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Ren'Py Thirsty Stories [Development Thread]

wetwizard713

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Monthly sub systems pretty much screams "scam" to me (and a lot of people by now, I'd wager), due to the trend of never-ending development cycles (longer dev time = more money) and/or the eventual abandoned project. Not preemptively accusing you of this, of course, but its certainly a prevailing problem (the evidence being many many projects in this forum). People are probably more comfortable with a traditional one-time buy (steam, itchio) for a finished product, rather then a subscription to an idea or promise, by now (if I were to guess, anyways). Realistically speaking, money-wise there's probably less money to be made in a one-shot buy type of deal, but making porn games is probably not the most lucrative way of making bank, either.

That said, good luck with the rest of the development!
 

darlic

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I think there's a fallacy behind the assumption that this game will only gather a very restricted set of users. Sure, we all know it will be focused on a very peculiar fetish (that is still fairly niche), but I guess the game will also feature some other form of sexual acts. With that said, I think the key to success is to not strictly mark your game as a "watersports game", but rather as an adults-only game that focuses on vanilla sex + watersports elements. There are a lot of popular games here that are presented in a similar way (just change watersports with any other possible fetish).
The real problem arises when things become forced, which is never a good thing when it comes to sex stuff. Even a urination fetishist might not desire to see any possible scene offered by the game that involves peeing.

Do you want to make your work as much lucrative as possible (there's nothing wrong with that)? Patreon is definitely a good idea imho, I support a lot of good devs who don't use it as a milking machine and would gladly consider the idea to support this project as well if it proves to be worth my attention.
 

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darlic This is not supposed to be an "adults-only game that focuses on vanilla sex + watersports elements". This is supposed to be a game where vanilla sex is the equivalent of a Bad Ending.
 

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I understand wetwizard713. I see other devs that get an influx of supporters then let the game die with small updates and extended release periods. I could charge a dollar or two for each update and open up buy me a coffee or whatever to get periodic donations, then again I'm sure it'd get leaked somehow. I think one-time is a more honest approach considering.

darlic think of wet summer days. I already have 3 out of 4 games that have code written and renders made for ARNG that have a heartfelt storyline WITH watersports content, however, the watersports content is a cornerstone. I may not be able to market TS as adult with watersports because the game starts with a watersports enthused demon. The game centers around her possessing a man that owns an apartment to 'corrupt' others along the way, using him, for now but the corruption is in fact watersports. I'd have to remake a lot of things to differ those watersports based routes and dialogs at this point. The other games I'm working on share some of the same elements but TS is a little more naughty than those since they're more heartfelt (so more vanilla with the others). I appreciate that darlic. Maybe you'll be able to support me one day and I'd appreciate that.

I'd prefer not being tied down and also not letting anyone down so I don't want to create a paid tier system. For example, for 100 $5 patrons or supporters that want like 5 custom renders a month, that's 500 renders a month for them - taking away time for game updates. Then I may have to argue with them about not being able to create content (possibly illegal) for their pleasure. I don't have a threadripper rig or any newer RTX cards on any of my rigs (again I'm kind of broke right now).

I like the idea of buy me a coffee though where if you like it, just simply support me with donations - no commitment.

I guess through all this and looking at other threads about the same subject here and elsewhere that there really is nothing but hopes and dreams when it comes to this stuff.

I've spent HOURS sometimes on one scene doing animations with fluid sims, walking away and coming back the next day to spend HOURS on it again, so I guess it gets to a point where you're not having fun anymore and the thing you enjoy the most, that isn't giving anything back, becomes laborious.

I think of the approach to the lightbulb, however, so maybe I'm getting better. For example, I stayed up until 6-7 AM a couple days ago trying to figure out and successfully using Ren'py's UDD system so there's that. Now that I know how it works, I can effectively use it without wasting too much time (it was for a minigame).

Anyway, thanks again for the feedback. I'm going to take a break from what I'm working on right now and think about a few things.
 

Arikania

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I would support such game on Patreon if regular updates were released every few months. Especially if it didn't have just pissing scenes, but piss consumption as well. Usually games like these are about forced consumption, but not often in the form of a fetish of the protagonist or her company. I'd welcome a game like that.

You could combine it with exhibitionism elements, which is a popular fetish. (including of myself, acrtually).

But since Patreon supporters would have partial game in the initial stages, I'd recommend that you don't charge all too much for it. One reason is that with lower prices, the product (number or Patrons) * (Price) may be more beneficial. Another reason is that, with more Patrons, you get more feedback (bug reports + ideas for future versions).
 
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@darlic think of wet summer days. I already have 3 out of 4 games that have code written and renders made for ARNG that have a heartfelt storyline WITH watersports content, however, the watersports content is a cornerstone. I may not be able to market TS as adult with watersports because the game starts with a watersports enthused demon. The game centers around her possessing a man that owns an apartment to 'corrupt' others along the way, using him, for now but the corruption is in fact watersports. I'd have to remake a lot of things to differ those watersports based routes and dialogs at this point. The other games I'm working on share some of the same elements but TS is a little more naughty than those since they're more heartfelt (so more vanilla with the others). I appreciate that darlic. Maybe you'll be able to support me one day and I'd appreciate that.
Ok now that I see the whole picture my first suggestion is not valid anymore. I expected it to have a fair amount of general sex stuff but I see it's not the case.

The second part of my post still stands though, you will need to add a lot of do you want to see this/that scene yes/no statements (it shouldn't be that big of an effort from your side), but I believe it will pay out more in the long term as it will make people less "afraid" about watching unwanted content. Since the audience is already very small, you should take any action in your power to maximize the profit as much as possible.
 
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Ok now that I see the whole picture my first suggestion is not valid anymore. I expected it to have a fair amount of general sex stuff but I see it's not the case.

The second part of my post still stands though, you will need to add a lot of do you want to see this/that scene yes/no statements (it shouldn't be that big of an effort from your side), but I believe it will pay out more in the long term as it will make people less "afraid" about watching unwanted content. Since the audience is already very small, you should take any action in your power to maximize the profit as much as possible.
They all will have general/vanilla sex. TS is just a little more naughty with the watersports is all. I was just pointing out at least with the basic storyline, TS has watersports ingrained to the entire plot. The other games, not so much. I can make a menu for them so they're not that saturated but I can also put levels of watersports in as well which would be a simple click at the top on a UI button. Maybe level 0 is none all the way to level 2 with full on watersports. I can also make a slider in preferences.
 
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Where can I find the Discord link?

I prefer girls & women petite. Not as in "acting like kids", but as in not having extremely developed attributes like being too muscular or having very large breasts. That really turns me off!
 
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Just as a follow up to make this clear, I make a lot of 'shorties' but they don't act like kids. None of the games I make have any illegal stuff in it and they don't act that way either.

Just got done writing a FAQ on the discord for my group ARNGs that mentions this. They're small girls that are of age. They don't have disproportional features though. Cute butts and tits - maybe a chubbier butt and bigger tits on some but that's it.

If the rest of you guys didn't know I am beta releasing 2 games - one does not have a dev thread on here that I have been secretly writing for the past 3 months. That game has a lesbian and male MC and one 18 year old character they engage with. I have a short description of the game that's on the discord but I may post it on SS so it's public.

I've decided to make watersports a cornerstone of both of these games. If that means they'll be enjoyed by a few that's fine. They're more fun writing what I want to write and rendering scenes with stuff I want to see so I'd rather pursue this goal instead of making everything vanilla and just telling a story. I hope you guys understand.
 
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From Discord:

"Everyone, I'll be working all day tomorrow on the games doing renders and scripting. Saturday and Sunday I have some IRL things I need to do that just came up. I am trying my best to get them out ASAP so please bear with me. I know I asked a few to test the betas but I also don't want to disappoint when they're available for you to play. Please give me a little time to make sure they're good enough for you guys that have played well made games. I hope they're well made and fun games, and I am also hoping with this beta release, your feedback, and the scenes you want to see after you see how the games are, ARNGs can finally release games that are worthy enough to play for the adult gaming community. I really appreciate you guys and hope you all well. I may be back tomorrow with an update on the progress but it may be Sunday when I'm able to. Again, please be patient with me as both games are needing attention and I am just one person."
 

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Thirsty Stories is still being worked on in its beta phase. Going to take a lot from Southern Nights and plug it into TS hopefully to speed up coding. I just released a beta version of Southern Nights to beta users a little while ago. I'm posting here to let everyone for this game know if Southern Nights does well, I will jump back on Thirsty Stories to to get a beta release out. If not then I will decide what to do from there. Southern Nights has a lot of work needing to be done. I can at least say the game is coded well enough to be played and has some stuff in it that's neat. Anyway, thought I'd let everyone know where I'm at.

*edit I haven't bothered with a dev thread with Southern Nights because I had already wrote most of the game over the past few months and it didn't seem that important. I really want that dev label on here someday though :(:cry:
 
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These were cards that were going to be a part of the leveling system in this game. No worries. Planning on redoing them since some seem grainy. Enjoy.
 

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Added a poll to the Southern Nights game. This game may get one too. I'm reviewing this game to see if I can plug in some stuff from Southern Nights to make this work a little more standard. Anyway, wanted to let you guys know both games are being reviewed.
 

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Beta 0.8 download has been added to the OP. Has story line stuff and a few naughty things. If you play it and get to Amelia in the apartment cleaning, then you're at the end of the content. There's also 3 girls so have fun figuring out how to unlock the 3rd girl.

This game has NOT been worked on in months so if you have issues then let me know.
 

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I've rendered and worked so much in daz3d and blender for Thirsty Stories but I thought what the hell.....so tempting to switch it over.....it took way less time to do the videos below (and a few other things).

What do you think should I pull the trigger?

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