Thx for the info. I would suggest to make a FAQ and ask the mods to add it to the first post. That info you could also attach to other places.
IDGAF about NTR one way or the other, I have one rule "there shall be no penis in my pornography" follow that rule with the vagatarian route and we cool. Phallic shaped shaped toys and objects is fine.
If it is about that. As a real NTR genre disliker( I just do not like those stories and tropes of that genre) and having tried many times my opinion is avoidable NTR just does not exist in the end. You can make a certain scene avoidable or skippable, but you can not change the setup of your game. If a game is build up around having a sexual antagonist as focus that has to be able to succeed or 50% or more of game focuses on others as MC having sex just avoiding a few scenes does not work, since those other people just will not find (enough) in your game what they are looking for whatever their definition of NTR is. Only thing you can do is be open about what your game focuses on and intends to be. Only extra trouble with NTR asshole/bitches scenes is it might make LI's too unlikable as well, but that is another problem.
The current issue, that is raising this.If it is about that. As a real NTR genre disliker( I just do not like those stories and tropes of that genre) and having tried many times my opinion is avoidable NTR just does not exist in the end. You can make a certain scene avoidable or skippable, but you can not change the setup of your game. If a game is build up around having a sexual antagonist as focus that has to be able to succeed or 50% or more of game focuses on others as MC having sex just avoiding a few scenes does not work, since those other people just will not find (enough) in your game what they are looking for whatever their definition of NTR is. Only thing you can do is be open about what your game focuses on and intends to be. Only extra trouble with NTR asshole/bitches scenes is it might make LI's too unlikable as well, but that is another problem.
You cannot make everyone happy and as a dev should not even try, being to inclusive and having to many kinks rather waters down games as improve them for most people. I will overlook more if characters do have depth and are more grey and there is a real good story I overlook a lot of things that may not be my cup of tea, but if 90% of the kinks or sexual content are boring to me in a game I rarely tend to keep playing them.
yes it will be sweet & romantic, if you continue down the romance path, but you will be able to get it quicker on the corruption path, but won't really be all that sweet or romantic.
I'am part of the anti-NTR crowd, but even for me it's just dumb that someone could see a hint of it in such a scene, same with the Boob poke.
To me that would not be NTR, but I am just one person. Hell to me even carpet munching would not be per se NTR in such a context, even if I find lesbian scenes mostly boring in male MC games. As long as they are not dating MC or strongly suggesting are only into him/her, then it starts to make less sense they would ask someone else.
Some might have problems with that masturbation scene indeed if not MC, I would not per se. Thing is there is no save route, what one person likes is boring or a turn off to someone else. Also there is a difference if you intend to tell a more romantic tale where LI's and mc are tightly connected or a bit more of an everyone fucks everyone (nukige in japanese genres). Question is why do you need it as a writer to be with the female friend, whether the scene has to be shown if is not with MC instead of referenced only and what is the goal of that in wider context of game and maybe foreshadow that in case of a more wingman scenario for example. Curiosity can also be shown in text, it does not per se needs a scene even if it can be completely fair to show it and/or made skippable based upon your wants or needs as a writer. similar crowd here. I am good if the MC/POV steals the girl not the girl being stolen for good from the MC. It's about fulfilling fantasies in these type of games mostly and losing a lover never really a thing I want.I'am part of the anti-NTR crowd, but even for me it's just dumb that someone could see a hint of it in such a scene, same with the Boob poke.
People are too sensitive nowadays ...
Yup the whole neotare thing is also if a LI is having sexual contact with someone else without the MC knowing.
yeah this game is shit even from forum info...just glad i avoided it completly...
The thing is - it makes sense in this thread, because the DEV is clearly getting fucked over by the definition of it on itch and steam ...As always, another game thread of NTR debate
Perhaps people could familiarise themselves with the various types, then we could end this coming up all the time.
Yeah cos people won't familiarise themselves with the various types.
Yeah, the spoken understanding is something that is part of all this, While this was delayed on female, on male route when you finish the conversation with Alex about her interest in you, it has several outcomes, either you wanting to be only with her, or you being with both her and nicole (it will come up later about you being with others as well.), or you staying with Nicole.Thx for the info. I would suggest to make a FAQ and ask the mods to add it to the first post. That info you could also attach to other places.
I obviously can't see answers you have given to others via PM
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My 2 Cents regarding the NTR discussion:
I think clear communication between the characters makes them more likeable for me and at the same time gives a player choice. I played V0.48 with the Sancho Mod and together there were clear choices and options to choose the relationship with alex. A major plus point for me!
I just finished playing Cosy Cafe V0.6 and the most awesome thing for me was the MC who straight up said what he wanted. The game barely has any choices but the dude still straight up says what he wants. And the story is awesome because there is 0 relationship drama.
Giving players the choice of what the expectation of the MC is makes the most satisfying stories imo. If a player gets the option to early state that their intention is to make a harem and it creates no drama it can be completely awesome.
Forcing me into actions that feel like cheating is way worse for me personally. I will do it because I am playing a Video Game and I want dem Titties. But I'd be more happy to get a choice in what my MC says and then what they do.
This way I can create drama if I want to and I am glad if I get some actual NTR of someone having sex with my waifu without my virtual consent.
If I want to avoid all that I just have an adult talk with any Person I am in a relationship with and tell them my expectations.
That way, when I said to the girl no intimacy with anyone else at all ever, then I can validly categorize a woman touching the breast of another woman as cheating. Not because my own weird internal sensibilities but because my MC straight up said so earlier in the story. (This can be done without foreshadowing by not giving this exact example or this exact category.)
And if I am fine with a completely open relationship because I respect the women as a individual in the role of the MC then I have no reason as a player to cry about my hurt feelings when one of the woman sends me a video of her in a gangbang with 10 other guys covered in jizz.
Because I, as the player, did choose to have this kind of virtual relationship with the girl within the story.
we r not responsible for stupid devs
Talking about the people arguing about it, not the dev.we r not responsible for stupid devs
now start cry about that it will fit a plot, it is only little bit of story,or it is more realistic...yeah we heared this before and did not helped then and will not now...
