username and user number and altering me to the problem when it originates with the base game.
I only tagged you Em as I know you do do some fixes and extra stuff etc, in case it was something simple for you to add to the other stuff you do as ultimately it's just flag/dialogue fixes :)
 
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SonsOfLiberty

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Some news...

Sorry, it's a long one...

I got a message from someone yesterday that raised a couple of points I thought were worth addressing to a wider audience, rather than replying just to him.

The first was about a discrepancy on the day of Cassie's birthday. Lois would comment on you having a thing for screwing girls on their birthdays, which didn't make sense if you hadn't shagged Kayla after the fourth of July party. So I will add some conditional text and vary that as needed.

Basically, if you fuck Kayla, she gets pregnant. It was a deliberate decision based on the fallacy that "if I pull out, she won't get pregnant".

Kayla will continue, as will Rei. They're mostly in the game for comedic effect and as catalysts for other things, like when they comment on rumours about Lois fucking Tim or not having her bikini bottom on. I recently added the water cooler chats as another means to the same end.

The same person also asked about whether it was a realistic proposition to not be involved with Kari or follow the having kids with the sisters path. From the outset I intended that Kari would be the main love interest. She's 100% my creation and I obviously think she's lovely but there are people who don't seem to think "she's all that".

So I've actually played through the game without dating Kari several times recently and found some discrepancies that arise from that, and I'm working on resolving those.

Some of you may remember a big fuss about the storyline with Randy early on. There were all sorts of accusations of NTR, Kari was a fucking whore, etc, etc.
The idea that she would be unfaithful was NOT the intention of the storyline, it was to introduce Randy as this predatory character who took advantage of the girls who worked under him. Anyway, some of the reactions were so over-the-top that I caved to the pressure and wrapped it up faster than originally intended.

I kind of regretted that in retrospect and brought Randy back to kidnap Cassie and stab MC, and now it seems he's on the loose again!
Anyway, as a riposte to the haters, there is (or will be) a corruption path for Kari for those who've chosen not to get romantically involved with her.
I've also had negative feedback about the "dark paths" for Lois and Kiki, and I have to admit that the handling of those was somewhat clumsy, seeming to come out of nowhere and being inconsistent with MC's past behaviour.

But I do want to keep those options, although I'm doing my best to make it easier for people to avoid them if that's not to their taste.
There are a couple of reasons for that. One is that there are is are a number of people who do want the "darker" content and, to be honest, several of those have contributed generously at a difficult time (with no work coming in because of the writers and actors being on strike).

But the other thing, as many actors will tell you, is that sometimes it's more fun to play the bad guy, especially if they're being cast against type.
So while I do plan to continue to provide a wide range of ways to play, I'll also pay more attention to keeping things consistent.
I got interrupted while I was drafting this. I know there was something else I wanted to mention, but can't think for the life of me what it was! I guess it can't have been that important!

Anyway, keep your thoughts and comments coming. I do pay attention to them and sometimes I even make changes!
 
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sagerock820

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Interesting thoughts by Togs. Going into the game I thought Kari would be my #1. I liked her but it took awhile before things started happening. In the meantime, I fell for Lois. I love Lois. Sorry, Togs. Nothing against Kari, I still like her also. She's my fave behind Lois. Also I've played the dark path with Lois and it is fun. I'll still keep playing it going forward but it won't be my canon path with her. And I also liked Kiki's dark path.
 
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BlagartTosser

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I'm getting a bug - I just had sex with Cassie for the first time, right after I bought her shoes, and it says:


```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/functions.rpy", line 1297, in <module>
ValueError: u'Rejected' is not in list

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "ch45.rpyc", line 1508, in script call
File "functions.rpyc", line 1289, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/functions.rpy", line 1297, in <module>
ValueError: u'Rejected' is not in list

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
The Roommate 0.10.07
Tue Jan 16 01:27:04 2024
```

I tried searching the forum but I didn't see anything about this. I don't have any of the WT mods installed. Any thoughts?
 

Emelex

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I'm getting a bug - I just had sex with Cassie for the first time, right after I bought her shoes, and it says:


```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/functions.rpy", line 1297, in <module>
ValueError: u'Rejected' is not in list

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "ch45.rpyc", line 1508, in script call
File "functions.rpyc", line 1289, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/functions.rpy", line 1297, in <module>
ValueError: u'Rejected' is not in list

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
The Roommate 0.10.07
Tue Jan 16 01:27:04 2024
```

I tried searching the forum but I didn't see anything about this. I don't have any of the WT mods installed. Any thoughts?
I just looked in the script files, and I see the problem. "Rejected" is listed only once in the whole game. In the coffee shop, if Ashley asks you to be her sugar daddy and you respond, "No, that's not really what I was hoping for.", then ashley.status = "Rejected". As I understand it, the checkrelationships function is programmed to find weird statuses that aren't on the list like that one and move them from the character's status variable to the character's notes variable in order to prevent errors like the kind you're having right now. I assume togs must have either missed that one or forgotten to put it on the relationship list. I wrote a bugfix for it while I was formulating this reply, but that will only ensure it is fixed in the next version of my mod. I don't really have an easy way of fixing it in the base game since I only play and edit it with my mod. You could extract the file from scripts.rpa yourself with Game Resources Viewer, edit it, and add it to your game directory to fix it.
functions.rpy, lines 1077-1084: copy those lines and paste them just under the originals, then change "Help" and "Needs help" to "Rejected" in the copied lines.
I haven't fully tested it yet, but that should fix it.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Why does the game force you to basically cheat on Kari with Lois if you're on a solo Kari path?

By this I mean if you're on a solo Kari path, your resting lust will be kept regularly low by her sexing you, and you won't have other tools to raise it like coffee shopgirl or Lois. In turn, this means that on the Ch37 morning - the following interaction with Kari:
Python:
        scene wake up kari-03 with dissolve

        "Kari climbs on top of you."

        if lust < 300:

            $ tempint = 9 - int( lust / 30 )

            $ temp = tempint * 10

            $ lust += temp
is basically guaranteed to increase lust to a point where with no decisions able to alter it (absent cheating on Kari more), which in turn dumps you on the "dreamblowjob" at Ch39 start.
 

Deathcon1000

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I recently finished my first playthrough and avoided most of the mistress/sub/slut options in the game (I'll get back to those on a later run). I've scanned through a lot of the pages in this thread looking for answers, but just to get a definitive one, are Lois and Kari the only 2 girls right now that have an option for being a non exclusive girlfriend, or did I maybe miss some?
 

BGRW2020

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Seems you are moving this game from a choices game to a no-choice game, Kari is moved to become a corrupted women having lesbian sex with aria whether or not the mc wants it as a threesome. The crap with the greenfield doctor seems to be again with no choices at all - please tell me if the cult down below will be forced on the MC? Will Kari be finally rid of the adult bar? Will the MC be able to say no to anyone he does not want to have sex with.
And lastly why when Kari starts to yell at the MC for being forced to invest or get financing for the stupid bar is he not able to tell Kari to leave and end the relationship if she wants to continue struting half naked in front of drunk creeps
Your story is sliding down hill
 

Maviarab

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Why does the game force you to basically cheat on Kari with Lois if you're on a solo Kari path?

By this I mean if you're on a solo Kari path, your resting lust will be kept regularly low by her sexing you, and you won't have other tools to raise it like coffee shopgirl or Lois. In turn, this means that on the Ch37 morning - the following interaction with Kari:
Python:
        scene wake up kari-03 with dissolve

        "Kari climbs on top of you."

        if lust < 300:

            $ tempint = 9 - int( lust / 30 )

            $ temp = tempint * 10

            $ lust += temp
is basically guaranteed to increase lust to a point where with no decisions able to alter it (absent cheating on Kari more), which in turn dumps you on the "dreamblowjob" at Ch39 start.
You did something wrong then Johnny...easy to stay loyal and faithful to any girl if you so choose. never had a problem with any solo girl run in my many numerous saves. Unmodded or mod and if mod, which one, Jokers or Emelex's?
I recently finished my first playthrough and avoided most of the mistress/sub/slut options in the game (I'll get back to those on a later run). I've scanned through a lot of the pages in this thread looking for answers, but just to get a definitive one, are Lois and Kari the only 2 girls right now that have an option for being a non exclusive girlfriend, or did I maybe miss some?
No, Cassie also has the option but difficult to trigger and so does Kiki later when she joins but picking her option doesn't really do anything currently until togs does some more fixing of her route/script.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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You did something wrong then Johnny...easy to stay loyal and faithful to any girl if you so choose. never had a problem with any solo girl run in my many numerous saves. Unmodded or mod and if mod, which one, Jokers or Emelex's?
No mods, I explained clearly what the coding issue is. The CH39 start bj is automatic with over 200 lust.
 
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