ffive

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and I thought it was a bit weird that all of a sudden we're kissing everyone (though it moves that part of the story along, so I don't mind it)
I figure this part can make some sense given the order of events --but only if you pick the "right" responses in the dialogues-- since then you get the scene where it's Vivian who kisses MC, which might embolden him to (try to) do the same to the others.

But yes, even so having it happen to all girls at roughly the same time does come across as bit artificial.
 

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This update was a bit boring. It was very monotonous compared to the first episode.
 
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whatever you want but it's clear to me Vivian is suppose to be the mother and Victor the father
how i do my playthrough: (using same as Bella for Ariel)
I literally set Victor's name to "Asshole" because he started pissing me off early (but in good story-related villain sort of way). I find this enormously amusing because all the girls also refer to him as "Asshole" too, including Vivian. :oops:
 
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Thanks! Can you tell me what the difference is between both codes. I was playing with the first one, and whem I entered the second one the vault also mentioned unlocked but nothing changed.
Well the first one unlocks the bonus stuff, and the second unlocks all the rest.

Regards.
 
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If you set the character's relationship as family it is so weird since all the way the "father" shows he just sees mc as a colleague who can abandon at anytime but not his son.
It's not just the father though. You can put in relationships but it's pointless in the end. The story and interactions are clearly written as a group of acquainted thieves that just happen to live together. Unless it's common place for a son/brother to grope, kiss and flirt with his female family members and have them super into it from the start. The only thing it changes is how they address the player in a few scenes. It's just there so the player can pretend they are related.
 

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The story and interactions are clearly written as a group of acquainted thieves that just happen to live together. Unless it's common place for a son/brother to grope, kiss and flirt with his female family members and have them super into it from the start.
The story and interactions are clearly written as incest game dodging rules which prevent publishing such games on certain web sites. Kissing and flirting with female family members is common for a son/brother in incest games, yes.

You'd have harder time explaining why a group of casual acquaintances whose only common point is committing crimes together, cares so much about young male member of the group who is not related to them and apparent weak link. Or why these members react to sexual thoughts and actions involving that guy as something deeply morally wrong.
 
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The story and interactions are clearly written as incest game dodging rules which prevent publishing such games on certain web sites. Kissing and flirting with female family members is common for a son/brother in incest games, yes.

You'd have harder time explaining why a group of casual acquaintances whose only common point is committing crimes together, cares so much about young male member of the group who is not related to them and apparent weak link. Or why these members react to sexual thoughts and actions involving that guy as something deeply morally wrong.
I don't get that feeling at all. Ariel sure doesn't think it's "wrong", saying out loud that it doesn't feel all bad about getting touched by the mc in multiple situations. Loves that her first "forced" kiss is from the MC. As for Bell to me it feels more like she has always not cared for the MC and now doesn't get why she is finding him more likable now. Not to mention her little show for the MC where she is clearly trying to get him hard. And Vivian just comes across as a pent-up married woman that has another dick nearby. Their inner monologues aren't about how they shouldn't be attracted to there sibling/son, just that they are.
 
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I don't get that feeling at all.
Let's see.

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What's the alternative line? "Yes! Make your [team member and/or casual acquaintance] cum!"? Totally normal thing for a woman to scream in the throes of passion.

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And to feel soooo dirty and guilty about. I, too, find it extremely revolting to get off on fantasies of random, sexy work acquaintances.

And Vivian just comes across as a pent-up married woman that has another dick nearby.
Ahh, but that's the thing. They're supposed to be a group of casual acquaintances who just commit crimes together and live together. Why are the pair of them suddenly acting like they're married?

There's no need to be coy about it. That's the facade the game maintains, but that's all it is. At the end of the day it's a porn game with incest as one of its main themes.
 
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Let's see.

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What's the alternative line? "Yes! Make your [team member and/or casual acquaintance] cum!"? Totally normal thing for a woman to scream in the throes of passion.

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And to feel soooo dirty and guilty about. I, too, find it extremely revolting to get off on fantasies of random, sexy work acquaintances.


Ahh, but that's the thing. They're supposed to be a group of casual acquaintances who just commit crimes together and live together. Why are the pair of them suddenly acting like they're married?

There's no need to be coy about it. That's the facade the game maintains, but that's all it is. At the end of the day it's a porn game with incest as one of its main themes.
So your example is from a non cannon fantasy scene that means nothing and can be anything it wants? Exactly it's a façade, they are supposed to be a group of people but the player can make them related and I don't feel they act as such. You'll get the occasional "By, bro." then it's right back to business as usual. Honestly if they are so worried about being able to put it on steam and patreon then maybe they should have just made it like Melody. Pick a lane and stick with it I say.
 

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So your example is from a non cannon fantasy scene that means nothing and can be anything it wants?
The scene being "non-canon" changes nothing about the wording being idiotic in the "casual group of acquaintances" scenario.

the player can make them related and I don't feel they act as such. You'll get the occasional "By, bro." then it's right back to business as usual.
People who are related do act with each other like it's "business as usual" with the occasional "bro", "sis" or whatever. Not sure what your idea of families acting around one another is that the idea throws you off, or what sort of dramatic changes you've expected, compared to what we get.

If it's the fact they act quite okay with the idea of having sex, once again -- it's porn game with incest as theme. Wanting to engage in sex with family members if very much the point of the whole thing. Some games take their time when getting to the execution, some do it faster and without that much of moral dilemma because not everyone is into slow burn 100% of the time. This is apparently more of that latter, faster case.
 

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The scene being "non-canon" changes nothing about the wording being idiotic in the "casual group of acquaintances" scenario.


People who are related do act with each other like it's "business as usual" with the occasional "bro", "sis" or whatever. Not sure what your idea of families acting around one another is that the idea throws you off, or what sort of dramatic changes you've expected, compared to what we get.

If it's the fact they act quite okay with the idea of having sex, once again -- it's porn game with incest as theme. Wanting to engage in sex with family members if very much the point of the whole thing. Some games take their time when getting to the execution, some do it faster because not everyone is into slow burn 100% of the time. This is apparently more of that latter, faster case.
That's where I see it differently. I never said that they have to be family, family, family, but it is never brought up that these people are in fact related to each other. Like you said they hide it, so well that it feels nonexistent in the game. It is very much the latter. Everyone's paths are moving at light speed so far. The pacing is way off, it doesn't need to be at "meet and fuck" speeds to not be a slow burn. They are moving so fast that it feels ham-fisted for the sake of porn. Nothing new I know, but personally I find it incredibly unrewarding. We are getting the milk for free, there is no need to try here.
 

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but it is never brought up that these people are in fact related to each other
What do you mean it's never brought up? It's mentioned every time they use "family" or "brother" or "sister" or "mom" or "dad" in various interactions, which as you noted yourself, the game does use. E.g. MC can literally say "she is my sister" about Bella when inquiring at the tattoo parlor.

And yes, if you defined them as acquaintances then he'll say "she is my acquaintance" instead, but it doesn't change the fact that if you define them as family then it does get brought up every now and then and they are referred to as family. It's just like i said, people being family members doesn't change basic interactions between them in some dramatic ways, compared to interacting with friends or whatever.
 

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What do you mean it's never brought up? It's mentioned every time they use "family" or "brother" or "sister" or "mom" or "dad" in various interactions, which as you noted yourself, the game does use. E.g. MC can literally say "she is my sister" about Bella when inquiring at the tattoo parlor.

And yes, if you defined them as acquaintances then he'll say "she is my acquaintance" instead, but it doesn't change the fact that if you define them as family then it does get brought up every now and then and they are referred to as family. It's just like i said, people being family members doesn't change basic interactions between them in some dramatic ways, compared to interacting with friends or whatever.
The words the player sees change and that's it. "They" never talk about it in game or otherwise. Back to their inner monologues and physical interactions, I don't recall them ever saying it was in any way taboo to have these feelings. It's always he and him, as ambiguous as it gets. The scenes are identical aside from one word. The word insinuates they are related so they are, right? Their actions and thoughts don't portray that.
 

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It's not just the father though. You can put in relationships but it's pointless in the end. The story and interactions are clearly written as a group of acquainted thieves that just happen to live together. Unless it's common place for a son/brother to grope, kiss and flirt with his female family members and have them super into it from the start. The only thing it changes is how they address the player in a few scenes. It's just there so the player can pretend they are related.
unless we see flashbacks of mommy giving births to bella, mc and ariel.
 
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