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Chill-E

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That way, the game knows your interest in a character from the first time you meet them. That could form the basis of a modifier to the available choices, like the personality type at the start of the game.
I agree with a simple choice system, such as we have gotten. " she is hot/ Not my type". But cant be to early you may regret it. The country girl came of as a ditz when we first meet her. But later we may find out she is a sincere love interest, and miss out on a great lady based on what can seem like a miss leading introduction. Maybe just let me chose later when the sexy stuff is available.
 

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I was just thinking of a way to have some indication of whether players find characters attractive, but I guess actions speak louder than words!
 

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Okay, I'm trying to address the remaining issues that have been flagged. I have tweaked the verbiage on the flight home, but there's nothing significant you would miss if you're past that point and don't feel like replaying it.

I've also optimised the graphics so the next build you download will be about half the size of the last few.

Lots of Lois fans out there and clearly many of you enjoyed this release, but did anyone strongly dislike the Lois-specific aspects? Other than those of you who just wanted to get home to Kari, or whatever?

I've always said I didn't want her to just be another minor "bit on the side" and I was wary about how to reveal her backstory without it being sordid.

Please avoid spoilers, or feel free to message me privately if appropriate!
 

Zenae

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The Lois addition was great, and it allowed for new locations to be introduced, too, so well done.

I'm looking forward to the fun that all of the office girls get into once we've all been around each other for a longer period of time.
 
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NewTricks

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The Lois addition was great, and it allowed for new locations to be introduced, too, so well done.

I'm looking forward to the fun that all of the office girls get into once we've all been around each other for a longer period of time.
What I like about Lois is that she is very grounded and unpretentious about what is going on between her and her employer, yet is also very direct in stating what she wants. Trust me, when it comes to office romances there are not many women like that. Women in office romances are oft given to flights of fancy and delusions about their boss leaving their wife or SO for them and living happily ever after while still booking their appointments and taking their phone calls. Many times they are only doing it to monkey-branch off of a boyfriend or husband that they don't think is good enough for them. Either that or it is purely a strategic move to secure or improve their position at the company by whoring themselves. It is like that underwear gnome plan from South Park. Fuck your boss > ???? > Profit? Lois seems secure in the knowledge that she is going to be a dirty little secret and that this is a move for her own gratification as much as for her boss, not to help her career. She is a keeper.
 

Mister_M

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Since we're talking about Lois.

While I don't find her very attractive - and would probs rate her rather low on 1-10 scale, which could be a bad idea - I love her personality. In many ways she represents what is - for me at least - the best in this game: dialogues, dynamic between characters and their respective personalities (and facial animations). Having some kind of scale that could potentially limit my time with Lois then wouldn't be imo a good idea, cause even though at first I would rate her low and even though I never tried anything sexual with her, I greatly appreciate all the conversations, working relationship and simply all the time spent with her and I wouldn't like any less of it. She is a great friend and business partner for my MC and even if I wouldn't ever venture into any lewd content (though I guess I will at some point) I'm sure I'll enjoy playing the game even if for the sake of the conversations with her.

While looks-wise I find Kari more attractive, Lois - since her very first scene - won me over with her personality and for me she is now the main NPC in the game; tbh I don't even care too much what will happen with Kari atm. In other words there's nothing I dislike about her, on the contrary I love her attitude, even though I don't see her as a romantic partner. I also didn't find anything in her backstory that would make me think any less of her (or the game for that matter), and I think the way she talked about it was very well written with giving the player a clear picture where she's coming from without being too dark, sad or on the nose.
 

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I'm making headway with the next update. I've incorporated what I hope are the last of the bug fixes and then finishing up what looks to be a pretty hectic weekend for the MC!

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MC: Of course, before the internet, you had to carry your porn around in a briefcase...
 

Soulbro

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I am thinking it would be useful to have a mechanism for getting MC's initial reaction to any new female characters he meets, perhaps as simple as giving each girl a score out of ten or a star rating or something similar

Would that take people "out of the moment"? Thoughts are welcome.
If is done as a 'thought' then it won't take us "out of the moment" because it's the MC wondering out loud.

Maybe, and this might be more work for you, a ranking system so the MC can have a "If I could have..." list, and the MC can move them up and down the list, rather than give them a number, so the position in the list would be the ranking.

Whatever works for you.
 
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Soulbro

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Lots of Lois fans out there and clearly many of you enjoyed this release, but did anyone strongly dislike the Lois-specific aspects? Other than those of you who just wanted to get home to Kari, or whatever?
I felt like the MC was doing his very best to give Lois all that she needs to achieve her goals, and if he decided to also take it down the personal relationship path then Lois may feel like it's because she owes the MC and has to repay that debt... that didn't feel right to me.
We are building a business relationship, he needs her for her intimate knowledge of how things worked before as he is still an outsider, and we need to remain equals, and given that the MC is the boss, and a gazilionaire, then we already have all of the advantages, and the personal relationship on top felt to me like the MC was taking all that Lois had and not treating her as an equal.
But that's just me and the way I am playing the MC...
And yes, full disclosure, I fell in love with Kari from the start and would never ever want to risk that relationship for any short term gain.
 
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Ariostebaldo

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Cheating is a fetish too. In many games the MC can cheat on his girlfriend, but there are very few where the MC has a woman knowing and willing to be the mistress, so this is positive point for Lois in my opinion.
Also, the interactions between Lois and the MC never give the impression that he's not treating her as an equal although, let's be honest, they're not on equal footing by any means.
 

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... there are very few where the MC has a woman knowing and willing to be the mistress, so this is positive point for Lois in my opinion.
Also, the interactions between Lois and the MC never give the impression that he's not treating her as an equal although, let's be honest, they're not on equal footing by any means.
On Day 36, MC has a moment where he's wondering if Lois feels he doesn't respect her.

He (you) have the choice to talk her up (or put her down) and depending on that there is a line where Lois acknowledges their inequality, but that they are partners nonetheless (and I think it's reasonable to think she understands that from the outset).
 
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Ariostebaldo

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On Day 36, MC has a moment where he's wondering if Lois feels he doesn't respect her.

He (you) have the choice to talk her up (or put her down) and depending on that there is a line where Lois acknowledges their inequality, but that they are partners nonetheless (and I think it's reasonable to think she understands that from the outset).
They are just generally laid-back around each other, but it feels like it's because the MC never demands a formal behavior from Lois.
About the mistress subject, I personally think it's much hotter to bang Lois behind Kari's back than having Kari's permission to do so. Assuming they don't get caught, of course.

Ohh... I was referring to games in general when write about cheating, in my previous comment. Sorry if wasn't clear.
 
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drfronkonstinmd

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Awesome game so far. You did a fantastic job! Congratulations.

I mean, I enjoy games where you're this magic women magnet with a one foot long cock who just needs to get near a female character and say a couple of lines to get a blowjob. They're fun, but every once in a while, I really like slow burn adventures where you don't get everything right off the bat and every new step feels like you earned it.

I know this MC is a rather handsome guy with a ton of money who's constantly doing nice things for the flock of beautiful girls he's surrounded by and that certainly helps, but the fact that I had to wait a few in game weeks to get my first kiss with Kari really felt different in a very positive way. Also, weird stuff like the lactating step aunt is always welcome.

On top of that, the renders look great and the whole game is very polished.

Keep it up!
 

Zenae

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Thanks. it's always nice to hear someone likes what you're doing! Doing something like this for the first time has not been without its ups-and-downs!
What has been the most challenging aspect of it, so far, and also the most rewarding? (outside of praise or criticism)
 
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I also thought that the game to this point has been absolutely fantastic. The UI and everything else involved with player control is among the best I've played. The graphics are really good, and I really enjoyed the player's interactions with the various girls to this point. Very interested to see more and where it goes. The story is also very well written and detailed, on a much deeper level than most other adult games.
 

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What has been the most challenging aspect of it, so far, and also the most rewarding?
The most frustrating thing is the load issues some people seem to have while others (including me) seem perfectly fine.

Right behind that is the walk through mod - I still feel that if people feel like they need that then I haven't entirely achieved what I set out to do. I never intended that the internal variables, stats, etc, would be available to players, or that there should usually be a right/wrong or good/bad answer to any given choice.

The things that are hard for me are firstly just the lack of enough time to do everything I want, then animation, the learning curve of ren'y and python, render times, and not letting some of the critics get under my skin.

The best things are the response from people who DO like the game, and how Mallory (who started out as a joke) and Lois (who was basically intended as a bit part) have developed and I suppose that the game has mostly gotten better as it's gone along.

Eventually (maybe at the end of week eight) I will "finish" the game and begin a new one that continues on. That would give me the chance to fix some of the underlying issues that I've had to kind of patch up as the game has developed.

In an ideal world, I would also do this game over (especially the beginning) to better incorporate some of the things that got added later and maybe rejig some of the early graphics, etc.

Maybe we should have a contest for a better name for part two or whatever.
 
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