Knight_of_the_lance

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Feb 23, 2020
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I think Olera is currently punishing Veil. And my analogy with a child is only that an analogy. I agree that whatever we say we won't know until the next update at the very earliest. I agree that they don't have a relationship together. They will though, I am pretty sure that that they will get to know each other. It is somehow Olera's goal for Elyn to impregnate Veil. For that to happen something must happen. Not necessarily a love relationship, but there must be something and I doubt that Veil will come out unscratched on top.
 

Lemix

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Then play the last update
Okay, i have to assume there is rape now in last update, so the answer why there is no tag is because there wasnt a rape when thread was created, so just reporting it to OP so they can add a tag would solve it.
 

AureliusBlaze

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Jan 13, 2024
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I'll start off with the good: There was a decent amount of content I personally enjoy (stuff at home).

Now for the bad from my POV:
Context: The tag of "rape" was added to the game as of chapter 3, unbeknownst to me, as it was not added to the game tags yet.
Sheesh, I was not expecting the unavoidable rape of our protagonist. Don't even get me started on how that was a scene that kept going on and probably hit some kind of world record for how much it dragged on, (and I mean the scene was actually really long, not just because I personally disliked it and as such "dragged on").
It was so odd how it was trying to make the rape seem less bad, while trying to keep the tone of "but obviously this is not okay". It was super distasteful, and honestly, although I soldiered on and finished the rest of the update... I was so put off by the whole thing that I am unlikely to play this again. Maybe by the next update I'd have washed it from my brain, and I'd be able to play again (assuming that's the limit of that tag).
And the weird Stockholm Syndrome that was written in for the protagonist regarding the rape, too! I swear I almost felt violated myself by proxy.

I am aware there was an option at the start to get to choose if you see scenes or not, but I don't think that works as a catch-all. Certainly not when it specifies everything still happens no matter what. I'd agree it would work if it changed scenes canonically.
Like mentioned, the rape tag was missing and none of the content in chapter 1-2 implied any such content would be part of the game. No foreshadowing or anything.

Anyway, just a little rant and just my personal opinion obviously. But do be warned if you don't enjoy that kind of content, it was a huge deal in the game and it kept being brought up over and over.
 

Marshall343

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Feb 12, 2018
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I loved this game, but the forced rape scene made me really uncomfortable, and I'm not sure if I can continue playing past it. There wasn't even a warning, it just happens with no way out
 

Johan_0000

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Apr 14, 2023
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I'll start off with the good: There was a decent amount of content I personally enjoy (stuff at home).

Now for the bad from my POV:
Context: The tag of "rape" was added to the game as of chapter 3, unbeknownst to me, as it was not added to the game tags yet.
Sheesh, I was not expecting the unavoidable rape of our protagonist. Don't even get me started on how that was a scene that kept going on and probably hit some kind of world record for how much it dragged on, (and I mean the scene was actually really long, not just because I personally disliked it and as such "dragged on").
It was so odd how it was trying to make the rape seem less bad, while trying to keep the tone of "but obviously this is not okay". It was super distasteful, and honestly, although I soldiered on and finished the rest of the update... I was so put off by the whole thing that I am unlikely to play this again. Maybe by the next update I'd have washed it from my brain, and I'd be able to play again (assuming that's the limit of that tag).
And the weird Stockholm Syndrome that was written in for the protagonist regarding the rape, too! I swear I almost felt violated myself by proxy.

I am aware there was an option at the start to get to choose if you see scenes or not, but I don't think that works as a catch-all. Certainly not when it specifies everything still happens no matter what. I'd agree it would work if it changed scenes canonically.
Like mentioned, the rape tag was missing and none of the content in chapter 1-2 implied any such content would be part of the game. No foreshadowing or anything.

Anyway, just a little rant and just my personal opinion obviously. But do be warned if you don't enjoy that kind of content, it was a huge deal in the game and it kept being brought up over and over.
Maaaan I feel you sooooo much, look :
If i think abt it, there's smt that I find kind of sad in this update. It's the "rape scene". I was kinda "ok" with it bc I thought that the MC and her would make up and become "lovers" in this same update. Yk heal each others wounds. I mean it wasn't the scene in itself that bugged, it's more the fact that we didn't get that and her redemption arc in one go. I was like, oh ok it begins savage and it ends sweet, sadly I didn't get the sweetness I needed to balance the sour part lol. That's what I found frustrating but Ig it's ok now that I've cooled off lol
Hope we'll get to see that in the next update.
I'll try to make it short.
I felt the same as you when watching the scene the 1st time, I was disgusted. Btw, you rly hit the nail on the head with your proxy comparaison, that's exactly how I felt. But I have to admit that, giving it back to her was a bit satisfying BC SHE LIKED IT.

However, now that some time has passed since I played it. If we delve into the context of the story, it's a medieval world. This kind of things happened way more often than they'd now (atleast I'd like to believe so). The girl who raped us was prbbly raped herself, I won't even talk abt how she was prbbly enslaved by humans as well (it's all a theory but from how much she hates humans Ig as much lol)...

I'll tell you why I think it could have been a "cool scene" if we look at it on a bigger scale. That scene kinda symbolizes the vicious cycle of hate/war...
You hurt me then I'll hurt you, you hate me then I'll hate you, you killed smn I love, then I'll do the same too etc etc...
It's such a pervert cycle rly hard to end, bc it's hard for both parties to forgive what's done even thought it prbbly began with no hate and just an order, or a jerk who passed by and began this whole mess (If you didn't get it I'm talking abt the whole thing generally).
In our case, she was raped by humans prbbly, so she raped us, then we "raped" her. She hated us then we hated her...
Smn need to put a stop bc it'll not end in a happy ending if it continues.

I think you get me, well that's exactly what happened during that scene and like I said in that comment. I think the major mistake the dev did is not including her redemption arc in the same update. Like c'mon if you hit us that hard with smt, you gotta balance things out lol.

I don't think I've seen this game offer multiple paths, but I'd personally make 2 paths. One where we don't forgive her to satisfy those who rly can't find in them the strength to do so. And, another one where we forgive, heal and end that cycle (I have to admit I'd personally like it if we still get to have the upper hand on her if we forgive her being a dom feels good lol, so yeah maybe make it 2 path in the forgiveness path dom/sub or even 3 with one of them being a switch path : switch/dom/sub).


I like that the author took a risk with this, like you need to sometimes make your characters go through things to make them grow. The only bad point is that he didn't make it to the END. That left a lot of us frustrated I think. I hope the dev will remember this if he ever plans to make a similar scene in term of controversy lol.


I hope I helped come to terms with it a bit.





THX


THX
 
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I think the game fantastic, and I don't have any complaints about the things that some others are objecting to. I don't mind that Elyn was taken advantage of with drugs, and her not wanting to just rape Veil and be done with it seemed reasonable, in that it showed that Elyn (at this point, anyway) has her own moral compass and doesn't want to force others, even after she was forced. And I don't think the new breasts look bad either--the original breasts are hot as fuck, but I can accept the new ones as somehow indicating an increase in innate debauchery. Maybe that could have been done in some other way. I don't mind. The one thing I do wish, though, is that Veil, Mog, and the older orc daughter had hotter faces. They can be barbaric and/or inhuman, but it would be more of a turn-on if their faces weren't so hideous. Anyway, great game!
imagine soft locking yourself in a hentai game: you're doing just that
 

FutAphrodite

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Jun 13, 2022
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FutAphrodite any reason for the silence? Hope you are doing good and you don't need to update if you don't want to.
I'm okay. I appreciate your concern. For anyone wondering, these couple of months have been busy for me and I couldn't focus on the game 100%. I'll need a bit more time before the next update is finished. Hopefully this month and the next, I'll be able to finish the bigger parts of the update.
On a side note, I want to tell everyone that the updates will come out in parts. e.g. Chapter 4-Part 1, Chapter 4-Part 2, Chapter 4-Part 3. After that, it will be Chapter 5-Part 1, and so on. This was to make updates faster, which would've worked if I wasn't so busy after March.
In any case, I'm working on some new features right now, which you'll see early on in Chapter 4, and I'm also adding more choices (more impactful this time).
 

Briiu--1

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Oct 22, 2022
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I'm okay. I appreciate your concern. For anyone wondering, these couple of months have been busy for me and I couldn't focus on the game 100%. I'll need a bit more time before the next update is finished. Hopefully this month and the next, I'll be able to finish the bigger parts of the update.
On a side note, I want to tell everyone that the updates will come out in parts. e.g. Chapter 4-Part 1, Chapter 4-Part 2, Chapter 4-Part 3. After that, it will be Chapter 5-Part 1, and so on. This was to make updates faster, which would've worked if I wasn't so busy after March.
In any case, I'm working on some new features right now, which you'll see early on in Chapter 4, and I'm also adding more choices (more impactful this time).
When can we expect the release of Chapter 4 part 1?
 
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GodsMiddleHand

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I'm okay. I appreciate your concern. For anyone wondering, these couple of months have been busy for me and I couldn't focus on the game 100%. I'll need a bit more time before the next update is finished. Hopefully this month and the next, I'll be able to finish the bigger parts of the update.
On a side note, I want to tell everyone that the updates will come out in parts. e.g. Chapter 4-Part 1, Chapter 4-Part 2, Chapter 4-Part 3. After that, it will be Chapter 5-Part 1, and so on. This was to make updates faster, which would've worked if I wasn't so busy after March.
In any case, I'm working on some new features right now, which you'll see early on in Chapter 4, and I'm also adding more choices (more impactful this time).
Love the game! Any news on when we might expect an update?
 

G0thMami

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Feb 27, 2019
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I liked the game until the non-con shit, first with the sister and then with Veil. I read that the author is considering modifying some of it? I wouldn't say get rid of it, some people probably like it, but maybe add an option to resist them, turn the tables if possible.
 
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