Ren'Py To See Another Day [v0.0.4a] [BadPotato]

[anne O'nymous]

Great game, with an interesting approach, but please BadPotato GameDev can you clean up a bit your code?
More than 400 none returned call is purely enormous. Whatever when you use call in a label, or Call in a screen, you MUST end the called label with a return.

While the size for each entry in the call stack is low (around 200 Bytes), at this rate it will significantly weight down the RAM and, more importantly, the saves. As well as slowing down Ren'Py.

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

Great game, with an interesting approach, but please BadPotato GameDev can you clean up a bit your code?
More than 400 none returned call is purely enormous. Whatever when you use call in a label, or Call in a screen, you MUST end the called label with a return.

While the size for each entry in the call stack is low (around 200 Bytes), at this rate it will significantly weight down the RAM and, more importantly, the saves. As well as slowing down Ren'Py.

Thank you for pointing this out to me. I did not know that was an issue, but I do plan on overhauling much of my code very soon to update things since I've gotten a handle on it more.
In the meantime, I looked it up and added the following every night when the day resets to clear all non returned calls:

$ while renpy.call_stack_depth() > 0: renpy.pop_call()

This should at least help mitigate some of the problem while I'm still redoing things?

 

[anne O'nymous]

This should at least help mitigate some of the problem while I'm still redoing things?

As long as the part of the code where you put it isn't called, yes it will mitigate the problem.

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

As long as the part of the code where you put it isn't called, yes it will mitigate the problem.

Thank you, and yes, I added at the very end of the day reset loop which now ends with:


$ while renpy.call_stack_depth() > 0: renpy.pop_call()
show screen stats
jump HBed1

 

[Sypher]

Feel free to disregard, but I have an idea for the delirium infection that allows the player a bit more agency in how quickly it builds. The way I understand it right now. It feels like the infection builds by avoiding interaction with the infected?

Since she can be in combat with the player, why not give her some neat superpowered combat abilities that raise infection when used?

Example: Super powered kick, +25-50% damage, 25% miss chance, +5% infection. | Feral Sense, +25% Crit chance and +25% Avoid damage chance for 2-4 turns, +10% infection.

Lore-wise, the more she depends on the infection, the more it takes hold. The more she leans on the power, the more she's influenced by the infection. At high infection she might lose love with the player and raise corruption passively over night. I speak from a point of ignorance, I've no idea of the difficulty that is to implement. But I think having a bit more control over the infection could be fun and spice up combat. Other players might not like being outshined by the companion, but she's a super-powered sex predator, that's kinda the point. She should hit hard, and be scarier than the player.

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

Feel free to disregard, but I have an idea for the delirium infection that allows the player a bit more agency in how quickly it builds. The way I understand it right now. It feels like the infection builds by avoiding interaction with the infected?

Since she can be in combat with the player, why not give her some neat superpowered combat abilities that raise infection when used?

Example: Super powered kick, +25-50% damage, 25% miss chance, +5% infection. | Feral Sense, +25% Crit chance and +25% Avoid damage chance for 2-4 turns, +10% infection.

Lore-wise, the more she depends on the infection, the more it takes hold. The more she leans on the power, the more she's influenced by the infection. At high infection she might lose love with the player and raise corruption passively over night. I speak from a point of ignorance, I've no idea of the difficulty that is to implement. But I think having a bit more control over the infection could be fun and spice up combat. Other players might not like being outshined by the companion, but she's a super-powered sex predator, that's kinda the point. She should hit hard, and be scarier than the player.

All I'll say is... WAY more to come with her regarding all of that. Just have to wait until she is fully unleashed and can enter her futa form

We are basically still in the training wheels stage of the game lol

 

[Asherandai]

Feel free to disregard, but I have an idea for the delirium infection that allows the player a bit more agency in how quickly it builds. The way I understand it right now. It feels like the infection builds by avoiding interaction with the infected?

Since she can be in combat with the player, why not give her some neat superpowered combat abilities that raise infection when used?

Example: Super powered kick, +25-50% damage, 25% miss chance, +5% infection. | Feral Sense, +25% Crit chance and +25% Avoid damage chance for 2-4 turns, +10% infection.

Lore-wise, the more she depends on the infection, the more it takes hold. The more she leans on the power, the more she's influenced by the infection. At high infection she might lose love with the player and raise corruption passively over night. I speak from a point of ignorance, I've no idea of the difficulty that is to implement. But I think having a bit more control over the infection could be fun and spice up combat. Other players might not like being outshined by the companion, but she's a super-powered sex predator, that's kinda the point. She should hit hard, and be scarier than the player.

As she is now the player outshines her easily. And that's at lv5.

Just saying I don't think the companion outshining the player is really an issue.

 

[arpecuz]

Will this game feature gender transition/transformation? As sort of eluded to by the main menu screen?

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

Will this game feature gender transition/transformation? As sort of eluded to by the main menu screen?

Hello!
I've seen this question before and I am quite confused by what you mean as I hadn't included anything like that in the main menu images.

I will say though that there is a specific character later on that may go through some changes but as for the main character no. Beyond some potential shenanigans much later in the story that I have planned... nothing permanent to the main character.

It's well known that Ophelia, the main female npc, has a slew of changes of her own being unlocking a futa form later on and swapping between Hybrid/Delirious forms

 

[whatever?]

Hmm do is have Android port yet?, i dont know why but cant seem to let joiplay run is, just blackout in like 5s

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

Hmm do is have Android port yet?, i don't know why but cant seem to let joiplay run is, just blackout in like 5s

Hello!
I do not have an official android port at this time. In Feb/March I'll be looking into adding support for it, but depending on how complex it may be, I may not support every single version on android because looking into it, I've read horror stories of dev's having to redo large chunks of their code to be android friendly... so if that is still the case and it is a nightmare to port over... I may only do major update support.

And as for Joiplay, looking into it, it seems that they do not yet support games built with the newest version of Ren'py (8.5.1) I'm finding mixed information, but the bulk seem to point to the latest they support is games built with or before v8.2

If the above attempt at making an official version fails or is just to much work for me as a solo dev on top of everything else, I'll look into what I'll need to change to be at least Renpy v8.2 friendly.

~Cheers!

 

[whatever?]

Hello!
I do not have an official android port at this time. In Feb/March I'll be looking into adding support for it, but depending on how complex it may be, I may not support every single version on android because looking into it, I've read horror stories of dev's having to redo large chunks of their code to be android friendly... so if that is still the case and it is a nightmare to port over... I may only do major update support.

And as for Joiplay, looking into it, it seems that they do not yet support games built with the newest version of Ren'py (8.5.1) I'm finding mixed information, but the bulk seem to point to the latest they support is games built with or before v8.2

If the above attempt at making an official version fails or is just to much work for me as a solo dev on top of everything else, I'll look into what I'll need to change to be at least Renpy v8.2 friendly.

~Cheers!

Ty for rep, waiting then, game look kinda fun

 

[Sypher]

As she is now the player outshines her easily. And that's at lv5.

Just saying I don't think the companion outshining the player is really an issue.

I think it's fine for the player to outshine her half-delirious form, that kinda makes sense with the main-character. But in her full delirious form, she's a hyper-sex-predator who regularly goes on killing sprees. I wouldn't mind if her combat power reflected that.

Technically, she's been in the world for awhile and has combat experience. The player should be playing catch up with her for a bit.

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

I think it's fine for the player to outshine her half-delirious form, that kinda makes sense with the main-character. But in her full delirious form, she's a hyper-sex-predator who regularly goes on killing sprees. I wouldn't mind if her combat power reflected that.

Technically, she's been in the world for awhile and has combat experience. The player should be playing catch up with her for a bit.

Unfortunately here is the thing I struggle with... make her too OP right from the start and the player doesn't have to do anything. They can just sit there and heal while she murders every single enemy... kinda defeating the purpose of combat a little....

If it was during an event? Absolutely lol... but...Game play mechanics lol...

What I will say because either tomorrow or the next day I'm going to post list of everything coming to the game mechanics wise either in Act 1 that has already been hinted at, or things that will be available from the start for new players in the future...
But one of the things that's on my list of things to implement is upgradeable stats for your companions as well. They will be getting their own stats page as well as equipment that you can give them and that should help with turning her back into the murder machine that she is during events lol.

lol... me and my long winded answers for everything on here... but a game I play now and then is path of exile... in the main story you're literally killing Gods and cosmic eldritch beings... but you can still get fucking 1 shot by a lvl 84 enemy in the endgame that is found in the literal starting beach at lvl 1... lol gotta give the players a challenge.

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

Actually, I decided to say fuckit and got it done now along with a Poll

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[Asherandai]

Actually, I decided to say fuckit and got it done now along with a Poll

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I Know nothing about developing, but I've seen a lot of devs struggle with mechanics they should have fixed/implemented earlier. So I'd recommend getting all the basics that you intend to be in there sorted asap.

 

[Sypher]

Unfortunately here is the thing I struggle with... make her too OP right from the start and the player doesn't have to do anything. They can just sit there and heal while she murders every single enemy... kinda defeating the purpose of combat a little....

If it was during an event? Absolutely lol... but...Game play mechanics lol...

What I will say because either tomorrow or the next day I'm going to post list of everything coming to the game mechanics wise either in Act 1 that has already been hinted at, or things that will be available from the start for new players in the future...
But one of the things that's on my list of things to implement is upgradeable stats for your companions as well. They will be getting their own stats page as well as equipment that you can give them and that should help with turning her back into the murder machine that she is during events lol.

lol... me and my long winded answers for everything on here... but a game I play now and then is path of exile... in the main story you're literally killing Gods and cosmic eldritch beings... but you can still get fucking 1 shot by a lvl 84 enemy in the endgame that is found in the literal starting beach at lvl 1... lol gotta give the players a challenge.

Please excuse my constant comments, lol. I also can get somewhat long winded.

I completely understand that you have to keep game balance. But, with narrative control of the story, you can use that in ways to dampen her combat prowess. If she's turned half-turned, then that's easy, she's weaker because she's used to being a killing machine and she needs to get used to her weakened state. If she's full delirious then maybe she doesn't want to join the player until she's sure he can defend himself from her if she loses control. It's already alluded to that she's stalking the player when he goes out anyways because she's always there to bring you back if you lose. If you don't want to deprive the player of companions, you could add mercenaries to the trader area.

But this is just chit-chat, no need to think seriously about any of this. I'm just giving un-asked for advice afterall. Thank you for your diligence.

 

[BadPotato GameDev]

Please excuse my constant comments, lol. I also can get somewhat long winded.

I completely understand that you have to keep game balance. But, with narrative control of the story, you can use that in ways to dampen her combat prowess. If she's turned half-turned, then that's easy, she's weaker because she's used to being a killing machine and she needs to get used to her weakened state. If she's full delirious then maybe she doesn't want to join the player until she's sure he can defend himself from her if she loses control. It's already alluded to that she's stalking the player when he goes out anyways because she's always there to bring you back if you lose. If you don't want to deprive the player of companions, you could add mercenaries to the trader area.

But this is just chit-chat, no need to think seriously about any of this. I'm just giving un-asked for advice afterall. Thank you for your diligence.

Fully understand, and yeah her hybrid form is already weaker than her Delirious form, the amount of how much weaker she'll be will probably increase soon because at the rate the poll is going over on my patreon, bulk of people don't seem to mind if I take Feb to really get to the backlog of mechanics which will include companions also having their own stats to level + equipment.
Something I HAD been toying with... is yes fully restoring her killing ability in her 2nd state BUT she needs rest after the bloodshed as to not give into the Delirium completely... so it could be a thing where you bring her out in her Delirium forms at key points to do maximum damage/for extremely difficult upcoming fights.

The other companions won't get this kind of cooldown, they may have something to them, but nothing to that degree. There very much is a story reason as to why she'll need it... but... That's VERY big spoilers
And then of course, Her in her Hybrid form will have a much lesser condition involved. I.e. killing has a chance to either up her corruption by a little or in some cases.. might jump her corruption up significantly depending on the type of enemy.

And as for mercenaries... lol already planned for Act II. Already have several scenes/locations set up where you'll be able to hire mercenaries from different factions. Some mercenaries will have perma death if they have side quests attached to them, but the bulk will be standard to those factions.
If you've ever wondered what those different currencies are in your inventory... Trader Tokens, Crimson Coins, Delirium Ducats.... Yup. I put that there from the start as an extremely early tease to confuse people up until it began to make sense as those and others will be the currencies used for those different factions.
If you look at what used to be the first image on the main menu, you'll be able to spot 2 of the story mercenaries fighting behind the mc and Ophelia

~Cheers!