HTML The Time of Cherries [Completed/Ongoing] [Development Thread]

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obsessionau

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A number of changes in this build. The most notable being the change of name. When I started this game I had initially just planned to do a quick reskin of A Photographer's Lies and make it a bit of a lighthearted spoof of that game. However by the end of the weekend it had become it's own game and bares nothing from that game so having a similar name wasn't necessary but I never bothered to change it.
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A lot of new women have been added. This was not intentional and I was planning on sticking it to 99. But it appears I was more interested in looking at pretty women than coding. Such is life.
The complete list of faces as of this build:
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The last notable change is that I have finally added in the lounge upgrade. When you obtain the lounge, you can sink money into this to increase the chance of getting a relationship increase during photoshoots. Currently set to $500 a week for a 2% chance increase upto 10%. Relationship scores have also been increased meaning it is a lot harder to get naturally. This is the first step for me developing the women deception further so that there is a much bigger focus in relationships when you do this deception path (and potentially non-soft content).
  • Name Change for game
  • NEW - 19 new girls added.
  • NEW - The lounge is now functional, increasing the chance of getting a relationship card during photoshoots upto 10%.
  • Change - Relationship value needed to concubine is now 13 instead of 6 however the requirement to win competitions has now been removed. If you have a prior custom relationshipdata file, values will need to be adjusted.
  • Change - The full size of new photos has increased from 533x800 to 600x900. Some existing photos were also improved.
  • Change - Fleshed out the end a bit for finishing the antagonist scenario. Stress relief reward also provided for completing the questline.
  • Change - Achievement - Now indicates the names of which deceptions have been completed.
  • Fix - Problems with loading sequence of models should now be fixed.
  • Fix - Money bonus for adaptable personalities was not being applied (due to build 8 changes).
 

Yukemoto

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great concept, wish there was more variety in the women. In the end: your game, your choice, and I respect that.
 

Alzenemint

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Hi, I like your game. One thing I notice is that I don't understand the stability mechanics. It seems like there should be either a rest option, or some expected regeneration of stability. I have a bunch of models being stressed and staying there. Does letting them not take photo shoots help them?
The other issue with this is Photographer stress. It seems like a chance to Drink or Party or Rest would allow for both interactions with the models and lowering of the stress level.
 

obsessionau

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The measurements listed in detail view are wrong...looks like they list bust three times instead of bust/waist/hips. Compare:

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86 x 86 x 86 wow thats one chunky Alice May! haha thanks

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<td align="Center"><<print $Bio[_id].bust + "(" + $Bio[_id].cup +")">> x $Bio[_id].bust x $Bio[_id].bust</td>
Wait, she hasn't put on weight! It looks like a lazy copy paste job!

Fixed for next update
 

obsessionau

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great concept, wish there was more variety in the women. In the end: your game, your choice, and I respect that.
Honestly my main barrier up until now has been finding the pictures of females where the model has a decent selection of good quality images to use. A lot of the popular galleries have mostly eastern european women.

Having another quick look, I could add in some more popular pornstars like Kira Noir, Cecilia Lion, Nia Nacci, Ana Foxxx into the current game structure absolutely fine... however emphasis on "current game structure".

I wish people will read what you wrote before asking for more intimate scenes. In other games many developers don't seem to care about image continuity where the faces of the characters are constantly changing but personally I can't enjoy the game. One minute you are a bald man full of tattoos, next minute you have a beard and her hair has changed colour whilst putting on lipstick and visually aged.

These problems do not exist currently and it doesn't matter who the models are. Any person can be added as a model, heck if I add some simple pronoun managment all these models could be male. So yes, I can happily add your favourite 10 models (given I can find the pics).
 
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isitabicycle

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Honestly my main barrier up until now has been finding the pictures of females where the model has a decent selection of good quality images to use. A lot of the popular galleries have mostly eastern european women.
Just in case you don't know about it yet, if you want more asians, a site like jjgirls.com should have you covered. While it's mostly focused on porn, there are alot of clothed, striptease and nudity shots too and some girls have galleries that are over a 1000 pictures deep so you should be able to use that.
 

JimMorrison19

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I accept this game for what it is, but for the life of me I can't figure out why you don't round off all the money to even dollars. My present money is 85441.50000000001. That is ridiculous. You need to eradicate that issue from the game.
 

obsessionau

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I accept this game for what it is, but for the life of me I can't figure out why you don't round off all the money to even dollars. My present money is 85441.50000000001. That is ridiculous. You need to eradicate that issue from the game.
Above issue is caused from models with an agreeable personality producing 10% more income. Unfortunately this was calculated AFTER the rounding producing a non-agreeable remainder ... oops.

Uploading 10b fix now.

This will fix this issue and other reported issues.
 
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JimMorrison19

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You fixed the decimal issue, but why did this happen. It seems to indicate my chosen 2500 isn't recognized, but it was before.
 

svornost

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86 x 86 x 86 wow thats one chunky Alice May! haha thanks

Code:
<td align="Center"><<print $Bio[_id].bust + "(" + $Bio[_id].cup +")">> x $Bio[_id].bust x $Bio[_id].bust</td>
Wait, she hasn't put on weight! It looks like a lazy copy paste job!

Fixed for next update
Just wanted to check if you'd seen my longer post on the other thread, since the update didn't fix the really obvious bug that I mentioned there (concubinage requirements being listed incorrectly, as seen below):

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Anyway, I made a few other comments there that I think are still worth considering too (concubining a model feels like a huge step backwards because you lose access to the model details and photos, and some information layout needs improvement for usability).

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-time-of-cherries-build-10b-obsessionau.117021/post-8168330

I'm not at all bothered by the lack of explicit content, but I don't think making a model a concubine should feel like throwing them away.
 
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Black Xoul

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I don't know if it's a bug or limitation of design. When you check Key, about and customize one by one after you've created a character it's loops in aforementioned areas
 

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obsessionau
Played the game many hours, here are feedbacks :

First the game is great, good job ! Interface is neat, gameplay loop is on point :cool:

A bug : when you select (KEY,ABOUT,CUSTOMIZE or MINIGAME) twice, when you go back : you go back to the previously selected "explanation" page making it impossible to return to the actual game.

I would also suggest converting all imgs to .webp or compressing them. No quality loss and you will gain like 40% on file size, I can recommand you this tool :


Balance Issue : Around 18+ girls and 7+ concubines you starts to get "soft stuck" by the game.
Why? You need concubines to reduce stress but you also want more girls to 1) unlock galleries, 2) comply with more contract..
But concubine cost an outrageous 1000$, but having more girls don't really balance than money loss so their is a point where you just can't get the 10.000$ anymore to setup the dinner.. In short, "late game" is unbalanced :rolleyes:

I'm gonna throw ideas :
- Just reduce the price of concubines to ~750$.
- Get some kind of reward and/or unlock a special set/interraction with the girl when you complete all her sets.
- Get some kind of reward for winning the model competition too.
- Having reputation making you extra money on shhots bc you're famous.
- Contract could require multiple girls (would really be nice)
- Ability to change the office girls, and having some kind of indication if the girl is efficient at her task based on her stats (I mean the chance to generate an additional card in photoshoots)
- The lounge ? Costs nothing, does nothing for now


About dinners, how it works is understandable but the difficulty is just to high. Increasing the conflict tolerance and/or reducing the flip debuf to ~0.5 or even 0 (but can only be done once/girl) might make it more enjoyable ^^

About concubines, I really love the idea but at this state you just lose girls to passivly reduce your stress.
Removing girls from concubines is necessary and more actions would be nice, maybe special interractions / sets / some buffs / making them work for passive income or additionel event idk.

About modding :
First, I love the quality of picked img and that's great to have consistency !
Having one big chunky .lsm files with everything isn't really a good idea as you may overwrite work of another modder.
I suggest each girl having a config file like .json in her folder. Way easier / clear to mod and ppl will just have to dump new downloaded folders in "images" to add more girls ^^
 
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svornost

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Balance Issue : Around 15+ girls and 6+ concubines you get "soft stuck" by the game.
Why? You need concubines to reduce stress but you also want more girls to 1) unlock galleries, 2) comply with more contract..
But concubine cost an outrageous 1000$, but having more girls don't really balance than money loss so their is a point where you just can't get the 10.000$ anymore to setup the dinner.. In short, "late game" is unbalanced :rolleyes:
Try spending some time to develop your existing girls. I can easily make $15k or more per week just from repeating nude shoots on ONE girl...supporting a dozen concubines is no big deal. Repeat shoots to drive up your models' poise and popularity scores, and that will drive up your income too. New cards get a little bonus, it's true, but popular/poised (experienced!) girls are way better for income long term.

- Get some kind of reward for winning the model competition too.
+1 on this for sure. Reward could be model popularity, cash, reputation, a mix of those, or something else. The model competition seems kind of underdeveloped right now TBH...I'm not sure there's actually any point at all unless you're pursuing that specific deception.

- Ability to change the office girls, and having some kind of indication if the girl is efficient at her task based on her stats (I mean the chance to generate an additional card in photoshoots)

I think this is on his roadmap. It's another spot that could clearly use some development...I don't think stats or personality affects office proficiency at all right now (and if I'm wrong, then that's something that really needs to be called out in game).

About dinners, how it works is understandable but the difficulty is just to high. Increasing the conflict tolerance and/or reducing the flip debuf to ~0.5 or even 0 (but can only be done once/girl) might make it more enjoyable ^^
It took me a while to get the hang of it. The minigame is seriously difficult, but I can win pretty consistently now. There's a big random factor too, though (it's much easier if you get the Antagonist in an early draw and the Protagonist in a late draw, for instance). Fortunately the penalty for losing is not too big (only 10k, and there's no time limit), so you can practice.

About concubines, I really love the idea but at this state you just lose girls to passivly reduce your stress.
This is my biggest complaint about the game RN. Concubining a girl feels like losing them instead of promoting them.
 

obsessionau

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You fixed the decimal issue, but why did this happen. It seems to indicate my chosen 2500 isn't recognized, but it was before.
In short, my stupidity (rushing). There is a pool value which you can use which is set to 2500. You can set multiple sliders to use this pool. As I was just using the one slider I set the max value to the pool value.

However changing the lounge value decreases the amount that can be spent in the pool. So when it got bumped to 2500, the pool of what you can use became 0, thus changing the new maximum to 0. So the value of lounge 2500 is now greater than it's max 0.

Manual reset these values if needed:
SugarCube.State.variables.loungePool=2500
SugarCube.State.variables.loungeLoadout=0

Build 10c
 
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obsessionau

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When you concubine women, you are essentially becoming their sugar daddy and yeah you have to dish out the sugar!
The high price of concubines force you to play the game differently depending what deception you are playing. I would never concubine girls when playing the money deception for example.

I will probably change the default deception to one that is a bit more forgiving as on initial plays, players tend to get as many models as they can without taking notice of the effects it is having for the player. The consequence of recklessly taking people on is more grind. Without that there would be no consequences.

If you are concubining 7+ women that means you are losing 7,000 a week - Possibly not the best play if your goal is to make money.
Under the "women" deception, you have to concubine 6 - Had you been playing that deception, you would have completed that play through. As Svornost has suggested, do nude shoots to bring in the big bucks and allow them to break if your stress levels are still above 10%. After all, if you have unlocked their trophy, there is no point keeping them on - You are just using them to make cash.
 
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JimMorrison19

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In short, my stupidity (rushing). There is a pool value which you can use which is set to 2500. You can set multiple sliders to use this pool. As I was just using the one slider I set the max value to the pool value.

However changing the lounge value decreases the amount that can be spent in the pool. So when it got bumped to 2500, the pool of what you can use became 0, thus changing the new maximum to 0. So the value of lounge 2500 is now greater than it's max 0.

Manual reset these values if needed:
SugarCube.State.variables.loungePool=2500
SugarCube.State.variables.loungeLoadout=0

Build 10c
Now that error is gone, but it's replaced by a new one.
 
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