Okay, sorry for my absence, I was away for a couple of days and then got sick. I've still got about ten more pages of discussion to wade through, but I think I've got the general gist of things.
So... a few quick points:
As I've said many times, this is my first VN. Some things I get right first time, others change based on feedback, whether it be from here, Patreon, or anywhere else for that matter.
I'm not trying to force anyone into doing anything. I'm not even forcing anyone to play my game.
The Lodge (the sex club) will be the main venue for the "darker" content, so it's easy to avoid. That, in combination with a tightening up of the conditional variables should help anyone that does or doesn't care for that to find or avoid it.
Kiki. I don't know if people just don't read the conversations, but Kiki basically tells you she's pretty carefree when it comes to nudity and sex but that her own choices haven't always been wise and she's putting herself in your hands.
Kiki and Jed. She's not REALLY suggesting she'll fuck Jed when he walks in on the two of you. That was intended to be humourous, based on the fact that poor Jed always seems to be tormented by your girls, starting with Lois in her very short mini skirt way back. Admittedly, she does later say she would have done it if you told her to, but that was intended to underscore her willingness to do as she's told.
There's no "they" - it's just me, one person, that does everything and there are only so many hours in the day.
Finally, let's try to be civil in our discussions. I know I'm occasionally a bit snippy (see my previous post) but I have a lot more invested in this than anyone.
Welcome back! I have no problem with the sex club and more "dark" content being added personally. I also don't want you to think slutty characters bother me, cause they don't. However it really did seem to come out of NOWHERE. I mean sure, it was clear off the bat that Kiki is more carefree than let's say someone like Kari. However, she never came off as this super promiscuious girl either.
The main thing that put me off of her, was the Jed scene, and the fact that if you're on her path, she goes around basically flashing her bits at everyone at the bar or flat out says she would like to be a breeding bunny or whatever the fuck it was. No matter what path you're on with her. Even on the sub path (where she literally wants to become your slave), you don't get a say in how she dresses, or how she acts at the club for example? Also why the hell are we letting this creep that runs the club boss her around without our say? I would have loved an option to tell him to fuck off. (maybe a bit nicer than that)
Now some of these things would make more sense on the "Slut Path", but honestly the paths didn't really make much difference at all this update, I tried all three, slut, sub, and mistress... and all three played at pretty much the exact same. Like what is even the point in having a choice in relationship if she is going to behave the same, dress the same, and have mostly the same dialogue on all three? She either needs to have only ONE path, which is slut, and that's that, or there needs to be something to actually differentiate the three relationships.
Also the Jed stuff being a "Joke", it REALLY doesn't come off that way. When I was playing through the update I didn't get that impression at all, so my suggestion in that regard, maybe just change the dialogue up a bit to make it more obvious she's joking if that's indeed what you intended. (Also, this scene really shouldn't happen on the mistress path)
Nothing else has bothered me about this game really (well except Dr. Greenfield at the party, gross), not even some of the earlier stuff people were griping about, like the Aria stuff. I don't mind if Kiki is slutty like I said, I just wish it wasn't so in your face. I mean it would be cool if she starts out
moderately slutty, and you get to
mold her to become even more slutty if you want on the sub path,
then she'll become a turbo slut
while being your sub. Then the mistress path imo should be more intimate, I'm not saying it should be all lovey dovey... but maybe a little romance sprinkled in, and she can still become your personal slut possibly.
I just want to make it clear that this is all just my personal opinion, and I'm only giving advice/feedback. This is your game of course, and you can make it how you want. I just want this game to remain great like it has been, and even though some people won't be bothered by Kiki, and even I am not going to quit over her. I still think it's good to let these things be heard regardless, cause these things add up, and if more updates come out with even issues that are even more controversial, it could affect the popularity of the game, which I don't want to see happen.
P.S. Sorry for any typos and incoherent English that may be in this mess I just wrote, I'm so damn tired.