The strange thought of what a F95zone meet up would be like

[BunnyBehaviour]

I always thought how cool it would be for F95zone to have a meet-up thing like a convention where developers and people are just down to chat about some of their favourite games. Genuinely with the purest (as pure as degens in public spaces go) mindset, I also expect like a night event where people would most likely hook up but then I started thinking about what would actually happen...

Concluded it would be an absolute nightmare, a lot of people who would come might have the thought process that everyone there is just as degenerate as you (talking about the really fucked up people) and try to harass or do some really stupid stuff like:

• Unwanted exhibitionism - like flashing
• Sexual assault - They think everyone there is 'down'
• Disturbing people outside the venue
• A most likely a lot of misogyny/'dominant' men (e.g., just dickheads)

An example would be the stories I heard about how furries reacted to furry con (I assume that's what they called it), but most likely more extreme.

What are your thoughts on this?
Do you think it would work?
Or do you think it would be worse?

PS - Doubt any venue would ever accept to host it

 

[Meaning Less]

I bet most people using this forum wouldn't even go to a convention in the first place, so the convetion would be something like this:

 

[Hagatagar]

It would result in a huge brawl between users who like one tag and hate another and their counter parts, and also involved users who have a different interpretation of certain tags and what they should include.

 

[simarimas]

10 people would show up. The rest would be unable to leave the basement and face the real world, or from fear that an actual real life woman would be somewhere on the premises.

Also, would need a kiddy section, with juice boxes and fruit rollups.

 

[BunnyBehaviour]

As much as I agree that there are anti-social people on here, considering the size I hardly think not many would turn up. I'm a perfect example of someone that parties every other weekend.

Would be interesting to know the gap between anti-social and social people on this site

 

[Meaning Less]

Also, would need a kiddy section, with juice boxes and fruit rollups.

Yeah, that would be the FBI booth.

 

[Gabaw]

Hell nah. I'm a massive fucking degenerate, but I have zero tolerance for other massive fucking degenerates. Our kind are sexual cannibals, both figuratively and literally. We must not be allowed to exist free from the chains of normie expectations. Evenly distributed and equidistant from eachother, we are rightfully kept powerless and checked from insanity. Let this forum be the one and only place we may harmlessly vent into the ether our perverted, twisted dialogues.

In short, I may be cumming, but I ain't coming.

 

[chainedpanda]

Forget the logistics aspect of it, I simply think it would be a bad idea in general. Would we REALLY want to risk the general public gaining more awareness of this community? Rape, sleep sex, mind control, incest, loli, shota, parody, necro, bestiality... Can you imagine how badly things would go if these tags become known to the public? Especially if they learn how common and popular some of these tags are?

It would be a blood bath.

 

[qwsaq]

Imagine the smell...

 

[gunderson]

Let's just deal with this one directly: the West, especially the US, is not ready to address its love of porn games. If attendance to such a convention as is described here were to be mandatory, it would probably be one of the most diverse conventions ever attended (yes, even if attendance was only 18+). Teens with phones, CEOs, scammers in Africa, Russian spies and hackers, politicians, priests, professors, right-wing demagogues, left-and-right-wing morality police, housewives, blue collar workers, domestic terrorists, people in nursing homes, people in prison, et fucking cetera. That's who loves porn games: a reasonable swath of every demographic in the entire Goddamned world with access to a computer and the Internet or a decent Android device and the Internet, and probably a few with no Internet at all.

But that's mostly not who'd come, because the people who would show up would be people who can let others know in public that they like kinky porn. That's a rarity in modern society. Imagine your boss finding out what porn you like. There's basically only two reasonable responses if your boss isn't already your buddy and/or already out and proud about their love of porn: "I like that kinda porn too" or "You're a sick freak." In fact, they're likely to SAY option number two even if option one is true, because the shame ecosystem is all-encompassing. Everybody sins when even just having kinky sexual fantasies is treated as a sin, and being in polite society means being constantly under surveillance by people looking to out and punish sinners. And of course, even kinksters (sometimes especially kinksters) shame other kinksters hardest of all just for having the wrong kind of kink.

It's true, though, OP. Somebody has to make the first push to get porn games, and not just gay porn games, to be considered acceptable. But the people to make those first pushes are likely to get tarred and feathered, as with any who publicly support them. So...yeah. Honestly? I don't think pushing back on censorship or purity culture is bad. Just, expect madness in response.

 

[Rafster]

Well, Maybe the Gay/Bi F95 players will have more fun than you guys, expect the geek version of the pride parade. Of course, there will be furries, but hey, if I can find a hole in that suit, it's for fucking.

EDIT: Maybe my players will keep me locked in a basement for who knows how much time... yikes.

 

[qwsaq]

Everybody sins when even just having kinky sexual fantasies is treated as a sin, and being in polite society means being constantly under surveillance by people looking to out and punish sinners.

I think you're overreacting a bit here.
The problem most people have isn't that you have the weird fetish, it's that you put it out in the open.
Everybody poops. Nobody wants to hear about your last bowel movement.

Being part of "polite society" is not about looking for reason to "punish" people. It's a mutual understanding that there's a time and place to discuss certain things and there's a time and place where we'd all rather not.

 

[gunderson]

I think you're overreacting a bit here.
The problem most people have isn't that you have the weird fetish, it's that you put it out in the open.
Everybody poops. Nobody wants to hear about your last bowel movement.

Being part of "polite society" is not about looking for reason to "punish" people. It's a mutual understanding that there's a time and place to discuss certain things and there's a time and place where we'd all rather not.

Talking about fiction featuring uncommon fetishes isn't like talking about pooping. It's like being a Star Trek fan talking to other people about Star Trek.

We're not here just because we're all obsessed with bodily functions, but because we're all fans of a hugely important and diverse genre of fiction. We play installments of our favorite games, talk about them, think about them, and make social groups around them largely in secret. The reason we don't talk to work friends about how we liked the last update of Sexbot isn't because liking a piece of sexually explicit media is inherently gross (see: popular culture both losing its shit loving Game of Thrones, and calling it porn, not to mention its explicit incest storylines), but because society even more harshly judges people for the fiction they like now than they did ten years ago. Hell, there are already conventions for IRL porn, many of whom do scenes involving the kinks present in the games we play here (see the 2023 AVN convention:

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). Why should indie porn games be different?

So, in politest terms, I disagree. The convention idea is a hard one to pull off largely because of sincere problems in our society, not because we should inherently be ashamed of having a favorite waifu in Summertime Saga (Jenny. It's Jenny. Main character will earn your love one day and you and your brother will marry!)

 

[comte bonfim]

I'd expect something similar to Constantine arriving at the hospital and dumping holy water in a room full of demons, Constantine being the Police in this scenario.

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[qwsaq]

Talking about fiction featuring uncommon fetishes isn't like talking about pooping. It's like being a Star Trek fan talking to other people about Star Trek.

People don't generally want to discuss uncommon fetishes any more than they want to talk about poop. The fetish discussion definitely falls closer to the "poop" side of discussion than Star Trek. Joking with friends about poop is acceptable, around acquaintances it's not. Mentioning Star Trek is an acceptable subject in pretty much any venue. Sex and sexuality is an intimate, personal subject regardless if you're discussing the act or the art. It's not a topic of polite conversation.

hugely important

Dude. It's porn.

society even more harshly judges people for the fiction they like now than they did ten years ago.

Citation needed

there are already conventions for IRL porn

I'm aware. I would have brought that up myself if you took a slightly different angle here. But here's the thing:
Unless someone actively makes a living in that industry, people aren't likely to advertise that they will be attending. They attend the convention and enjoy their time there and only discuss it with their friends in a casual setting. You starting to understand yet?

The convention idea is a hard one to pull off largely because of sincere problems in our society, not because we should inherently be ashamed of having a favorite waifu in Summertime Saga

Once again. Very few people consider it a shameful thing to be into whatever it is you're into. The shameful bit is that you come off as a brain rotted coomer if you think it's remotely okay to discuss your last wank session with your work buddies.

 

[zonesamabaka]

the furries would probably stay together
the loli area would be a physical honeypot
ntr haters would burn down half of the convention

 

[Meaning Less]

The reason we don't talk to work friends about how we liked the last update of Sexbot isn't because liking a piece of sexually explicit media is inherently gross

You are the one claiming it is gross, but a better word would be 'crass'.

It is like telling a sexual joke, there is a time and place. Would you want to hear what your mom is masturbating to at the dinner table?

 

[qwsaq]

You are the one claiming it is gross, but a better word would be 'crass'.

It is like telling a sexual joke, there is a time and place. Would you want to hear what your mom is masturbating to at the dinner table?

Exactly. I would even liken it to a racial slur:
There's nothing inherently wrong with any particular combination of mouth noises. They aren't some magical incantation to cause pain and suffering. The reason most sensible people have no desire to say them in a public setting is out of courtesy to others. People don't want to hear you say that shit so it's a rude thing to say.

I'll take one last shot at the guy before I declare this argument a dead horse:

the West, especially the US, is not ready to address its love of porn games.

As opposed to who? It's a fairly popular notion that "The West, especially the US" are somehow puritanical, but who are you comparing them to?
You're definitely not talking about the Middle East. Africa's far more prudish as well. Eastern Europe? Hell no. India's not exactly a "sexually liberated" society either. The vast majority of East Asia actually have porn censorship laws on the books.
You might be talking about Latin America. But given the heavy influence of Catholicism on their culture, that's debatable. Australia then?
To say "The West, especially the US" aren't some of the most sexually open societies on Earth is nothing short of delusion.
/rant

 

[Chalker]

I'd instantly leave with my boyfriend Trickstar <3

 

[Lerd0]

• Unwanted exhibitionism - like flashing
• Sexual assault - They think everyone there is 'down'
• Disturbing people outside the venue