Maviarab

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WHat do you need to reach that point? the role playing? Can you give me some tips? Thanks in advance!
Do you even read anything? Like my reply to him saying he was wrong about that whole interraction?

There is no roleplay...to get the scene, reject Kari twice (do not be in any relationship with her at all..none)....when at bar, ask where Kari is, go look for, investigate the back room.

I was still forced to see the threesome with that other chick though.
And again, if that happened it's bad code due to something else. I've never had that happen in any save when I said goodnight and sent her home (this may be tied to whether or not you fuck her at the party or not...not entirely sure).
 
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Maviarab

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I don't think togs is coming back to this site he hasn't been here since the 1st of February.
Perhaps unlikely. He keeps spouting the same rubbish about fixing stuff and looking into stuff on Patreon....heard it all before. One could argue can you blame him for staying away from here but at the same time, any vitriol he gets here is entirely of his own making.

I'll defend this where and when it needs defending (see last few posts for example) but there is a hell of a lot wrong with it, so much bad code and so many issues with unresolved plots, characters etc etc that I will deride it and not defend it when required. Togs likes to think he is a far more competant progamer than he actually is in reality.

He needs to start sorting shit out, getting it working properly and paring down what's happing in the story. I'm one of this VN's biggest proponents but even I'm reaching my limit of patience with it.
 

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Perhaps unlikely. He keeps spouting the same rubbish about fixing stuff and looking into stuff on Patreon....heard it all before. One could argue can you blame him for staying away from here but at the same time, any vitriol he gets here is entirely of his own making.

I'll defend this where and when it needs defending (see last few posts for example) but there is a hell of a lot wrong with it, so much bad code and so many issues with unresolved plots, characters etc etc that I will deride it and not defend it when required. Togs likes to think he is a far more competant progamer than he actually is in reality.

He needs to start sorting shit out, getting it working properly and paring down what's happing in the story. I'm one of this VN's biggest proponents but even I'm reaching my limit of patience with it.
It feels to me like togs is throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I respect that he's trying to please as many people as possible but that's only going to turn even more people away imo.
 

internet_says

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I don't think togs is coming back to this site he hasn't been here since the 1st of February.
I wouldn't put my dick in a wasps nest or walk into a buzzsaw either. There are a few comments every release about what is good and then a whole bunch of people complaining about everything little thing like togs shot their dog saying they are never going to play it again but next update they are right back saying the same shit.

It doesn't feel like criticism but just alot of concerted hate or people angry they aren't specifically being catered to.
 

Repetition

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Do you even read anything? Like my reply to him saying he was wrong about that whole interraction?

There is no roleplay...to get the scene, reject Kari twice (do not be in any relationship with her at all..none)....when at bar, ask where Kari is, go look for, investigate the back room.


And again, if that happened it's bad code due to something else. I've never had that happen in any save when I said goodnight and sent her home (this may be tied to whether or not you fuck her at the party or not...not entirely sure).
The roleplaying is in one of the mods, and warns you heavily that NTR will exist. Don't blame the original game for that please.
 

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WHat do you need to reach that point? the role playing? Can you give me some tips? Thanks in advance!
I would have to play through it again as I don't keep exact a -> b of how I played through.

Though I think this is probably an 'English' issue on my part and that I used the term wrong (English isn't my first or even 2nd language).

Again, the term 'role playing' was not the main point of my post anyway.
 
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No matter if bang her or not Kayla gets pregnant
That is probably a bug, if you have sex with Kayla you're supposed to get her pregnant according to the code. If you pull out and spray on her butt it's even shown that the girl under her (in a threesome scene) that you left a little in Kayla
 

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That is probably a bug, if you have sex with Kayla you're supposed to get her pregnant according to the code.
50/50 chance actually according to Togs and not actually triggered yet.

Please stop stating things that are blatantly untrue.
 
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Creeper666

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I know in the console command you can change money but is there a command to change energy, and if there is could somebody post the command to change energy, seem to always have low energy
 

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Well to clarify, the only way to get that scene involves 4 specific choices.

You cannot be in any type of relationship with Kari at all. None. This requires rejecting her...twice. Twice.

In this situation, yes, she will do things in the back room of the bar. To see this scene, requires 2 specific choices. It is not roleplay, you are not involved with her in any capacity (so, it is not actually NTR at all to be factual and pedantic).
Doesn't matter. It should still be tagged as such. Avoidable or not that has always been the rule, but we'll have people crying about having the tag added
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Also, when more characters increasingly have the ability to be every type of thing, they stop being as interesting as there's nothing unique about them other than the character design, and initial background, everything else is just placeholders. Kari looks like shit now anyhow.

I've said it before, it feels like togs wants to jam damn near every fetish he can think of into the game thinking it will widen the appeal of the game, and so almost all of the content related to that is increasingly half-assed, incoherent and ruining the appeal of multiple characters.

There are multiple characters that have hardly any content or background set up who could fill the niche that the whales are pushing to have for Kari/Lois. They could easily have let Kiki be all about that but likely some donor with an Asian fetish wants to impose some random from a hotel as the new PA who immediately acts like a whore. :HideThePain:

PS: People are being pissy about the game and fence sitting about dropping it because of how good it was in the beginning (in their view), and how increasingly dogshit/blatantly its being altered to appease a few people. Even a number of his donors are bitching, or togs themselves wouldnt be whining about the complaints people have.
 

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Not sure if this has been answered already but with the WT plus mod when talking to Lois about lactomax the option saying she would be perfect with huge tits it says delayed by 6 dummy events, what is that exactly
 
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cat9876

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is there any way to NOT have cassie in the game at all? i mean seriously, whats up with the author forcing this character in the story? i tried every combo i could during the first selection processes till i finally got one that doesnt include her, personally id prefer to actually just have the choices you make be relevant, like choosing A leads to A rather then A leading to B. anyway, im on the second selection process with bree, carolyn, chloe, and vanessa, but it seems there is no choice combo i can choose that will exclude her from appearing. is there any way we could get a pole up to see if people want the choices to more directly matter, or if they would rather the choices have choices that indirectly change things in unforeseeable ways?
 

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is there any way to NOT have cassie in the game at all? i mean seriously, whats up with the author forcing this character in the story?
Hiring her should be avoidable, I haven't hired her on my playthrough. She'll still appear along with everyone else for group scenes like the communal night out and the barbecue, but if she turns up for work at the reception desk without you having hired her, it sounds like a bug.
 

Gojii

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is there any way to NOT have cassie in the game at all? i mean seriously, whats up with the author forcing this character in the story? i tried every combo i could during the first selection processes till i finally got one that doesnt include her, personally id prefer to actually just have the choices you make be relevant, like choosing A leads to A rather then A leading to B. anyway, im on the second selection process with bree, carolyn, chloe, and vanessa, but it seems there is no choice combo i can choose that will exclude her from appearing. is there any way we could get a pole up to see if people want the choices to more directly matter, or if they would rather the choices have choices that indirectly change things in unforeseeable ways?
You think that's bad, wait until later where you are given "options" and you get railroaded to be given the least qualified one that you (likely) have zero interest in giving it to at all. (I will continue to hate on the Kiki content, idgaf. :KEK: )
 

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A new public post from patreon

Never a dull moment...

An hour ago
Somehow or other I managed to trap my hand while moving some furniture just over a week ago. I didn't actually break anything but I was bleeding like a stuck pig and it swelled up like, um... something really swollen.
So I lost about a week in terms of doing the 3D stuff, but I was able to use some of that time productively in that I played the game start-to-finish a number of times trying to get a feel for how other people experience it.
It's hard to be objective about your own work but having done my best to play a "middle path" I have to concede that it does feel like there's a strong tilt towards the so-called "Dark Paths". That's a term I came up with for want of a better way of describing the kind of content that isn't necessarily to everyone's taste.

So maybe it's time for a confession or two. I'm a shade over sixty - a fact that continues to amaze me although not in a terribly good way! I've had more than my fair share of intimate relationships - particularly before I got married in my mid-thirties.
BUT... my personal experience is pretty vanilla - fantasy and reality are worlds apart... I haven't tasted breast milk since I was maybe a year old and it has zero appeal to me in real life, but I enjoy it as a fantasy element in the game. The same goes for anal sex - I can't think of a single woman I've slept with that I'd have ever thought would have been particularly receptive to that idea. I know plenty of people (including some female friends) that say it's greatest thing since sliced bread, but it's a late-night fantasy rather than I would actually want to engage in.

Admittedly, I did once handcuff a girlfriend but she had been a very naughty girl.
That, vibrators and blindfolds are about the limit of my experience when it comes to being kinky! I'm also most definitely NOT a young, virile, multi-millionaire so the game truly is a work of fantasy.
As I've mentioned previously, the visual effects business got hammered during the time the writers and actors were on strike and the money from a number of particularly generous patrons was a big factor in adding some of the "darker" material and it is actually fun to work on.

While I know there's definitely a significant part of the audience that enjoys it, I fully recognize the majority of people are either ambivalent or actively dislike it and feel like it's been forced on them. In purely financial terms I can't afford to piss anyone off and it's not something I would want anyway.

So while I plan to continue moving the timeline forward, I'm also going to spend some of the time I'm waiting on renders to try and rebalance things. I'm not planning to cut anything and I will certainly have to retcon some things to allow for that, so make sure you keep those old saved game files if you're open to rewinding the timeline a little.
I can't promise "100% satisfaction" but I do listen and I try to be responsive to criticism. At the end of the day, it's a game and the whole point is that people should enjoy it.

So keep the comments coming and I'll do my utmost to deliver something that pleases most of the people most of the time!
I am truly grateful for your support - unemployment ran out months ago and I'm still dealing with the bureaucracy of claiming retirement/social security benefits and every penny counts.
 
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