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Maviarab

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I help but not have event with Mallory.
When at the penthouse (first meeting)...after the talk about her living arrangements, she offers you to help her in the 'barn' room. Just keep agreeing. After that, you set up appointments with her to keep heloing her out. It's really not difficult, just agree all the time.
 
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There's a test build that's gone out to a couple of people to deal with a specific issue in the Receptionist recruitment process. Hopefully that will be the last we see of that.

In the meantime, I'm making progress with the next release.

As you may have seen in my reply to a question a couple of days back, I'm thinking about transition away from the current model where we see every day in detail and instead omit more mundane details in order to advance the storyline a little faster, possibly skipping some days completely.

By way of an example, MC commonly sees Mallory on Tuesday evenings. But if you're not doing the cow thing with her AND there's nothing else of significance going on that day, it would just skip it completely.

But I want to see what people think and maybe we'll test that in Week 13?
 

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There's a test build that's gone out to a couple of people to deal with a specific issue in the Receptionist recruitment process. Hopefully that will be the last we see of that.

In the meantime, I'm making progress with the next release.

As you may have seen in my reply to a question a couple of days back, I'm thinking about transition away from the current model where we see every day in detail and instead omit more mundane details in order to advance the storyline a little faster, possibly skipping some days completely.

By way of an example, MC commonly sees Mallory on Tuesday evenings. But if you're not doing the cow thing with her AND there's nothing else of significance going on that day, it would just skip it completely.

But I want to see what people think and maybe we'll test that in Week 13?
I'm not visiting Mallory. I'm very glad I managed to avoid this. But I have Tuesday evenings off. So I would love to visit the basement on those days. Let everyone have a choice on Tuesday evening. A barn or a basement.
 
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I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by this game. I honestly came here for the milking scene in the screenshots, and was expecting something ridiculous and campy, but the writing is good, the character interactions feel realistic, and aside from okay renders I think the love interests are gorgeous. This one is definitely going on my list. Best of luck to the dev(s)!
 

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I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by this game. I honestly came here for the milking scene in the screenshots, and was expecting something ridiculous and campy, but the writing is good, the character interactions feel realistic, and aside from okay renders I think the love interests are gorgeous. This one is definitely going on my list. Best of luck to the dev(s)!
Agreed! And it feels like we're slowly moving towards more lactation/milking fetish content as well, which I'm very hopeful for.
 

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I'm glad you're okay brother

but I have to ask

after saving up my updates for a very long time

and finally coming back to the game as a monogamy player

what happened to the game monogamy route

early in the game, we were given the option to be in a monogamous relationship with Kari

and now there are unavoidable sex scenes

and all the women I previously rejected

are acting like they're in a relationship with me I even have to give them pet names

and the only way I can have a baby with Kari is if I'm in a relationship with the sister
Look man, can not pretend, expect or recommend waiting for it to be fixed.

Sorry brother, it's just not going to happen with this author or title.
If not coerced into testing it, there are others one can trust.
Know this happens way to much and we both know, it's not for kinks.

Hang in there Vidal(y)
 

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When at the penthouse (first meeting)...after the talk about her living arrangements, she offers you to help her in the 'barn' room. Just keep agreeing. After that, you set up appointments with her to keep heloing her out. It's really not difficult, just agree all the time.
Oh, thanks. I must have had a condition from my pre-event pick to meet Mallory that made not an event with the phrase "You can stay in the penthouse but I'll expect you to be very grateful" from happening.
 

Maviarab

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Oh, thanks. I must have had a condition from my pre-event pick to meet Mallory that made not an event with the phrase "You can stay in the penthouse but I'll expect you to be very grateful" from happening.
You can pick literally any of the options and she will still offer you to help her.
 
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Agreed! And it feels like we're slowly moving towards more lactation/milking fetish content as well, which I'm very hopeful for.
"slowly" is an understatement.
i briefly subbed to the dev's patreon until i realized they are ming boggingly slow at releasing updates, and each update is quite small, and it's taking a lifetime to even progress lois' breast expansion with lactomax.
 
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"slowly" is an understatement.
i briefly subbed to the dev's patreon until i realized they are ming boggingly slow at releasing updates, and each update is quite small, and it's taking a lifetime to even progress lois' breast expansion with lactomax.
The updates are actually pretty frequent, but they are usually small, yes. The bigger issue is that the dev seems to be building the game and adding content on the fly as he goes. So there's a lot of different things happening in different directions, without a clear foundation.

I know its not what people want, but I think that the project would be best served by saving all of the scenes and renders that have been done, but starting fresh with a new base system for the game and building everything back in a more user friendly, intuitive way.
 

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togs-games among other things, there's two breaking bugs in your game:

Code:
While running game code:
  File "game/ch26.rpy", line 108, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range
After a short search, in ch25, there's four candidates put on the list, for four positions. If you follow Lois advice, neither Kari nor Mallory will be added on the list, and you force ashley.temp at 0 (line 905) while not offering the possibility to change this, so she'll never be added to the list despite the possibility being in the code.
Therefore, in ch26 when you force a change for reception_3 (what also looks like a bug, it should only happen if the position is free because previously hold by Cassie, not for everyone like currently; indent error ?) the candidates list is empty, what lead to the error I encountered.

The same error happen later in ch57.
Code:
While running game code:
  File "game/ch57.rpy", line 1260, in <module>
IndexError: list index out of range
There's no candidates added to the list before the next chapter, while you remove Kari and Mallory from the list, if they were in it. So, if the player listened to Lois, or decided by himself to not give a position to Kari and Mallory, the list will be empty, and the game will break again.


There's also a lot of inconstancy regarding the girls at reception position. By example, looking at the code in ch65, when you tell Aria that she'll goes to London, you switch from r1 to ar if Aria was "ES Senior Receptionist", as if that position should be assigned to reception_1. But in my play while Aria is "ES Senior Receptionist", she's reception_2.
It don't even match your own intent, since in ch26, it's Cassie that you force at reception_1 if either Kari or Mallory where at that position.

But it's just the most obvious issue, because you see the change of interlocutor during the dialog, and because of things like that:
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And also because after that, Cassie (who's reception_1 in my play) disappeared from the reception desk and is expected to start working soon... It's funny that her, who was "ES Receptionist" since so long and is now "ES Senior Receptionist", need to be hired and taught her job, before she can replace Aria that was never at reception_1 position.

But it's not the only issue here. There's sometimes only one girl visible at the reception desk, while there's two involved in the discussion.
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Pointing to the same issue, there's also all those talk about Bree. Like MC being confused by her hairs being sometimes long, sometimes short, or Lois asking her to take care of her skirt. What is really confusing, because Bree was never ever shown at the reception desk before the mess between Aria and reception_1.
Talking about it, this issue with Bree is probably the reason why there's, time to time, an image missing for reception_2. I guess that it happen when Bree is expected to have her alternate hairstyle... except that it's not Bree that is at that position.

There's also the issue with Kayla being pregnant even while in my play MC cum inside Rei's mouth and kayla.unprotected is at 0 as expected... I'm far to be strict regarding the realism in stories, but here it goes a bit too far.

And, looking at bit at the code, there's also many variable adjustment that feel totally wrong. Like by example in ch76:
Python:
    if hasattr( lois, 'sapphic' ) and lois.dates & 4 and lois.sapphic < 20:
        $ lois.sapphic += 40
    else:
        $ lois.sapphic = 0
The issue here is that if lois.dates have it's 3rd bit raised, then lois.sapphic will be either 20 or 40... Therefore it will fallback to the else part and be reset while it shouldn't be.
You also force loisslave at False in ch70 if her relationship isn't anymore "Slave". What feel right, but conflict with what happen later, by example in ch76:
Python:
        if relationship.index( kari.relationship ) > 2 and lois.relationship == "Girlfriend":
            [...]
            if relationship.index( kari.relationship ) > 6 and loissub:
                [...]
                if loisslave:
                    [...]
According to the forced change you did in ch70, Lois can not have "Girlfriend" as relationship and also be a slave. This despite the dialog clearly showing that she want to stay MC's slave while being his girlfriend, to what MC agreed without hesitation.

All this is a pity, because all in all the story isn't this bad, and probably more coherent than it seem. But all those inconstancy present the characters, as well as the story, as way more versatile than they would probably be without them.
For once there's a game that should deeply adapt to the player choices, making us feel like what we decide really matters. Except that in the end it only matters if the player made the few choices that you can think about, or that you haven't forgot. And, yeah, I'll repeat myself, this is a pity. The game could be good, but in the end it's below the average.


I know its not what people want, but I think that the project would be best served by saving all of the scenes and renders that have been done, but starting fresh with a new base system for the game and building everything back in a more user friendly, intuitive way.
Totally second that.

A good thinking about what variables are needed, a good list of each events and their possible outcomes, and a stronger code as base, could really make a huge difference in the way people perceive the game and the story.

And probably also get ride of the "who and at what position" part, or having it in a more restraint way. The player have the final word when it come to showing interest, or to fuck, a girl, so there's no need for him to decide who will be hired and at what position. Especially since, time to time, there's forced changes.
Having Lois explain that she hired X or Y at this or that position, like she did for Tilly if the player don't chose her as flight attendant, would be enough. If the player isn't interested, he'll just chose to not show interest and decline to fuck her. But at least the code would be simplified and the development made easier; there's part of the code with near to twenty to thirty lines of computation for just for two lines of dialog, that half the players will not even see because they haven't hired the right girls at the right position. And in top of that the story would feel more constant.
Plus, some of the secondary girls have either a story, a sex scene, or a role to play in the main story, but it will only happen if they are at a given position. It's by example the case for Rei. Outside of the possible threesome (where she'll just eat Kayla's cunt) she's a purely background character, unless she's "ES Intern".
Of course, the girl's interview give hint regarding who could be at what position. But let's be honest, no one cared about this, we all chose the girls accordingly of our desire to have sex scenes with them. So, not having to chose wouldn't change much, while not being frustrating, giving the impression that we will never have sex with a girl just because we haven't hired her at the right position.

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There's something bugged with the side images.
I only had two times a missing one, both for kira in a early chapter, but the images exists and nothing in the code pointed to a possible error. Plus, it was limited to a single chapter, all the occurrence that happened before it, or after it, worked fine.
Therefore despite you and me having played the same game and same version, and more or less at the same time, we didn't had the same side images missing :/ As reference, kira smile side image is used 107 times in the game, and the error appear only once in your list.

And for once it's not due to the mess with the girl assignment, because seeing the list it almost exclusively concern girls that aren't hired/assigned by the player.
 

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As reference, kira smile side image is used 107 times in the game, and the error appear only once in your list.
I didn't even bother to do a search, I just stripped all references that (the SDK) lint spewed.
EDIT: btw, are you sure? Kira = "k3" and k3 smile only occurs once.... I think you're confused with Kari (= "k" and k smile is the one occurring 107 times and that one exists)
As for all of the normal side images, I suspect these should not have the normal attribute at all. There's only one normal side image and that's for Mallory.
So, if removing that attribute then the list gets reduced to
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And of course the wrong scene statement at the start of ch09 (scene 101 coffee should be scene kari 101 coffee)
But that's still just the tip of the iceberg.

That whole thing of hiring the girls, this part has always been a mystery to me... you say the interviews give hints regarding to what position... Guess I didn't catch on there.
 
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I appreciate all that info. I'd missed it before, as I've come and gone from the thread over the months and not read absolutely everything. In all of my playthroughs, I've always ignored Aria as much as I can, because I just don't have any interest in her, and I've always focused on Jenny , Rei and Bree for those roles, because of the opposite, but perhaps I've been shorting myself content in the process? Is there any way to avoid hiring Kiki as the replacement for Lois when she's out and get someone else into that role?
 

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I appreciate all that info. I'd missed it before, as I've come and gone from the thread over the months and not read absolutely everything. In all of my playthroughs, I've always ignored Aria as much as I can, because I just don't have any interest in her, and I've always focused on Jenny , Rei and Bree for those roles, because of the opposite, but perhaps I've been shorting myself content in the process? Is there any way to avoid hiring Kiki as the replacement for Lois when she's out and get someone else into that role?
Kiki is forced.
 
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