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RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone Floor 10] [Bo Wei/Koda]

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Zepheral

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Honestly? I think any amount of entitlement from people not actively paying for the game is totally insane, and inherently deserves mockery no matter what's happening in the development.

Like I'm not saying f95 should be a happy positive hugbox that never gives anything but praise, but like, it's possible to say negative things, even incredibly negative things, without coming across like you're such a victim cause the people you're stealing from are not making porn up to your incredibly high standards.
I do agree with the entitlement issue, but it doesn’t mean that we can’t critique on what he’s doing. He’s making a lot for little work. I see people who work their butts off and and don’t get paid nearly as much as him.

That being said, you don’t need an iq of at least 65 to realize that he’s milking folks.
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Narak8813

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I thought end of the month was the recent one, but I'm not on the discord anymore. Can somebody verify that lvl0 has been delayed again?
Yeah the "official" and most recent one is the end of the month but after the last release of claus 2,koda said that is safe to assume that lv0 will be released in Q1.
To date there is no info that is back on lv0
he was also asked but there was no answer at least in public chat.
 
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besaid

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None of this means anything, it's a porn game piracy site. But when I see someone throwing a tantrum like a five year old when the ice cream truck is late because they live in a fantasty world where strangers on the internet owe them anything at all, I'm gonna call it out.
A lot of people here have given them money but stopped because they were getting literally nothing but screen grabs and empty promises back. My frustration is that I want to pay them but its clear they arent doing anything for the money, so i cant.

By the way the language you use in "calling people out" makes you seem really immature. I dont know if anyone has told you that before.
 
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A lot of people here have given them money but stopped because they were getting literally nothing but screen grabs and empty promises back. My frustration is that I want to pay them but its clear they arent doing anything for the money, so i cant.

By the way the language you use in "calling people out" makes you seem really immature. I dont know if anyone has told you that before.
weird thing to say when you do literally the same thing one paragraph up.

is it just like the words 'calling out'? expressing your negative views on other people is totally fine as long as you don't call it that? If so, thanks for letting me know, wouldn't want to be seen as immature, glad you were around to nip that in the bud.
 
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Honestly? I think any amount of entitlement from people not actively paying for the game is totally insane, and inherently deserves mockery no matter what's happening in the development.

Like I'm not saying f95 should be a happy positive hugbox that never gives anything but praise, but like, it's possible to say negative things, even incredibly negative things, without coming across like you're such a victim cause the people you're stealing from are not making porn up to your incredibly high standards.
“You can only be negative towards people you pay, and if you disagree you’re the insane one”
 

besaid

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weird thing to say when you do literally the same thing one paragraph up.

is it just like the words 'calling out'? expressing your negative views on other people is totally fine as long as you don't call it that? If so, thanks for letting me know, wouldn't want to be seen as immature, glad you were around to nip that in the bud.
Its more that you are throwing a multi post tantrum about other people throwing tantrums, but happy I could help nonetheless.
 

Konstantinus

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No, you'd be lucky to get literally anything. Because you are owed nothing!

Like how can so many people not get this, it's such a basic concept. let me put this as directly as I can: The fact that you have jerked off to this guy's imaginary muscle women? doesn't mean you acquire the inherent right to continue to jerk off to his muscle women. He gets to make porn for you as slowly or quickly as he likes, because you aren't owed shit.

Too high standards is any standards, you aren't his fucking mother and you're not his boss. Strangers don't get to make demands of each other you rude motherfucker. You want the right to be mad? Pay him money! It's that simple.

And like I specifically said, you don't have to kiss his ass. It's so easy to not come across like an entitled asshat! I'll give a demonstration:

"yeah, it's pretty clear that his development rate is slowing down. That's concerning, I hope he doesn't abandon the project altogether."

It's just basic common sense dude. You aren't owed porn, don't pretend you are.
Yes you are right. Because this is Patreon and not Kickstarter or Preorder he does not owe you something.
But you are mistaking the common sense of the market. If you want to sell something you have to deliver something. If you get money without delivering it is a fraud. The whole situation reminds me of the .
 
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It's hilarious that the best defense that people who defend the insane delays can come up with are insults. Facts are facts. Take a look at this image and ask yourself... Have you been able to get past floor 3 of the tower of reasonable argument?


 
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Walk Cycle

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No, you'd be lucky to get literally anything. Because you are owed nothing!

Like how can so many people not get this, it's such a basic concept. let me put this as directly as I can: The fact that you have jerked off to this guy's imaginary muscle women? doesn't mean you acquire the inherent right to continue to jerk off to his muscle women. He gets to make porn for you as slowly or quickly as he likes, because you aren't owed shit.

Too high standards is any standards, you aren't his fucking mother and you're not his boss. Strangers don't get to make demands of each other you rude motherfucker. You want the right to be mad? Pay him money! It's that simple.

And like I specifically said, you don't have to kiss his ass. It's so easy to not come across like an entitled asshat! I'll give a demonstration:

"yeah, it's pretty clear that his development rate is slowing down. That's concerning, I hope he doesn't abandon the project altogether."

It's just basic common sense dude. You aren't owed porn, don't pretend you are.
You're right, we aren't owed anything.

We can however, meme Koda's complete inabilty to follow his own timelines. He might make porn as quickly and slowly as he likes as you've said. But judging from the countless times he moved release dates he also has no idea how fast he can make them. And that's the root of everyone's problems really, getting mad at Koda's false promises.

Gotta admit some of these replies feels like a temper tantrum. I vaguely remember someone commenting along the lines of "Koda this is your final warning, release updates now or I will pursue a strong action" or something like that. Utter meme material.
 
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Do you guys even know why they do side projects? Ask yourself, if they did a side project on its own with its own funding, would you fund it?

Obviously not. Nobody would pay for hallow mansion, or warrior guild, or whatever trash they throw out as an excuse to delay. They just want more money. Truth is they could have finished TOT 2 years ago, the only reason they didn't is because they didn't want the money to stop coming in.

The truth is, they are scared to release even one more floor, because every step they complete in TOT is a step closer to less money.
 

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No, you'd be lucky to get literally anything. Because you are owed nothing!

Like how can so many people not get this, it's such a basic concept. let me put this as directly as I can: The fact that you have jerked off to this guy's imaginary muscle women? doesn't mean you acquire the inherent right to continue to jerk off to his muscle women. He gets to make porn for you as slowly or quickly as he likes, because you aren't owed shit.

Too high standards is any standards, you aren't his fucking mother and you're not his boss. Strangers don't get to make demands of each other you rude motherfucker. You want the right to be mad? Pay him money! It's that simple.

And like I specifically said, you don't have to kiss his ass. It's so easy to not come across like an entitled asshat! I'll give a demonstration:

"yeah, it's pretty clear that his development rate is slowing down. That's concerning, I hope he doesn't abandon the project altogether."

It's just basic common sense dude. You aren't owed porn, don't pretend you are.
Koda is that you? Are you making fake profiles to defend yourself again?
On topic though, I actually agreed with you like 2 years ago, but first of all Koda and Bo got a SHITLOAD of people from f95 as patrons and second they recognized our existence from day one, while things were going great each of them thank all of us for giving ToT a shot, for the feedback etc but then whine about the same people when they are doing N O T H I N G.

Sorry bub but you cannot have it both ways, either you accept us and take the very, VERY fair stuff we have been saying or you fuck off, but you do not whine now that things are't going your way and your patrons are too afraid to speak up.

So go away fake Koda, we do not like you.
 

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No, you'd be lucky to get literally anything. Because you are owed nothing!

Like how can so many people not get this, it's such a basic concept. let me put this as directly as I can: The fact that you have jerked off to this guy's imaginary muscle women? doesn't mean you acquire the inherent right to continue to jerk off to his muscle women. He gets to make porn for you as slowly or quickly as he likes, because you aren't owed shit.

Too high standards is any standards, you aren't his fucking mother and you're not his boss. Strangers don't get to make demands of each other you rude motherfucker. You want the right to be mad? Pay him money! It's that simple.

And like I specifically said, you don't have to kiss his ass. It's so easy to not come across like an entitled asshat! I'll give a demonstration:

"yeah, it's pretty clear that his development rate is slowing down. That's concerning, I hope he doesn't abandon the project altogether."

It's just basic common sense dude. You aren't owed porn, don't pretend you are.
you can only be owed the porn, if you have paid for the porn
 
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“You can only be negative towards people you pay, and if you disagree you’re the insane one”
Why did you quote me if you didn't actually read what I said. Like I would call it a reading comprehension problem, but since I litterally said directly, in what you chose to quote for me, the complete opposite of what you accused me off.... like what do I even say.
 
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On the one hand, while we are not owed free content, we either were Patreons or we saw how the now ex Patreons were treated. If I were a former Patreon, I would feel owed something due to giving Boda money for x number of months/ *Gulps* years. As someone who's read these comments and learned why supporting them is a bad idea, I am greatful for what they do release but I will not fund them until they get their update schedule on track.
 
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Koda is that you? Are you making fake profiles to defend yourself again?
On topic though, I actually agreed with you like 2 years ago, but first of all Koda and Bo got a SHITLOAD of people from f95 as patrons and second they recognized our existence from day one, while things were going great each of them thank all of us for giving ToT a shot, for the feedback etc but then whine about the same people when they are doing N O T H I N G.

Sorry bub but you cannot have it both ways, either you accept us and take the very, VERY fair stuff we have been saying or you fuck off, but you do not whine now that things are't going your way and your patrons are too afraid to speak up.

So go away fake Koda, we do not like you.

the thing is I've been super explicit from the start, be as critical as you want, be as negative as you want, got nuts. fuck, say objectively hurtful things! Just don't pretend like your a victim of crimes against your inalienable right to porn.

I honestly do believe that the spark is gone for the devs, it's much more about the obligation than it used to be, and the sluggish development pace is going to continue. And then I think, "that's too bad, I hope they can figure it out" because them fucking up is not an insult to me! If they dropped off the face of the earth tomorrow and never updated again, Nobody has been wronged! Maybe the patrons, but the whiniest people on here are very clearly not patrons, and even then as long as they cancel the patreon and aren't actively stealing, that's the risk of backing people on patreon.
 
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