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adrie4u

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First and for all, I really like the game. The character looks perfect and the story develops very well.
Except for the menu which is in a small font, I didn't encounter any bugs (yet). So I don't see the need to change to another engine. Better keep doing what you are really good at, the graphics and the story, instead of learning something new (and you don't like).
You'll never please everybody and there will always be complaints, whatever you do or change (I would if you change the looks of the MC to much ;)).
I hope you continue to develop the game, and use time and effort for the game and not loose it on discussions about technology.
 

youpla

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For now im developing and creating content. I changed only the names in chapter 2. I think it is still ok for my goal. My biggest problem is this site. My ticket is still open.

I can't wait to play the sequel. Big up for you !

(I am particularly interested to see what you will do with the sister. In a preview, she was dressed like a slutty loli-teen. Yumm !!)
 
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youpla

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Thanks for keeping us informed.
For the ticket, I really don't know how it works on F95Zone. But maybe some admin are on holidays ???
 

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My plans are not clear right now. I have no permission to do anything here.
The admins replied to my ticket and said: "Your Game Developer badge and associated role have been activated."
But i still can´t do anything.

1. So my goal right now, is to use the time and look into renpy but i don´t know if Iwant to continue or restart with using that engine. I hate coding. I used Tyrano-builder as engine because it is easy, but if many people have problems with it i maybe have to switch to renpy.

2. If I continue working on it i will change the MC because it is to close to a real person that could/will be hurt by my work.
(This will be happening regardless of the engine)

3. I already startet to create new models. The story will change a little. (Maybe slow down the corruption)

Pros:
Tyrano builder
If i stay with tyrano builder I can rebuild part one with the new models and new story very fast.
Cons:
People might have problems with the engine. (I don´t know how bad it is)

Renpy
Pros:
It might have less bugs.
Cons:
It will take some time to learn it and producing contend takes longer. (rebuilding will take a lot of time)
As a professional coder with +-30 years of coding experience in about a dozen programing languages, it always irks me when someone calls writing a linear VN in Ren'Py 'coding' just because they have to use a text-editor instead of clicking in a GUI.
It is probably the same feeling a professional kitchen chef has when someone says making toast or boiling water is cooking.

Regarding Tyrano, I got your game working through emulation on Linux but it isn't really stable. Like the hide text-box option only shows me the top part of the image until where the button is located on the screen. And the push-up animation got stuck making me save, restart the game and reload to see new images and had some crashes along the way.
I did enjoy the story though, although the corruption could have been a bit more gradual with more scenes in between as some others have also mentioned.

I had a look in to your game and saw everything was pretty simple ordered and unencrypted so I had some fun and wrote a simple script reading the scenario files, converting the PNG's to WEBP's, converting the GIF's in separate WEBP files and making them Ren'Py animations (no animated GIF/WEBP support in Ren'Py) and converting the video's to VP9 WEBM's (Ren'Py wouldn't play the MP4's)
Anyways, here is your game ported to Ren'Py:
Part 1 - WIN/LINUX: - files Removed - scroll down for Part1 + Part 2.1 version

If people are interested, I could always make a Mac or Android version
 
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youpla

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osmcuser132 : Just as you said, a thing that is easy for you might me extremely difficult for other people. Some people can use English language with ease, some can't. Some can imagine a good story, some can't.
About me, I would be totally lost with programming : I don't know one bit how to do that, Renpy or anything else !:LOL:
Anyway, thank you very much for the Renpy version. ;)

Roxorxl : I have a different opinion from Osmcuser about the pacing. I think it is just right as it allows the player to see a lot of events with Jeannie while she's progressively having some modifications on her body (either clothes or makeup or anything else).
There are already plenty of adult games with a way too slow corruption for characters and, much often, it leads to a boring game (when it is not purely abandoned) where nothing happens or where sexual events are locked into a vanilla stream.
On the opposite, there are other games where girls become nasty sluts in just one or two corruption/brainwashing events : that's not appealing as well, because it doesn't create expectation for the player and makes the characters bland.
Here, with Jeannie, the "medium pacing" is good and logical as the girls is subject to a strong hypnosis which she can't go against. It's exciting because the player, while there is a hypnosis session with Jeannie, discovers by reading the therapist's words, discovers how the girl will be soon affected.
For example, if the therapist says "You love piercings, you find them really sexy, you want to have a piercing on your tongue", then the player is in the expectation to see Jeannie next time with a piercing on her tongue. And the therapist could even reinforce this fetish : "You love piercings, you want to look like a nasty goth japanese slut, you want some on your nipples and on your lips too.", meaning that some fetishes could be "leveled up" and, once again, create expectations.
THERE IS NO NEED TO DWELL TOO LONG ON A SLOW CORRUPTION WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO IMAGINE FOR JEANNIE (fake breasts surgery, exhibitionism, tattoos, lust for girls and especially a crush for her sister, addicted to porn, wanting to become a prostitute, wanting to marry her sister and make porn with her, etc... Just a few ideas.). Even more when there are other characters to corrupt too (her sister, her friend...). Going too slow with the pacing will only bring too much work to do, and a dying game.

But of course, that's just my persona two cents.

By the way, how is it going with the part 2 progression ? We don't know, after all, how many time you took to make the first part so we can't imagine if the next part will be in one month or three...
 
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What I have ready is around 1/3 of the first part.
I call it 2.1 and I deliver it in 20 min.
Don´t be suprised, that I changed the names.
 
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youpla

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Thanks man, you rock ! And you're fast !

The second part is (until one point) incredible. This is everything I want as you perfectly grasp the hypnosis fetish.

UNFORTUNATELY, the game is stucked into an animation when
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. The conversation still goes on, but the animation never stops. :(

...waiting for a patch. :(
 
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Thanks man, you rock ! And you're fast !

The second part is (until one point) incredible. This is everything I want as you perfectly grasp the hypnosis fetish.

UNFORTUNATELY, the game is stucked into an animation when
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. The conversation still goes on, but the animation never stops. :(

...waiting for a patch. :(
I will look into it... found it. Fuck my upload is slow
 
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Roxorxl Hey!

As osmcuser has already pointed out, Ren'Py doesn't require pretty much any previous coding knowledge - it's incredibly easy to understand. It also supports many modern image and video formats that allow for much greater compression.

Speaking of which - why the fuck do you need uncompressed 4K png images?
They literally take 10-15 MBs each (and they should be between 300-600 KBs in a .jpg or .webm format), wasting space and bandwidth. Plus, the number of people sporting 4K displays is minimal.

I suggest you start learning and converting your game to Ren'Py now or literally no one will want to download gigabytes of useless and wasted pixels to play your game.

Fix your product, please.
 

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Official REN'PY PORT

I've updated my Ren'Py port. It includes both part 1, part 2 and part 3.1


WIN/LINUX : -
MAC : -
ANDROID : -

Let me know if you have any issues.
 
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xxxRCxxx

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I just got a black screen, is this supposed to be he end? It's when she comes back home with her sister and meets her roommate and bf.
 

Roxorxl

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I just got a black screen, is this supposed to be he end? It's when she comes back home with her sister and meets her roommate and bf.
No this is not the end. part 2.1 ends after a therapy session with her sister and a little bonus scene
 
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youpla

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Roxorxl :
So, after having played the update and because you did it for free and in a short time, the least I could do is giving you a little feedback.
Overall, I LOVED it. Just as I said in my previous post, I find the pacing perfect. If you make it slower, it will be boring at one point like so many games that dwell too much on dialogs and story. Here, the scheme is simple and exciting : a girl is hypnotized, each session she receives directives that make her more and more depraved and, ABOVE ALL, they are showing between each therapy session. I'm personally fed up with game where we have to endure 3-4 brainwashing/corruption session to see the girl finally accepting to wear a shorter skirt.
Here, you offer something DIFFERENT : a game grasping the hypnosis fetish in its primary form, without dwelling too much on resistance from the victims. When it come to the hypnosis fetish, the most exciting things are to discover what orders the hypnotis is giving to the victim, to effectively see quickly how those orders are affecting the victim, and to see the victim totally oblivious to these orders and thinking that her behaviour is absolutely normal.
And in my opinion, you perfectly did it with your game. Yes, there are games with slower corruption. Yes, there are games with more developed and detailed story. But sometimes, it's more exciting and fun to play a game like yours that doesn't waste time with sandbox, useless dialogs, useless secondary characters, and 10 updates until the girl decides to do her first kiss.

In details and to better resume, here are my personal "pros/cons" with Therapy. I will use the "spoiler" tag as it is very long and I don't want to pollute the topic :

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HarryHill99

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just tried this (p1 only so far) and seems to have some bugs/issues with high cpu load (100%) when doing any of the animations or when trying to skip forward through normal scenes. It's as if it gets into a loop or something and you have to kill the application. Don't have similar issues with other games but they use ren'py engine mainly or unity.
 

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As a professional coder with +-30 years of coding experience in about a dozen programing languages, it always irks me when someone calls writing a linear VN in Ren'Py 'coding' just because they have to use a text-editor instead of clicking in a GUI.
It is probably the same feeling a professional kitchen chef has when someone says making toast or boiling water is cooking.

Regarding Tyrano, I got your game working through emulation on Linux but it isn't really stable. Like the hide text-box option only shows me the top part of the image until where the button is located on the screen. And the push-up animation got stuck making me save, restart the game and reload to see new images and had some crashes along the way.
I did enjoy the story though, although the corruption could have been a bit more gradual with more scenes in between as some others have also mentioned.

I had a look in to your game and saw everything was pretty simple ordered and unencrypted so I had some fun and wrote a simple script reading the scenario files, converting the PNG's to WEBP's, converting the GIF's in separate WEBP files and making them Ren'Py animations (no animated GIF/WEBP support in Ren'Py) and converting the video's to VP9 WEBM's (Ren'Py wouldn't play the MP4's)
Anyways, here is your game ported to Ren'Py:
Part 1 - WIN/LINUX: PIXELDRAIN - MEGA

If people are interested, I could always make a Mac or Android version
Looks like both links are dead. Any chance you can re-up your version? The original likewise is not playable even under windows and would like to give it a go.
 

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Looks like both links are dead. Any chance you can re-up your version? The original likewise is not playable even under windows and would like to give it a go.
Both links are death because I removed the part 1 versions and if you scroll up about 5-6 posts, you will find a post by me with new links to the part1+part2.1 Ren'Py version
 
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