Collection Video TheCount Collection [2024-08-03] [TheCount]

[andybc]

It's definitely a livable amount. My point is that he makes less than an entry level developer after you deduct patreon fees, credit card processing, and paying for your own insurance. That would get you ~$50k annual, which is lower than most skilled entry level roles. He is one of the best at this niche, so to get paid less than most entry level roles with his skillset doesn't mean he is rich owes us by cranking out animations every month.

If you think that is a lot of money, then you go learn animation and put out more content than him since he is barely working for your standards.

 

[jjerru]

They have to fork out the $1000s for voice acting, multiple PCs (or server costs)... filehosting fees, software..

This reminds me of what some dude said on the yuzu sub after Nintendo shut them down. Yuzu patreon was making like 20k-40k a month, so ofc, people wanted in on that dough too, seeing as it was an empty hole to be filled. Some guy said making 30k a month wasn't a lot, or enough money to work on an emulator because they needed to buy an office space, developers, and multiple Nintendo Switches and copies of every game for testing.

 

[CrucifiedHolySanctuary]

You're ignoring the costs of being a self-employed business. Sure, for your job at whatever-company then 54k is a lot as the company eats the cost of your computer, electric, internet, benefits like Gym/Healthcare/Dental etc - then the costs of other staff/contractors etc.

A smut creator is responsible for all those costs (on top of whatever taxes/deductions legally required). They have to fork out the $1000s for voice acting, multiple PCs (or server costs), allowances for sick time (both the lost production and any fees incurred to recover), obviously electricity and internet fees, filehosting fees, software..

I'm not going to argue it isn't a very liveable amount (in most places); but it's by no means a huge amount.

1000s for voice acting? Bro is tripping. He doesn't know how the arrangement works between these animators. A lot of animators are "partenered" with a "sound guy". And that "sound guy" has a gallery of VA's he potentially has access to. The animator tends to pay the "sound guy" and if the "sound guy" can't make it with the gallery of VA's prerecored stuff, the "sound guy" contacts a VA within the suggestions of animator. or who fits the voice. In Counts case, let's say he ignores the "sound guy" part, he's probably getting discounts and collabs among other things that make it enticing for VA's to put themselves in these roles...But that's not the case since he works with Volknor. Who knows how much the total cost of each animation is, but it's probably a lot less than what you're thinking because iirc Volknor has a tier that makes it 50$ for a commission for creators...I can't imagine there isn't discussions around how to adjust the amount when the animation is longer than 60 seconds. (Also, let's say you're paying 1000s on a VA, it isn't the ones that are good, because Cinder and Pixie are probably around 150-200 give or take on the project [Cinder has deals to reduce the price] and if he only does 2 animations that's 300-400 and this is just normal pricing) I don't many VA's if any that you'd find were their pricing exceeds or gets even close to 250 on an animation that is decently sized.

 

[Meth3rlence]

If he does everything himself then all the drawbacks listed by the dude above don't apply to him, but the benefits I listed (ability to avoid paying VAT for certain expenses) do. I might be missing some taxes if he's self-employed, but overall he's probably pretty well off, especially given how little it seems he works.

EDIT: Actually, some of the things he lists aren't a thing ever if you have employees. Dental? I don't think that's mandatory to pay in the EU. GYM?! Def not. Sick time pay I subsidized by the government here, AFAIK. Prob more. Someone better versed in EU laws could correct me or add

I doubt you'll find many jobs in Germany around the 50k+ mark that DON'T offer those kinds of benefits, they're not legally required - but they're expected.... if we're saying 80k is a lot as the 'average' salary is <50k then you have to compare it with the perks that those salaries would bring in - and then deduct all the extras that the company eats on TOP of that salary. Like I said, it's not like I'm arguing he's not making any money - it's a fairly decent wage and even after expenses will put him above the average, but it's not a HUGE salary - certainly not worth pages of complaining about it xD

1000s for voice acting? Bro is tripping. He doesn't know how the arrangement works between these animators. A lot of animators are "partenered" with a "sound guy". And that "sound guy" has a gallery of VA's he potentially has access to. The animator tends to pay the "sound guy" and if the "sound guy" can't make it with the gallery of VA's prerecored stuff, the "sound guy" contacts a VA within the suggestions of animator. or who fits the voice. In Counts case, let's say he ignores the "sound guy" part, he's probably getting discounts and collabs among other things that make it enticing for VA's to put themselves in these roles...But that's not the case since he works with Volknor. Who knows how much the total cost of each animation is, but it's probably a lot less than what you're thinking because iirc Volknor has a tier that makes it 50$ for a commission for creators...I can't imagine there isn't discussions around how to adjust the amount when the animation is longer than 60 seconds. (Also, let's say you're paying 1000s on a VA, it isn't the ones that are good, because Cinder and Pixie are probably around 150-200 give or take on the project [Cinder has deals to reduce the price] and if he only does 2 animations that's 300-400 and this is just normal pricing) I don't many VA's if any that you'd find were their pricing exceeds or gets even close to 250 on an animation that is decently sized.

I didn't say 1000s per animation. We're talking yearly incomes so I'm talking yearly outgoings - and I'm basing it on what I know the top VAs can charge. Also, thanks - you've totally contradicted the other guys' point who claimed Count worked alone.

 

[Galm_One]

Kind of crazy I'm learning about self employment on a porn website of all places.

 

[Reyas]

7k a month is a whole bloody lot depending where you live. Like hell its not that much.

This is true.

In my nation you could easily live off of 500 USD a month. That's for all expenses btw..... though it's without major luxuries as well but still. In any case, TheCount-sensei does good work and if things weren't the way they currently are, I.e. way tougher than they've ever been + payment processors being very sketchy, I would be supporting him atm.

 

[Dryme]

This is true.

In my nation you could easily live off of 500 USD a month. That's for all expenses btw..... though it's without major luxuries as well but still. In any case, TheCount-sensei does good work and if things weren't the way they currently are, I.e. way tougher than they've ever been + payment processors being very sketchy, I would be supporting him atm.

It seems to me that no matter how much you pay him, he will still work in his usual mode 2 or 3 animations per year.

 

[CrucifiedHolySanctuary]

I didn't say 1000s per animation. We're talking yearly incomes so I'm talking yearly outgoings - and I'm basing it on what I know the top VAs can charge. Also, thanks - you've totally contradicted the other guys' point who claimed Count worked alone.

The top VAs still wouldn't have you paying 1000s in a year unless you did 4-5 animations and they were all not discountable and they averaged well above the 250 mark per quote...And the contradiction was needed since Volknor is literally listed as the person who does the sound in his animations (which is still a lot less if all Count has to do is pay 50$ to maybe 100$ I'm unsure with how Volknor would price Count's animations since I haven't worked with him in regards to sound).

 

[Wener]

Kind of crazy I'm learning about self employment on a porn website of all places.

I follow these threads for updates and just skip past the walls of text, but I did read one this time and it was funny.

 

[Zarathos4]

It was my understanding that this was a side hobby for him, and not really his main source of income. And speed was never a factor when it came to his animations or anything. Like he kinda just put out what he put out, when he did and wanted to.

 

[Gar0u]

It was my understanding that this was a side hobby for him, and not really his main source of income. And speed was never a factor when it came to his animations or anything. Like he kinda just put out what he put out, when he did and wanted to.

Yes, but he can also treat paying subs better by stopping monthly payments while inactive ?

It's already a sign that even paying subs ranting here for the very slow update this year.

 

[Zarathos4]

Yes, but he can also treat paying subs better by stopping monthly payments while inactive ?

It's already a sign that even paying subs ranting here for the very slow update this year.

Well. If the standard was already set, of this is side hobby/projects come out when they come out, then paying him monthly makes no sense. Me personally would not pay a monthly fee based on a whenever I get to it I get to it. You can support without doing it monthly. It seems to me, peeps are complaining, as they always do, about something they can easily fix and misunderstood in the first place.

This artist is not like others where they produced a monthly set or some many videos. This is more of artist that is truly a free time/hobbyist and if you want to support do it on single payment basis. Throwing money at him every month, thing updates will suddenly come fast is mistake.

 

[ThePope05]

Anyone here have the alt version of the Juno animation?

 

[Prongis]

I see what you did there lol

Where's that Tifa animation from?

 

[muschi26]

Where's that Tifa animation from?

HydraFXX.

 

[Prongis]

HydraFXX.

Thanks buddy

 

[Cobaltarkangel]

Not trying to go against the idea of him slowing down, but to my understanding the reason we can trace it to is pretty damn fair - his monitor fell over and got smashed around a month into his current project.

 

[forsenProlapse]

Not trying to go against the idea of him slowing down, but to my understanding the reason we can trace it to is pretty damn fair - his monitor fell over and got smashed around a month into his current project.

Did he get some form of PTSD?

 

[antusp]

I cannot wait for one of these notifications to not be people yapping

 

[Dryme]

So, has the animation with Tracer and dva been postponed to next year? Don't expect a New Year's gift from the Count?