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Dole

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Why we have so much old bugs?

It is getting pretty ridiculous to write that the game get bugfixing and the game looks to the version before the same high bug rate.

1) Journal-Ellie Return to game</div> , you can go back it is in white and not in black so it isn`t correct - old bug

2) Ellie phoned your the second time
She hags up the phone.</ div> - </ div> should be not there (looks like near above)

3) Casino - play blackjack don`t work anymore - you can`t win or lose the money is all time the same

4 a) Gym - week subscription don`t work - you must pay all time 50$ and it works as a today 15€
4 b) Gym - today aso don`t work correct- you must pay all time 15€ when you went on a day 3xtimes to the gym you pay 45€

5) Lola - Hero What? Are you serious?</i> - </i> should be not there

6) Journal - Sabina - Error: cannot find a closing tag for macro <<if>>
6a) The Warehouse is in the Journal blacked out and I haven`t done it - Why is it not first blacked out when you have really done it?

7) Ignore this event don`t work - you play further so Sarah went out - no option to go on another place

8) Hero
Error: cannot find a closing tag for HTML <i> - macro bug
I still don't trust her, but I guess it's not my problem.. Now I guess I have to decide if I tell the FBI lady, what was her name again? Oh yes, Ms. Thompson. Anyway, should I give her a call or trust Sabina and stay loyal to her?

9) look in the bar - I have it 3xtime (evening) it stucks no text and no option to go back (only the back arrow) - old bug
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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How on earth do you even go on a date with Sarah?

I've never seen any prompts other than "talk with"/"go to"/"kiss her".....

Dev says in early post the walkthrough answers many things, Imo, bluntly, the walkthrough is friggin awful... I can't tell if it's written by english as a second language, but with sentences like:
All below can be done after completing main story up to the point that Sarah returns home, Bdsm2 and Exhibitionist
That could be interpreted in like 5 different ways......They need to be done prior to the point sarah returns home? Sarah returning home is a prerequisite for that event? BDSM2 and exhibitionist are additional requirements? Or they're additional blocking events once you've reached them?

The first hour playing this game was enjoyable, then it just went off the rails with these convoluted event paths - it seems like individual decisions dont really matter, all that matters is how the dev decided the story should flow.

Also lol@ the first sentence of the walkthrough: "Do all Sarah and Noelle things."
 

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That could be interpreted in like 5 different ways......They need to be done prior to the point sarah returns home? Sarah returning home is a prerequisite for that event? BDSM2 and exhibitionist are additional requirements? Or they're additional blocking events once you've reached them?
"All below can be done after completing main story up to the point that Sarah returns home, Bdsm2 and Exhibitionist"

You're needlessly exaggerating. There is literally only one way to interpret that.
Up to the point = When something has happened.
In other words, once she's returned to living with the MC under the same roof that they lived together in before she moved out, and the Exhibitionist and second BDSM events have been done.

English may not be Royarus' first language, but it's definitely written clearly enough that someone who does speak English natively can understand it.

The first hour playing this game was enjoyable, then it just went off the rails with these convoluted event paths - it seems like individual decisions dont really matter, all that matters is how the dev decided the story should flow.
The choices matter, but they don't shape the overarching plot. Putting it another way, they provide variation within the overall plot like the finer details of events within a story, allowing for potential replay/roleplay value.

Also lol@ the first sentence of the walkthrough: "Do all Sarah and Noelle things."
Yeah, that one definitely needs rewording.
Would probably be better combined with the next line in a manner like "Get Sarah and Noelle relations to max".
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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"All below can be done after completing main story up to the point that Sarah returns home, Bdsm2 and Exhibitionist"

You're needlessly exaggerating. There is literally only one way to interpret that.
Up to the point = When something has happened.
In other words, once she's returned to living with the MC under the same roof that they lived together in before she moved out, and the Exhibitionist and second BDSM events have been done.
No.

I generally like to be reasonable with people and good faith, but No.

This is just a blatant misrepresentation of a ambigious sentence from the start - so much in that it calls your own command of the English language into question. The issue is the lack of punctation or clauses, and the ambiguity of phrases like "can be".

All below can be done after completing main story, up to the point that Sarah returns home
has a very different meaning from
All below can be done after completing [main story up to the point that Sarah returns home]
What I think the author is TRYING to say is:

All of the tasks below require progressing through the main story to the point that Sarah returns home, as well as completion of "BSDM2" and "exhibitionist"
Furthermore, there's no contextual clues in the "Main Story" section, as there's no specific reference to Sarah returning home. Indeed, once I got that far in the game; the contentious sentence above made more sense, but that's a a point against walkthrough, not for it.

If this all sounds disproportionately argumentative, it certainly is; my pet peeve is when people defend poor documentation; a la every other post on stackexchange and the like.
 

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This is just a blatant misrepresentation of a ambigious sentence from the start
There's nothing ambiguous about it though.

so much in that it calls your own command of the English language into question.
You've got that backwards... I didn't have a problem understanding it, and even explained it to you.

The issue is the lack of punctation or clauses, and the ambiguity of phrases like "can be".
Again, there's no ambiguity becaus the context is simple and clear.

What I think the author is TRYING to say is:
All of the tasks below require progressing through the main story to the point that Sarah returns home, as well as completion of "BSDM2" and "exhibitionist"
That is what the author said... Your inability to comprehend what was written is a reflection upon you, not what was written.

Furthermore, there's no contextual clues in the "Main Story" section, as there's no specific reference to Sarah returning home.
Oh my god... You think it's supposed to be a hand-holding step-by-step walkthrough!

There's no need for any contextual clues in the "Main Story" section, because that section gets you to the point of her leaving the household. There are then five references to her returning home after that section throughout the guide, and even the first one alone is enough to let anyone with an ounce of common sense know, she returns to the household.

but that's a a point against walkthrough, not for it.
I know I'm being facetious here, but you opened the door for me... Your apparent grasp of the English language looks far worse than mine.
Maybe you should reflect on that the next time you want to tell someone else that they don't understand their own language as well as you imply you do.

If this all sounds disproportionately argumentative, it certainly is; my pet peeve is when people defend poor documentation
Mine is people practically lying about something, then thinking they've got the balls to compound that by attacking the individual instead of what they've said...
 
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There's nothing ambiguous about it though.



You've got that backwards... I didn't have a problem understanding it, and even explained it to you.



Again, there's no ambiguity becaus the context is simple and clear.



That is what the author said... Your inability to comprehend what was written is a reflection upon you, not what was written.



Oh my god... You think it's supposed to be a hand-holding step-by-step walkthrough!

There's no need for any contextual clues in the "Main Story" section, because that section gets you to the point of her leaving the household. There are then five references to her returning home after that section throughout the guide, and even the first one alone is enough to let anyone with an ounce of common sense know, she returns to the household.



I know I'm being facetious here, but you opened the door for me... Your apparent grasp of the English language looks far worse than mine.
Maybe you should reflect on that the next time you want to tell someone else that they don't understand their own language as well as you imply you do.



Mine is people practically lying about something, then thinking they've got the balls to compound that by attacking the individual instead of what they've said...
Again, you would make a fine contributor on stackoverflow.
 

Snugglepuff

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Again, you would make a fine contributor on stackoverflow.
Again you resort to insulting me, instead of trying to counter the points I made.
Didn't know what "stackoverflow" was until you mentioned it a second time, but since you dislike it so much I'd say it's probably more up your alley... You certainly know it well enough to use a position there in a negative connotation and given your apparent ego problem, I'd venture that you want to be a contributor there.

Lastly, it's not "stackoverflow" it's Stack Overflow... The name is two seperate words and your adoption of part of its url when addressing it instead of writing the name properly really pokes another hole in your supposed grasp of written English. :LOL:
 
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To be honest, one of the games I didn't play at all after the version was upgraded. It's a representative case of losing interest due to too many bugs and strange breakdowns in the story.
Unless it's an official game, some bugs are acknowledged, but I don't know why the creators don't admit that the version upgrade that doesn't fix the bug is meaningless and makes the game more and more trash. Admittedly, it's a game with a lot of potential. But I have no intention of recommending or playing again.
 

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Why we have so much old bugs?

It is getting pretty ridiculous to write that the game get bugfixing and the game looks to the version before the same high bug rate.

1) Journal-Ellie Return to game</div> , you can go back it is in white and not in black so it isn`t correct - old bug

2) Ellie phoned your the second time
She hags up the phone.</ div> - </ div> should be not there (looks like near above)

3) Casino - play blackjack don`t work anymore - you can`t win or lose the money is all time the same

4 a) Gym - week subscription don`t work - you must pay all time 50$ and it works as a today 15€
4 b) Gym - today aso don`t work correct- you must pay all time 15€ when you went on a day 3xtimes to the gym you pay 45€

5) Lola - Hero What? Are you serious?</i> - </i> should be not there

6) Journal - Sabina - Error: cannot find a closing tag for macro <<if>>
6a) The Warehouse is in the Journal blacked out and I haven`t done it - Why is it not first blacked out when you have really done it?

7) Ignore this event don`t work - you play further so Sarah went out - no option to go on another place

8) Hero
Error: cannot find a closing tag for HTML <i> - macro bug
I still don't trust her, but I guess it's not my problem.. Now I guess I have to decide if I tell the FBI lady, what was her name again? Oh yes, Ms. Thompson. Anyway, should I give her a call or trust Sabina and stay loyal to her?

9) look in the bar - I have it 3xtime (evening) it stucks no text and no option to go back (only the back arrow) - old bug
Hi, thanks for the bug list. One thing though:
Several of the bugs you mention, like for example, the gym and blackjack have been fixed ages ago (just tested them to be sure, but they work fine), but they do require a new game as old save data will implement the bugs again due to the data the savefile stores (I did mention this). And there is nothing I can do about that. But they are fixed. As said, I just tested it with a clean game and it all works as it should.

I do have a question about your 7th point:
7) Ignore this event don`t work - you play further so Sarah went out - no option to go on another place

I can't seem to find that part anywhere, can you elaborate on this one.

The <div>, </if> and <i> bugs I will have fixed and I just fixed the bar look around bug where there is a chance that you get an empty screen. FYI this has no effect on the game storylines whatsoever, just annoying.

How do I start the new sarah scene with the bus?
Came back tried play again but still don’t know what to do the journal is unclear
and how to trigger exhibizionist 2?
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anyone got unlocked gallery?
Hi, there is no gallery (or very limited) available as for now.
 

Dole

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Hi, thanks for the bug list. One thing though:
Several of the bugs you mention, like for example, the gym and blackjack have been fixed ages ago (just tested them to be sure, but they work fine), but they do require a new game as old save data will implement the bugs again due to the data the savefile stores (I did mention this). And there is nothing I can do about that. But they are fixed. As said, I just tested it with a clean game and it all works as it should.

I do have a question about your 7th point:
7) Ignore this event don`t work - you play further so Sarah went out - no option to go on another place

I can't seem to find that part anywhere, can you elaborate on this one.

The <div>, </if> and <i> bugs I will have fixed and I just fixed the bar look around bug where there is a chance that you get an empty screen. FYI this has no effect on the game storylines whatsoever, just annoying.





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Hi, there is no gallery (or very limited) available as for now.
I played complete new and when you tell the bugs are fixed then I can say it is not true. So when you start new and see all these old bugs what have you done I can`t see nothing and to see all time the bugs in each version again and again makes no fun so I stoped to play.
 
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