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VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Will of Endreon [Ch. 2 Part 2] [Hidden Dreams]

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Call of Booty

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Thank you everyone for the comments. Regarding NTR, I will try to be as straightforward as possible. This game will have prostitutes and other background characters having sex. It will not have your romantic partners sleeping with someone else, unless you choose a harem route with lesbian content. I have zero intention of throwing Netorare on anyone unexpectedly. I had considered an entirely separate, non-canonical version of the game, where that would be possible, but given the amount of time going into the main game, I doubt it will ever surface.

Actually, a question for those concerned about the NTR, does having a separate, non-canonical version of the game with it pose a problem?
If will take more time between the updates,of course it will cause the problem.
 

ImperialD

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Oct 24, 2019
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Thank you everyone for the comments. Regarding NTR, I will try to be as straightforward as possible. This game will have prostitutes and other background characters having sex. It will not have your romantic partners sleeping with someone else, unless you choose a harem route with lesbian content. I have zero intention of throwing Netorare on anyone unexpectedly. I had considered an entirely separate, non-canonical version of the game, where that would be possible, but given the amount of time going into the main game, I doubt it will ever surface.

Actually, a question for those concerned about the NTR, does having a separate, non-canonical version of the game with it pose a problem?
i'd be ok with that ... sorry man i'm just a greedy fuck :love:
 

LadySpider

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May 24, 2021
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Real lovely game thus far, usually initial releases don't give players a lot of options, but there are plenty you can choose from that will have impact moving forward, which is a big plus in my book, most initial releases give little to no choices and hardly anything to do with the story. As for the NTR, I don't particularly care, there some NTR games I hate and some I thought were good for ME it comes down to the writing and plot, and how I feel about the LI. Since it's been made clear that NTR is avoidable I don't see the big gripe but that's just my opinion, and as a lesbian I am all for all the lesbo scenes lmao. As for the game right now, the renders look amazing, the characters look fabulous, and I really like where the plot is leading. There are a couple of typos but no major grammatical errors, everything is very legible, so even with them its clear what was meant to be said. very solid release, amost perfect, I would recommend this game to any of my friends who also enjoy VN's, best of luck Dev, I will be watching this game very closely, and excited for future updates.
 

Hidden Dreams

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Wait, so the player can choose a harem route without lesbian/bisexual trope?

Or maybe you meant that there will be no sharing unless we choose the harem route, in which case the LIs are going to fuck each other?
I meant that if you choose to be in a sexual situation with multiple partners, you will be able to choose if they interact only with you or with each other as well in the scene.
 

drcynic22

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Dec 5, 2018
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Looks good. Normally I don't try first releases, but I currently have nothing else to play, so I'm giving it a go now.
 

Ozygator

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Only took 3 comments before the old NTR monster made an appearance. :LOL:


Looks very polished. Good luck and much success.
Eh, because people are tired of supporting a game then learn that it a favorite fetish of the dev and the game they love then turns to shit when that dev starts making that unwanted fetish into a priority. Hell the dev could even render all the women in the game having sex with everyone except the MC first, and then just say 'it's a bad end and not canon so don't worry about it'. It's a fairly common thing for dev's to do when they are sneaky shits. lol

Many dev's just need to grow a pair of testicles/ovaries (depending on their pronoun, lol) and the couage to go with them and say flat out, YES or NO at the start of the game if the story will include that. Either a dev has the story planned ion their head/drafts already or they are just making shit up as they go along.

Those with a true vision will know 100% if a fetish will be in the game, so when a dev basically says "maybe" that means:

1) They have zero vision for the actual story (which some might have a problem with and usually means the game is a clusterfuck with inconsistent updates anyway)

or

2) They DO plan to add it but want to milk enough folks before they drop the true story that all those people leaving when stuff is suprise included, won't cause a major financial drain. Most dev's who do this also hope the game will then have new supporters who will overlook shit they might not actually like, for the other stuff they do.

TL;DR Dev's need to just put the shit out there that they WILL or are strongly thinking they WILL include in the game and let the cards fall as they may with their game fans. :)
 

Ozygator

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Oct 15, 2016
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Thank you everyone for the comments. Regarding NTR, I will try to be as straightforward as possible. This game will have prostitutes and other background characters having sex. It will not have your romantic partners sleeping with someone else, unless you choose a harem route with lesbian content. I have zero intention of throwing Netorare on anyone unexpectedly. I had considered an entirely separate, non-canonical version of the game, where that would be possible, but given the amount of time going into the main game, I doubt it will ever surface.

Actually, a question for those concerned about the NTR, does having a separate, non-canonical version of the game with it pose a problem?
Only if you spend more time on that game than the supposedly official game. And if you show the characters having sex with other characters (the NTR) before it happens with the MC in the main game. Otherwise it's clear which you, as the dev, feel is more important to work on and that reflects on which story is seen as the 'real one' or not.

For me, NTR is not the issue, I play the game either way depending on how it's implemented, but I do have a problem when dev's say the NTR is 'optional' or "not official' and then proceed to render the women having sex with everyone before the MC does in the supposedly 'true story'. Or the NTR scenes are larger (some by a huge percent) in render count, sex positions, etc because it makes a lie to what the dev really see's the game as. If something isn't required for the story it should be second to what's supposed to be the main story, and it's a poor dev who clearly spend more time on the optional scenes than the main ones. From a writing standpoint you'd never have a side story eclipse your main characters.. Not if someone wanted a good story anyway.
 
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Hidden Dreams

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Eh, because people are tired of supporting a game then learn that it a favorite fetish of the dev and the game they love then turns to shit when that dev starts making that unwanted fetish into a priority. Hell the dev could even render all the women in the game having sex with everyone except the MC first, and then just say 'it's a bad end and not canon so don't worry about it'. It's a fairly common thing for dev's to do when they are sneaky shits. lol

Many dev's just need to grow a pair of testicles/ovaries (depending on their pronoun, lol) and the couage to go with them and say flat out, YES or NO at the start of the game if the story will include that. Either a dev has the story planned ion their head/drafts already or they are just making shit up as they go along.

Those with a true vision will know 100% if a fetish will be in the game, so when a dev basically says "maybe" that means:

1) They have zero vision for the actual story (which some might have a problem with and usually means the game is a clusterfuck with inconsistent updates anyway)

or

2) They DO plan to add it but want to milk enough folks before they drop the true story that all those people leaving when stuff is suprise included, won't cause a major financial drain. Most dev's who do this also hope the game will then have new supporters who will overlook shit they might not actually like, for the other stuff they do.

TL;DR Dev's need to just put the shit out there that they WILL or are strongly thinking they WILL include in the game and let the cards fall as they may with their game fans. :)
Actually, when I started making the game, I was worried that people would fear NTR would occur since there are many male characters who aren't MC. I didn't want that, so, I intentionally wrote in lines of dialogue to emphasize that the other main male character should be seen as asexual. However, after this, I then thought it wouldn't be difficult to tweak the story to accommodate for some NTR scenes since I know some people out there like it, which is why I didn't rule it out entirely. My only intention is to make an enjoyable game for people. There should be some warning about good intentions.

I will gladly tell people not to support me if they are just hoping to get NTR in the future.
 
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