VN Ren'Py Tides of Succession [Ch.3 v0.3] [TakMycket]

[jadepaladin]

Yeah, I am a bit worried about trying throuple path because I wouldn't find it believable after playing Lorelei's solo path, she very clearly just wants an exclusive relationship and I feel anything else will feel ooc, and Glade also doesn't seem the type that would be open to share with the princess with how jealous they both seem to each other, without having tried the throuple route I will say that route looks a bit forced right now.

I will still give it a chance at some point but It will probably be the last path I play if I do.

It's not pretty. Not in the unbelievable kind of way though. It's exactly how you call it. Two women, unwilling to share, suddenly find themselves competing for the same MC who can't make his mind up. I think Tak did a good job in that there's real drama here, and they both aren't suddenly "Oh we can play nice and we both want him." Like Krytax said, I came out of that route liking everyone involved just a little less.

 

[jacu_ZZ_i]

I think this is a bug, where when player click Glade guidance, it shows Kasula guidance instead of Glade


And on Glade Yandere path, there's this typo on the first sentence, should ke Kasula instead of Gasula

 

[Elduriel]

I think this is a bug, where when player click Glade guidance, it shows Kasula guidance instead of Glade
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And on Glade Yandere path, there's this typo on the first sentence, should ke Kasula instead of Gasula
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seems outdated anyway, there are no more yandere and whatnot routes, been simplified, see pdf wt

 

[jacu_ZZ_i]

seems outdated anyway, there are no more yandere and whatnot routes, been simplified, see pdf wt

Is it the google docs one?

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Yeah man, yeez, she gets hardcore cucked not just physically but emotionally too lol. The throuple path feels VERY VERY uncomfortable to me, its my by far least liked playthrough. Lorelei seems a bit too pathetic on this path and glade a bit too obsessed lol

Yeah, I am a bit worried about trying throuple path because I wouldn't find it believable after playing Lorelei's solo path, she very clearly just wants an exclusive relationship and I feel anything else will feel ooc, and Glade also doesn't seem the type that would be open to share with the princess with how jealous they both seem to each other, without having tried the throuple route I will say that route looks a bit forced right now.

I will still give it a chance at some point but It will probably be the last path I play if I do.

That means its more realistic. Its pretty natural and realistic for any girl to hope for monogamy and not share their man. Does not mean its a forced path.

People here are so haremified by playing AVNs that we think any type of poly relationship should not have any problems/conflicts and the girls should just blindly accept the dynamic without any sort of expression of their anger and dissatisfaction. It has to be uncomfortable and it has to have problems initially, it just makes it more realistic.

Poly relationships i.e. a man having multiple wives/partners is accepted in the world of tides, so although the girls are expecting not to share MC initially which gives the game a more realistic look, them later on agreeing to share the MC and be a part of his relationship does not mean the path would become forced, they would rather share his love than lose him altogether. Character & relationship building takes time, so people judging it soo early and labeling it as forced is unfair, its realistic not forced.

 

[Elduriel]

Is it the google docs one?

yep

 

[Meiri]

That means its more realistic. Its pretty natural and realistic for any girl to hope for monogamy and not share their man. Does not mean its a forced path.

People here are so haremified by playing AVNs that we think any type of poly relationship should not have any problems/conflicts and the girls should just blindly accept the dynamic without any sort of expression of their anger and dissatisfaction. It has to be uncomfortable and it has to have problems initially, it just makes it more realistic.

Poly relationships i.e. a man having multiple wives/partners is accepted in the world of tides, so although the girls are expecting not to share MC initially which gives the game a more realistic look, them later on agreeing to share the MC and be a part of his relationship does not mean the path would become forced, they would rather share his love than lose him altogether. Character & relationship building takes time, so people judging it soo early and labeling it as forced is unfair, its realistic not forced.

That's actually a good point, too many games here normalize Harems and girls will have no problem sharing since the beginning.
Harems have to make sense, whether because it is a post-apocalyptic or fantasy society where normal rules don't apply, or just a normal world but the dev has spent time explaining how and why it works, but if in the game the girls just quickly accept the Harem no questions asked and is your typical school AVN for example, I quickly lose interest honestly.

Still in this game I will still probably wait until it's my last route to try and it's a bit more developed so I can see a bit of how the girls while accept each other.

 

[jacu_ZZ_i]

yep

Thanks man

 

[Dessolos]

That's actually a good point, too many games here normalize Harems and girls will have no problem sharing since the beginning.
Harems have to make sense, whether because it is a post-apocalyptic or fantasy society where normal rules don't apply, or just a normal world but the dev has spent time explaining how and why it works, but if in the game the girls just quickly accept the Harem no questions asked and is your typical school AVN for example, I quickly lose interest honestly.

Still in this game I will still probably wait until it's my last route to try and it's a bit more developed so I can see a bit of how the girls while accept each other.

Yeah I rarely play harems myself for the reason you said but the ones I do play I don't mind and let believability go out the window and just enjoy it for what it is. But for me to do that I need either a Harem game with a story I like and mostly play for the story or the LI are really fun or likeable where it's a game I play for the characters. But even a really good and believable Harem is nothing compared to a game with solo paths , solo paths are way more enjoyable for me.

 

[Natev]

just played it for the first time can't stand it don't like the choses your forced to make and I don't think I even made it out of the first chapter didn't finish it and never will

 

[Pixillin']

Yeah I rarely play harems myself for the reason you said but the ones I do play I don't mind and let believability go out the window and just enjoy it for what it is. But for me to do that I need either a Harem game with a story I like and mostly play for the story or the LI are really fun or likeable where it's a game I play for the characters. But even a really good and believable Harem is nothing compared to a game with solo paths , solo paths are way more enjoyable for me.

I think the Harem thing is just about keeping any and all negativity out of the games. So guys can enter a world where women just automatically love/ want to fuck them, there's no cheating / seeing other guys on the part of the women but guys can do it to their hearts content and they get to pick all the girls, rather than choosing just one because that way there's no weird jealousy or arguments or women being mad at them for cheating and also they don't have to break up with anyone. We can't discuss other games so I can't go into the relative handful where it sorta makes sense but ... yeah. It's all part of fantasy land for guys.

 

[Dessolos]

just played it for the first time can't stand it don't like the choses your forced to make and I don't think I even made it out of the first chapter didn't finish it and never will

sorry im bored and found this meme I wanted to use it lol

 

[Pixillin']

just played it for the first time can't stand it don't like the choses your forced to make and I don't think I even made it out of the first chapter didn't finish it and never will

There are no games that appeal to everyone, glad you took the time to try it.

 

[Krytax123]

That means its more realistic. Its pretty natural and realistic for any girl to hope for monogamy and not share their man. Does not mean its a forced path.

People here are so haremified by playing AVNs that we think any type of poly relationship should not have any problems/conflicts and the girls should just blindly accept the dynamic without any sort of expression of their anger and dissatisfaction. It has to be uncomfortable and it has to have problems initially, it just makes it more realistic.

Poly relationships i.e. a man having multiple wives/partners is accepted in the world of tides, so although the girls are expecting not to share MC initially which gives the game a more realistic look, them later on agreeing to share the MC and be a part of his relationship does not mean the path would become forced, they would rather share his love than lose him altogether. Character & relationship building takes time, so people judging it soo early and labeling it as forced is unfair, its realistic not forced.

Uh talk about not getting the point?

Im pretty sure the people who feel uncomfortable about it (like me) are not the usual harem players. In harem avns i like conflict and consequences/etablishment of a harem but i prefer avns with single routes any day.

And i even enjoy jealousy between LI's, what i do enjoy less is if the MC behaves manipulative towards the girl to get what he wants and/or dismissive of their feelings/emotions, even more when they somehow fall even more due to it.

I wouldnt call it forced either but realisticly this thing doesnt lead to a happy relationship, not to a happy poly relationship either with such a buildup/setup. Sure its apparently accepted to have multiple wifes but its questionable if these are really happy relationships like the MC envisions for himself.

If he has the goal to have/get multiple wifes, hes handling/managing that really fucked up lol

realistic would now be a loveless marraige while having fun with his mistress glade

but i never said the path is bad anyway, just that playing it makes me feel uncomfortable because of the behavior of the MC and because Lorelei looks very pathetic

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Uh talk about not getting the point?

Im pretty sure the people who feel uncomfortable about it (like me) are not the usual harem players. In harem avns i like conflict and consequences/etablishment of a harem but i prefer avns with single routes any day.

And i even enjoy jealousy between LI's, what i do enjoy less is if the MC behaves manipulative towards the girl to get what he wants and/or dismissive of their feelings/emotions, even more when they somehow fall even more due to it.

I wouldnt call it forced either but realisticly this thing doesnt lead to a happy relationship, not to a happy poly relationship either with such a buildup/setup. Sure its apparently accepted to have multiple wifes but its questionable if these are really happy relationships like the MC envisions for himself.

If he has the goal to have/get multiple wifes, hes handling/managing that really fucked up lol

realistic would now be a loveless marraige while having fun with his mistress glade

but i never said the path is bad anyway, just that playing it makes me feel uncomfortable because of the behavior of the MC and because Lorelei looks very pathetic

MC is not "Trying" to do anything. He has no thoughts of having a throuple, nowhere the game gave any idea MC wants to have both of them, he is indeed confused but the thought he could have both of them is not there in his mind, unless i missed something.

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MC is not manipulating lorelei, if you mean the scene where glade starts kissing him in front of lorelei in their bed, thats not MC manipulating lorelei or being dismissive of her, he is confused ofcourse and glade is wayy to possessive and marking her territory in front of her competition. And lorelei specifically is not pathetic for it, her nature and her character is miles different from glade. She is not a possessive and outspoken girl, she is shy and reserved, she is very kind by nature, and thats what may give you the idea that she is "pathetic" and getting run over by everyone, but you cannot be more wrong. A reserved person does not equate to a pathetic person.

I'm pretty sure as initially glade is getting the upper hand on the throuple, tides will turn in favor of lorelei soon. Being a pure & kind loving soul does not make a person pathetic. There's a reason why she is the most loved LI in the game.

 

[CWIPS]

Just a note to say that I really enjoyed this game, the setting, story and especially the characters, and I'm eager to see more.

 

[Krytax123]

MC is not "Trying" to do anything. He has no thoughts of having a throuple, nowhere the game gave any idea MC wants to have both of them, he is indeed confused but the thought he could have both of them is not there in his mind, unless i missed something.

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MC is not manipulating lorelei, if you mean the scene where glade starts kissing him in front of lorelei in their bed, thats not MC manipulating lorelei or being dismissive of her, he is confused ofcourse and glade is wayy to possessive and marking her territory in front of her competition. And lorelei specifically is not pathetic for it, her nature and her character is miles different from glade. She is not a possessive and outspoken girl, she is shy and reserved, she is very kind by nature, and thats what may give you the idea that she is "pathetic" and getting run over by everyone, but you cannot be more wrong. A reserved person does not equate to a pathetic person.

I'm pretty sure as initially glade is getting the upper hand on the throuple, tides will turn in favor of lorelei soon. Being a pure & kind loving soul does not make a person pathetic. There's a reason why she is the most loved LI in the game.

Man bro you dont get me at all, maybe im describing it shitty.

Lorelei is my favorite LI (i like them all tho) so i dont see her as pathetic in general. But she comes off as pathetic² on this path.

Just change the genders for a second and there would be another competitor for lorelei's affection and he would join the bedroom while shes in the bed with the mc and making out with her (marking his territory ...) and the MC doing nothing about it. Its UTTERLY pathetic and you, me and everyone else (but ntr lovers) would rightfully hate it.

Shes so "in love" that she allows herself to be disrespected and ridiculed. And the MC allows this to happen which is imo manipulative towards a spouse/bethroed you claim you maybe have feelings for.

And yeah the MC lacked any kind of decision or communication skills so the girls kinda had to work it out themselfes (which to me honestly felt - similar to his courtyard conversation - like faciliated excuses for his greed/indecision/imaturity from the story lol

A realistic outcome of this setup would be a loveless marriage and the mc probably switching mistresses (because he cant decide and is confused :/) every month if you really want to look at it from that angle

 

[EZ8lt]

I think the Harem thing is just about keeping any and all negativity out of the games. So guys can enter a world where women just automatically love/ want to fuck them, there's no cheating / seeing other guys on the part of the women but guys can do it to their hearts content and they get to pick all the girls, rather than choosing just one because that way there's no weird jealousy or arguments or women being mad at them for cheating and also they don't have to break up with anyone. We can't discuss other games so I can't go into the relative handful where it sorta makes sense but ... yeah. It's all part of fantasy land for guys.

It's not just fantasy land, it's more like I'd rather not keep around 9 different saves and playthroughs for 3 women. In many games, there's even more, often at least with 2 alternatives, corruption or love or whatevers. That bloats the game af, and makes it overall more forgetable especially when releases are more than a month between. Having a harem or more like whicever women you want to in the loop is simply more convinient as a player. Not to mention it also doesn't require extended development time or separating updates between this and that routes.

 

[slick97]

It's not just fantasy land, it's more like I'd rather not keep around 9 different saves and playthroughs for 3 women. In many games, there's even more, often at least with 2 alternatives, corruption or love or whatevers. That bloats the game af, and makes it overall more forgetable especially when releases are more than a month between. Having a harem or more like whicever women you want to in the loop is simply more convinient as a player. Not to mention it also doesn't require extended development time or separating updates between this and that routes.

That's one interpretation of why some players are drawn to harem games, but others may just be enamored by multiple LIs and refuse to let any of them go. Tides is a bit different in that each LI is more fleshed out than a typical H game with each one having their own desires and quirks.


Unrelated to the quote above, the throuple path between Glade and Lorelei - despite being frustrating - emulates the player choosing that path fairly well. While some players choose that path purely due to loving both characters, the reality of a path like that existing can be attributed moreso to indecisiveness on which character they genuinely love.

To look at it from another perspective, Tobias only really knows Glade and Lorelei for a very short amount of time. Lorelei was intended to be a political marriage while Glade's presence was a complete coincidence, and yet both characters rush head first into loving Tobias. With how much is in flux early on it's unsurprising if both the player and Tobias feel unsure about who they love since both hardly know anything about the two women.

In an honest situation, I myself would feel pretty conflicted if I had multiple girls declaring their intense feelings for me. I'd want a chance to explore my feelings with them more before committing to anyone, which lines up with how Tobias acts as well.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

It's not just fantasy land, it's more like I'd rather not keep around 9 different saves and playthroughs for 3 women. In many games, there's even more, often at least with 2 alternatives, corruption or love or whatevers. That bloats the game af, and makes it overall more forgetable especially when releases are more than a month between. Having a harem or more like whicever women you want to in the loop is simply more convinient as a player. Not to mention it also doesn't require extended development time or separating updates between this and that routes.

I can't speak for other players but I can only speak for myself not every player likes harems

I am a monogamy player that likes to stay with one girl until the end of the game

I mean no disrespect to any Harem player when I say this but for my personal taste I hate harems

for me there's nothing better than a good monogamy story and they're so hard to find