Things you're tired of seeing in a game?

[Izakiya]

1. Boy comes home after x years away to sleep with all his female relatives - I'm just done with this story trope.

2. Female MC corruption games where the MC gets corrupted into a completely brainless slut - Corruption stories can be pretty hot, but why always turn them into mindless whores? I like the games where you can make them behave in a promiscuous way but their brains don't melt in the process.

3. DAZ graphics - This one might get me some hate, but DAZ models creep me out. I think it's the way their glassy lifeless eyes stare straight at you out of the screen. I only play a select few of the games that use Daz. 2D, Koikatsu, or HS for me.

 

[forbidden101v]

1. Boy comes home after x years away to sleep with all his female relatives - I'm just done with this story trope.

2. Female MC corruption games where the MC gets corrupted into a completely brainless slut - Corruption stories can be pretty hot, but why always turn them into mindless whores? I like the games where you can make them behave in a promiscuous way but their brains don't melt in the process.

3. DAZ graphics - This one might get me some hate, but DAZ models creep me out. I think it's the way their glassy lifeless eyes stare straight at you out of the screen. I only play a select few of the games that use Daz. 2D, Koikatsu, or HS for me.

I can not agree more with the third one. Daz graphics is so heavy on this site I usually just find myself only filtering for 2d games.

As for something I strongly dislike it would be oversized genitals, asses, and breasts. I don't mean just being big but I mean that the character in question is either more dick, ass, or breasts than person.

 

[tanstaafl]

I can not agree more with the third one. Daz graphics is so heavy on this site I usually just find myself only filtering for 2d games.

I've always found that the uncanny valley feeling with daz renders is hit or miss. Everyone's tolerance to things like that is different, so it's hard to argue with people who don't like it. I seem to be an edge case. Some of the time it doesn't bother me at all and others I just want to throw my laptop when they're on the screen, lol. And that's entirely up to the renders and, for me at least, it's not even a quality thing. It's hard to nail it down actually. Some games with fairly low quality renders don't trigger it and others with obviously high quality images do. It's just something about how the human aspect goes wonky in some of them.

 

[Warthief]

3. DAZ graphics - This one might get me some hate, but DAZ models creep me out. I think it's the way their glassy lifeless eyes stare straight at you out of the screen. I only play a select few of the games that use Daz. 2D, Koikatsu, or HS for me.

Could be personal opinion for sure but I can play 1000 game with the same Daz models/assets and I can never play one game with Koikatsu art,
HS is good but I prefare Daz art overall,
But if someone can make good 2d art, or their own unique models that would make me more interested about the game,
Still knowing that most of the dev's here are not artist and even if they can do art, it would take a lot of time to draw a full scene let alone animating them, it much faster and easier for most of the dev's using softwares like Daz, HS and Koikatsu.

 

[Illuminati00]

2. Female MC corruption games where the MC gets corrupted into a completely brainless slut - Corruption stories can be pretty hot, but why always turn them into mindless whores? I like the games where you can make them behave in a promiscuous way but their brains don't melt in the process.

I'm goint to say the corruption tag in general. I can mean a million different things, from a girl starting to have more sex to some supernatural evil transformation. We really need better tags.

 

[Deleted member 5954819]

3. DAZ graphics - This one might get me some hate, but DAZ models creep me out. I think it's the way their glassy lifeless eyes stare straight at you out of the screen. I only play a select few of the games that use Daz. 2D, Koikatsu, or HS for me.

Can you put a screen here that you would use as an example? I'm trying to understand it, but somehow, without a visual, I can't imagine what you mean if I can't see it

 

[Izakiya]

Can you put a screen here that you would use as an example? I'm trying to understand it, but somehow, without a visual, I can't imagine what you mean if I can't see it

First, these are from some random games I found on the forums. I'm not trying to single out these games or make fun of them, but here's what I mean.

It gives me the same vibes as this:

I have a difficult time getting into the game and story when I feel like the models are somehow unsettling. I think it's mostly how the eyes look so glassy, like there's nothing behind them. There are some like Light of My Life that are not so bad, perhaps because they are so stylized that it doesn't trigger that part of my brain.

 

[Meaning Less]

models are somehow unsettling

If you are interested that feeling was described as the uncanny valley:

The uncanny valley metaphor suggests that a human appearance or behavior can make an artificial figure seem more familiar for viewers — but only up to a point. The sense of viewer familiarity drops sharply into the uncanny valley once the artificial figure tries but fails to mimic a realistic human.
...
"I think the key is that when you make appearances humanlike, you raise expectations for the brain. When those expectations are not met, then you have the problem in the brain."

 

[Deleted member 5954819]

First, these are from some random games I found on the forums. I'm not trying to single out these games or make fun of them, but here's what I mean.

You do not have to be afraid. I don't think anyone will take that as an insult.

I have a difficult time getting into the game and story when I feel like the models are somehow unsettling

Do you feel the same way when you look at these two pictures? I mean, what arouses in me about the photos you added is that they seem artificial to me, as if they were made of plasticine (I don't know what to call it better).

 

[Cwovictor]

One thing I kinda resent is poor grammar in general. Lack of punctuation, typos, that sort of stuff. English isn't everyone's native language, that's fair, and it's also hard to write one-handed. But there's so many choices of spellchecking software out there! Unlike technical limitations like art being dubious, or engine being wonky, or models hitting the uncanny valley, it's just not a problem you need to have, y'know?

It's really not a big deal. But it's distracting. I legitimately can't help it. I'll be reading the most erotic thing in the world and be about to burst, then I'll find an elipsis missing a dot and I'm instantly no longer in the mood. It's 100% a me problem, I know. But even just a little proofreading would help boost up the game's quality at least a little.

 

[tanstaafl]

First, these are from some random games I found on the forums. I'm not trying to single out these games or make fun of them, but here's what I mean.

It gives me the same vibes as this:
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I have a difficult time getting into the game and story when I feel like the models are somehow unsettling. I think it's mostly how the eyes look so glassy, like there's nothing behind them. There are some like Light of My Life that are not so bad, perhaps because they are so stylized that it doesn't trigger that part of my brain.

Give it a year or two...or five, lol. As time passes the average person will be able to do things like this.

or this:


Instead of just the front edge of professionals.

 

[Deleted member 5954819]

Give it a year or two...or five, lol. As time passes the average person will be able to do things like this.
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or this:
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Instead of just the front edge of professionals.

What's so special about it? Making such a high-quality render is not a problem for anyone; you don't even need a powerful GPU for that. But if you would like to create visuals for your game of such quality, I will probably disappoint you, but it is simply not possible. To make one portrait in such quality is a relatively simple matter (especially if the character is of the same quality as this one), but to render several thousand scenes for a game in such quality, I would like to see how someone would do it.

In short, for your post... You don't have to wait 5 years; you can do it now. But unless you have hardware like Blizzard or Ubisoft, you can forget that a developer sitting at home can create a game of such quality

 

[Izakiya]

Do you feel the same way when you look at these two pictures? I mean, what arouses in me about the photos you added is that they seem artificial to me, as if they were made of plasticine (I don't know what to call it better).

The second one isn't too bad but the first one yes, very much so. I think the effect gets amplified when there's a shot of the character staring straight into the "camera" for those first person shots.

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This one isn't bad. If devs could do more like this it'd be nice, but I have no idea of the work required for creating hundreds of renders per update in DAZ.

 

[ThatGuy_Shaggy]

lesbians

 

[tanstaafl]

You don't have to wait 5 years; you can do it now. But unless you have hardware like Blizzard or Ubisoft, you can forget that a developer sitting at home can create a game of such quality

You do if you want hardware that can push out renders like this in a timely fashion that may be readily affordable to an average dev. That can obviously already be made it's almost gen9 default. The second one I shared was the one I was focusing on for more skill in development, but it's mostly lighting and filters which also will require hardware advancements for the average AVN dev to be able to push out faster.

8 on left 9 on right

 

[Deleted member 5954819]

You do if you want hardware that can push out renders like this in a timely fashion that may be readily affordable to an average dev. That can obviously already be made it's almost gen9 default. The second one I shared was the one I was focusing on for more skill in development, but it's mostly lighting and filters which also will require hardware advancements for the average AVN dev to be able to push out faster.

8 on left 9 on right
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The RTX A6000 in combination with the RTX 4090 could handle it quite well, but there are not many people who can afford to buy a GPU for €6,000

 

[tanstaafl]

The RTX A6000 in combination with the RTX 4090 could handle it quite well, but there are not many people who can afford to buy a GPU for €6,000

Truth, but that's kind of my point. It'll be a few years before any kind of efficient output from devs on the level of the images I shared will be somewhat affordable to the average person making AVNs.

 

[Deleted member 5954819]

Truth, but that's kind of my point. It'll be a few years before any kind of efficient output from devs on the level of the images I shared will be somewhat affordable to the average person making AVNs.

Some developers here already work with such HW, but they do it in a completely different style than I or you would expect.

There is one person who makes an even more realistic render than the photos you shared; his name is "Socrates Now," but he doesn't make games. He's just some animator who creates "Hyper Realistic 3D" porn, but if he decided one day to make a VN in the quality he's working with, I think it would take a very long time for someone to catch up with him.

 

[SpoiledPrince]

Some developers here already work with such HW, but they do it in a completely different style than I or you would expect.

There is one person who makes an even more realistic render than the photos you shared; his name is "Socrates Now," but he doesn't make games. He's just some animator who creates "Hyper Realistic 3D" porn, but if he decided one day to make a VN in the quality he's working with, I think it would take a very long time for someone to catch up with him. View attachment 2595128

The author nails the "Oh, God, I don't want to be here, but I have debts to pay" and " evaluating life choices" look.
Sad eyes, forced smile, plastic breasts... I'm not into women, but she makes me want to rescue her from the mafia and stop her suffering.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Some developers here already work with such HW, but they do it in a completely different style than I or you would expect.

There is one person who makes an even more realistic render than the photos you shared; his name is "Socrates Now," but he doesn't make games. He's just some animator who creates "Hyper Realistic 3D" porn, but if he decided one day to make a VN in the quality he's working with, I think it would take a very long time for someone to catch up with him. View attachment 2595128

I feel like a creep for looking at this. Is there some charity or rescue I can donate to that will get her out of this situation?

On an unrelated note, going for realism with AI art runs the risk of hitting the uncanny valley. Might be better to aim for a more stylized approach.