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PaIIas_

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Are these comments saying that fans that come from other communities such as Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL, were causing issues for the TKaF developers?
Or were those just examples of unrelated communities that are also unfriendly and bother developers?

If some members of the community pushed away the main developers, then I fear what the remake will look like without those developers. Will the remaining devs turn a blind eye to harassment to keep the game the same, or will they give in to harassment and change what made the demo good in the first place.
Well all those stuff happened on Discord so people like me who were following the project without joining the discord didn't see anything happen.
It was literally months of no update on the game and then it suddenly got abandoned then they said it was because of conflict among devs and harassment from other communities.

I don't get what kind of online harassment could cause this but personally I think opening a discord server and listening to everybody's opinions seems like a stupid thing to do during game development, as it would only damage the teams morale while they could just collect people who where passionate about the game and have them playtest then listen to only them.
 

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Are these comments saying that fans that come from other communities such as Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL, were causing issues for the TKaF developers?
Or were those just examples of unrelated communities that are also unfriendly and bother developers?
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To make it abundantly clear, the Discord/YouTube/TikTok/etc sects of the Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL/etc communities are what caused this game to be abandoned. How? By joining the TKAF Discord community and getting into fights with the lead developer to the point they decided to abandon the project and sever all ties with it altogether.

This is pretty much the most straightforward explanation (albeit tainted with my personal bias) anyone could be looking for in regards to "what happened to TKAF?"
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From my summary posted year ago, a lot of people wanted to seem disingenuous and assume that these "sub-communities of communities" are all homogenous but that obviously cannot be true, and that was not what I was trying to say. The F95 community, for example, played no part in this shitshow, yet all the same suffered the consequences of the plague-like actions taken by people who happen to like the same things we do.

Was the original dev blameless? Probably not, interacting with a Discord community to the point of abandoning your own art obviously insinuates that you did something wrong along the way. But I would certainly put him as the lesser-to-blame aspect of this considering the 'Discord community replacement dev team' has evidently made exactly zero progress since then. So obviously our original departed developer had a 'slight of hand' when it came to the arts that we do not ... and also probably a shorter temper.
 
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Yes that is true until they tried to contact them again. Which resulted in them not being able to use the art assets from the demo. What they told them according to new devs twitter posts was "I forgot the entire plot so i cant tell you anything".
Which makes it very clear whatever happend they didnt like any of the new dev team.
This is somewhat true, but the reality is, the reason why Pseudo wouldn't let us use the art was directly because I offended him so badly with my understanding of the game that he prevented us from using the art. He shared nothing of the plot afaik, or at the very least whatever he did share was only with Alexey, which would make sense.
 

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This is somewhat true, but the reality is, the reason why Pseudo wouldn't let us use the art was directly because I offended him so badly with my understanding of the game that he prevented us from using the art. He shared nothing of the plot afaik, or at the very least whatever he did share was only with Alexey, which would make sense.
Is the current development going smoothly at least?
 

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Is the current development going smoothly at least?
If Alexey's still at the helm, it never will.

I will say however; I've heard a rumour of another independent venture by a Black Souls VTuber who is working on their own TKAF project solo. I have heard nothing else besides that, and I have zero clue as to whether or not it will be good. AFAIK, they were not active in the TKAF discord, primarily just a lurker. All I know is, they're a VTuber and they made Mary Ann a boy for some reason.

Personally that kills it for me, Mary Ann is wife, not boywife. But alas, if it comes out and it's your thing, go ahead and try it out. I also would same the same for the original community project if it does come out, but let's be honest here, I'm pretty certain that will never measure up to expectations.
 

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I will say however; I've heard a rumour of another independent venture by a Black Souls VTuber who is working on their own TKAF project solo
That one is already done. Unless you are part of their community you wont get to play it because it is pw protected.
 

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If Alexey's still at the helm, it never will.

I will say however; I've heard a rumour of another independent venture by a Black Souls VTuber who is working on their own TKAF project solo. I have heard nothing else besides that, and I have zero clue as to whether or not it will be good. AFAIK, they were not active in the TKAF discord, primarily just a lurker. All I know is, they're a VTuber and they made Mary Ann a boy for some reason.

Personally that kills it for me, Mary Ann is wife, not boywife. But alas, if it comes out and it's your thing, go ahead and try it out. I also would same the same for the original community project if it does come out, but let's be honest here, I'm pretty certain that will never measure up to expectations.
Well that's a shame, all hope about TKAF seems to be lost at this point.
 

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Well that's a shame. So there's no interest in it being open to public?
Similar to Nidot(or the very same)they are very eccentric. Lots of creative idears but held back by their own lack of confidence.
On top of whatever sort of fear they have for a unknown "le bad community"(Discord people) to come after them.
 
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