VN Ren'Py The Survival of Sarah Rose [v0.9.9.9] [HappyDaedalus]

[Jonathan Y]

Imagine buying a game for its art and this is the sort of hideous monstrosity it turns into.
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It was me...

Personaly I nominate this one as one of the worst :
Their heads are tiny as hell, the captain's body has a snowman's proportions, all of their hands look like a seal's flippers as the Ai said fuck fingers entirely , his forearm is larger than his upper arm, her left knee is fcking huge, the background doesn't make much sense either. It's just shit.
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[Gladly]

Personaly I nominate this one as one of the worst :
Their heads are tiny as hell, the captain's body has a snowman's proportions, all of their hands look like a seal's flippers as the Ai said fuck fingers entirely , his forearm is larger than his upper arm, her left knee is fcking huge, the background doesn't make much sense either. It's just shit.
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Im pretty sure that this is made by an artist with a lasso artstyle but i do get what u r saying because why is it so proportionately challenged...it just looks rushed af

 

[Jonathan Y]

Im pretty sure that this is made by an artist with a lasso artstyle but i do get what u r saying because why is it so proportionately challenged...it just looks rushed af

Lasso artstyle ? The hell ? Never heard of it.

I mean look, I can appreciate and respect that some artstyles do not conform to basic, correct-ish looking biology.

But there's " stylized " drawings and then there's plain bad one. Idk to me this seems like the latter.


Edit : And wait a fcking minute I'm pretty sure that is AI in the first place so no artist involved no ?

 

[Raxac]

Lasso artstyle ? The hell ? Never heard of it.

I mean look, I can appreciate and respect that some artstyles do not conform to basic, correct-ish looking biology.

But there's " stylized " drawings and then there's plain bad one. Idk to me this seems like the latter.


Edit : And wait a fcking minute I'm pretty sure that is AI in the first place so no artist involved no ?

No wonder dev no longer come here if with every new release the same thing happened over and over, the ai thing was adrassed multiple times

Just to be clear, it's definitely not AI art.

The only reason for the AI-art tag is that I have used them for background filler on certain routes because background art is incredibly expensive while 90% of the players don't even notice it.

This is just how one of my main artist draws. Their balance of production speed, price and consistent quality, are honestly nearly impossible to beat. I can't drop someone like that over how they draw hands.

I wouldn't mind the accusation on the AI-art so much if I wasn't funding a small village of artists.

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I don't know why people keep bringing this up, again, and again, and again, when I have actually answered this.

The only AI-art that is in this game are placeholder background images, of which there are maybe a dozen or so in total, all of which are eventually going to be faded out for real art, made by a real artist.

The consistency of the art, starting this year, is because I decided to give 99% of the work to a duo of artists that work together on the designs, rather than spread out the work over many different artists.

The reason for that, is because they're able to produce fast, work independently, and above all, manage to come in at a price-point that manages to make this behemoth of a project feasible.

I can drop the sketch-designs for any art piece you want as proof.

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That top-tier art you like probably refers to pieces like this:

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Which I grant you, looks incredible.

That artist also has an output-speed of 1 image per month. The last update had nearly 90 images. So if you wanna wait 7,5 years per update, I could have them to do the entire game.

I've said this before, if I was using AI, I'd happily cop to it (and I do in the limited instances where it's used), but I actually do employ actual artists, and I do pay them a substantial amount of money each month, to make sure you all get a game that I feel is trying to do something pretty substantial and ambitious.

 

[Jonathan Y]

No wonder dev no longer come here if with every new release the same thing happened over and over, the ai thing was adrassed multiple times

Oh well my bad then, I should've looked more into it.
But I stand by my opinion that it looks very bad. Maybe they should prioritize quality over quantity, and that goes for number of routes aswell.

I did say that one of this game's strong suit is it's ambitious branching paths, however, at some point you gotta say, who gives a shit about some of them ?
Like this update for example, how many people even knew or cared of that short route ?

I think the dev should at some point focus on the main three, warrior, mage and queen and cut some of the other ones most people don't prolly care about off. Doing that might help with the quality of the art.

But hey just my two cents.

 

[Murender]

It's a rather subjective opinion really, i myself actually really like the artstyle that is being used. But well to each their own really. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Simpgor]

It's a rather subjective opinion really, i myself actually really like the artstyle that is being used. But well to each their own really. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There are objectively multiple artstyles such as the obvious (and admitted) AI stuff that "will be replaced" in the game they idea that you like "the artstyle" (singular) makes it sound like you are arguing in bad faith

 

[SomeIndolence]

this game has some of the best art of any game present on this site.

 

[SomeIndolence]

that said, the art style mixing I'm no fan of at all.

 

[Birdnman993]

Maybe I'm a conformist, but I've seen so many games that I love abandoned due to funding issues that I don't care if this is done by AI as long as it doesn't abandon the story. After all, the strength of this game lies in its narrative and different routes.

 

[Kalran]

Honestly, the current art style is my favourite of all the art styles used. It has a certain flair and personality that I find attractive. Now it has sometimes lower moments than other, but hey, most of the time the quality is great.

 

[GooseElite]

Great game hade blast playing.

 

[Leelloominai]

It's a rather subjective opinion really, i myself actually really like the artstyle that is being used. But well to each their own really. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

while the art style is pretty good and i really like, the specific images showed in those last posts are clearly bad.
i'm talkin of this:

Personaly I nominate this one as one of the worst :
Their heads are tiny as hell, the captain's body has a snowman's proportions, all of their hands look like a seal's flippers as the Ai said fuck fingers entirely , his forearm is larger than his upper arm, her left knee is fcking huge, the background doesn't make much sense either. It's just shit.
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and this :

Imagine buying a game for its art and this is the sort of hideous monstrosity it turns into.
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It was me...

but ignoring the low points
the art is pretty and this game is for me easily one of the best here.

 

[Boss129]

which sara is stonger between mage vs commander 1vs1

 

[DogSwordWhychm]

which sara is stonger between mage vs commander 1vs1

Definitely mage. We see a couple times in the game that mages can just annihilate large groups of soldiers. The only reason she was able to kill the mage (I forget his name) in the warrior path is because of chosen one shenanigans.

 

[xmagic]

any news on marion route for those who has subscribing to his patreon?

 

[Kalran]

Definitely mage. We see a couple times in the game that mages can just annihilate large groups of soldiers. The only reason she was able to kill the mage (I forget his name) in the warrior path is because of chosen one shenanigans.

Yep. Now, mages have their limits, and her master (the mage killed in warrior route) also tells her that they aren't invincible and a big part of their power is the fear that they inspire. We see it mor ein the mage route, notably her maser have to retreat in the castle because he clearly say that the ennemy soldiers are too numerous, discipline and well equipp for him to deal with them.

 

[damnedfrog]

Yep. Now, mages have their limits, and her master (the mage killed in warrior route) also tells her that they aren't invincible and a big part of their power is the fear that they inspire. We see it mor ein the mage route, notably her maser have to retreat in the castle because he clearly say that the ennemy soldiers are too numerous, discipline and well equipp for him to deal with them.

Sure, mages are not gods in this game. They can be defeated.
But they are very powerful and can destroy groups of warriors.
The initial question was which is stronger between mage and warrior, and I think we can answer it's mage.

 

[Kalran]

Sure, mages are not gods in this game. They can be defeated.
But they are very powerful and can destroy groups of warriors.
The initial question was which is stronger between mage and warrior, and I think we can answer it's mage.

Oh yeah, indeed. Sarah Mage is individually far stronger than the others. Now I think personally that Sarah Princess id the most interesting. Notably for the whole kingdom building and political aspects, but also because I absolutely loathe the nomads and their culture, so I love having the occasion to beat them and save the kingdom.

 

[Murender]

while the art style is pretty good and i really like, the specific images showed in those last posts are clearly bad.
i'm talkin of this:




and this :



but ignoring the low points
the art is pretty and this game is for me easily one of the best here.

Yeah i can agree with this, it feels slightly rushed. But the usual art with that style is quite nice imo, but body proportions like seen with the Captain are often rather odd in all honesty. But still i think this game has a lot of good art.