RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone SC3] [Bo Wei/Koda]

[thebeardedman]

I all for a bondage girl Like with the bed Yvonne used but more I don't think we had one of those She could be this royal girl with all kinds of wicked costumes
As for the hypnotist, maybe something like that character from Street Fighter 5?

Couldn't agree more man, a royal girl who thinks highly of herself? Damn that would be the dream

 

[Reapergod36]

Trying to see if there's anymore decent content since I stopped looking at this game. How do you kneel at Karen's throne?

 

[dudunin]

Will the next character be as powerful as Karen or more like Lady Cobra ? What do you think? I think she should be more like Lady Cobra because Karen seemed to be like 2nd in hierarchy or like the most powerful women.

 

[Darth Wredd]

I hope they head back to the "regular" fight style. I'd love to see a vanilla MMA/boxing themed character over getting my head stuck between two swords any day. What's next? actually getting decapitated and getting our heads wrapped in rotten pantyhose?

 

[Reapergod36]

Just interact with the throne (spacebar)

Odd as usually interacting is done with enter

I hope they head back to the "regular" fight style. I'd love to see a vanilla MMA/boxing themed character over getting my head stuck between two swords any day. What's next? actually getting decapitated and getting our heads wrapped in rotten pantyhose?

That's where a lot of the series lost me. From very grounded fights that were martial arts themed with very little supernatural elements besides an overpowering musk. To a completely fantasy experience with a protagonist that is just a loser for all intensive purposes. The focus on more extreme kinks as well was a turn-off. So much focus on watersports... and worse the art has only been getting worse since the original red first boss. It hasn't improved since the original Mfight and it's just disappointing. What has changed is the models are so oversexualized they're actually more boring in a way.

 

[TopBlade]

Well with a complete opposite opinion I think the game is great, and the art and progression has only been getting better. But of course opinions are opinions and we all view these things differently, some people don't like the heavy focus on extreme kinks and some people love them.

 

[Foot Fetish Fan]

Ah, i see you're a man of culture as well

Yes, Nikki is simply gorgeous. The only women who can beat her imo are amazons like the woman posing as my Avatar. She is Tall Tanja, a dutch Foot Goddess:

Height: 195 cm
Shoe Size: 47

She would perfectly fit in ToT as a villainess as well. Ethan would be hard pressed to ever stop worshipping her "skyscrapers" while she toys with his infatuation.

 

[Posadist]

That's where a lot of the series lost me. From very grounded fights that were martial arts themed with very little supernatural elements besides an overpowering musk. To a completely fantasy experience with a protagonist that is just a loser for all intensive purposes. The focus on more extreme kinks as well was a turn-off. So much focus on watersports... and worse the art has only been getting worse since the original red first boss. It hasn't improved since the original Mfight and it's just disappointing. What has changed is the models are so oversexualized they're actually more boring in a way.

I had some of those same gripes with this game that you do, except for the art, but for me the Xmas update seemed like a return to what made ToT so great in that first floor of the game. No unrealistically strong smells, a really good minigame, no watersports or extreme femdom of any kind. Miss Clauss does use magic, but she's supposed to be Santa, so it's okay in my book. All her CGs are great, and they don't use animations so I'm sure they weren't as time-consuming to make as Karen's or Cobra's, and even though she doesn't have nowhere near as much content as those two, the update didn't feel too short in the slightest, for me it was just the right amount. I hate to sound like a broken record, but there were even NO DELAYS! The only thing missing was a fight, but it was supposed to be a small seasonal update, so what we got was plenty.
If the Xmas update was any indication of what the devs are up to now that the floors are releasing faster, then I'm loving where they're taking us!

 

[dudunin]

@Reapergod36 Where did you find these series ? I like this one because the fetishes are unpopular and they are a few game with that (extreme) kinks. You think they are oversexualized but I think this is the the goal. The target is like reader of doujin which contain that kind of art ^^

It seems to me you are just the target of this game. Are you even a feet/pantyhose or watersport fetishist? Honestly for these fetishists this game is Heaven ^^

Nevertheless I agree with you on the fact the art did not really improve. I could complain about the eyes. Same mistake from 1 to 3. But with Karen (6th) I must confess he did improve, I don't know where do you point the cursor of what is improvement but he still definitely improved ! ^^

I think too about the gameplay's question. I'm quite hopeless about it, a game/story need to evolve at some point. They went there because they try to represent a Mistress who is much cruel (and beautiful) & powerful and that pure martial arts are limited.

I precise I did discover this game at the 5th floor so I did not live the evolution of this game.

Have a nice day everyone

 

[Endomorphian]

Extreme fetishes are good, they can go even further as far as I am concerned. The art is amazing, there are professional games with far lower quality than this game. Overall an amazing job by the creators.

 

[boweisama]

Been here since day 1; I could only like khulan's art&fight&etc, others were meh. But I m grateful for khulan so I am happy that this game is still going on, dont care how other bosses ll be. I enjoy playing it

 

[Greycrimson]

The focus on more extreme kinks as well was a turn-off. So much focus on watersports... and worse the art has only been getting worse since the original red first boss. It hasn't improved since the original Mfight and it's just disappointing. What has changed is the models are so oversexualized they're actually more boring in a way.

I feel the same. Never was a fan of over the top huge breasts/ass, just gives me the uncanny valley effect if anything. Though I'm only into feet and not much else so there's a big bias there.

 

[Posadist]

I don't see how you can argue that the art has gotten worse, guys. I'd argue that animations aren't necessary for EVERY CG like Karen pretty much had, but the art has absolutely improved, I don't know what you're on about.

I feel the same. Never was a fan of over the top huge breasts/ass, just gives me the uncanny valley effect if anything. Though I'm only into feet and not much else so there's a big bias there.

I'm the exact same too, but I guess I just got used to the girls' extreme proportions, they only take me out of it in some CGs where they're the focus. That's why Rose was such a breath of fresh air.

 

[bahamut2195]

Hand drawn models on a porn site are oversexualized?! Say it ain't so!!!!!!!

Having an issue with the artwork is fine, but expecting the style to change over time is probably unrealistic. It's one thing when discussing a new artist who is still learning how they want to draw and experimenting, but Bo Wei is pretty established and experienced. He has a style that isn't likely to evolve much at this point, whether you are a fan or not. Complaining that the models have unrealistic proportions though is somewhat silly though, isn't it? That has to describe something like 94% of the artwork on this, and almost every other, porn based site ever.

In a genre where the average drawn cup size is approximately FF and the average dick is 14 inches, oversexualized models are more the norm than the exception, no?

 

[Posadist]

Hand drawn models on a porn site are oversexualized?! Say it ain't so!!!!!!!

Having an issue with the artwork is fine, but expecting the style to change over time is probably unrealistic. It's one thing when discussing a new artist who is still learning how they want to draw and experimenting, but Bo Wei is pretty established and experienced. He has a style that isn't likely to evolve much at this point, whether you are a fan or not. Complaining that the models have unrealistic proportions though is somewhat silly though, isn't it? That has to describe something like 94% of the artwork on this, and almost every other, porn based site ever.

In a genre where the average drawn cup size is approximately FF and the average dick is 14 inches, oversexualized models are more the norm than the exception, no?

ToT isn't affiliated to any porn site, I don't get why you're bringing them up. You saying that women in porn games have oversexualized bodies so therefore people shouldn't complain about them in ToT, is both a bandwagon fallacy and you ignoring that ToT belongs in the genre of foot fetish/femdom porn games, and I really doubt oversexualized bodies are the norm in THAT genre. EVEN if it were, Bo Wei says he wants to break with the tropes in his genre, so why would you want him to just do what everyone else is doing?
Nobody's expecting Bo Wei to change his artstyle for two reasons: He wouldn't be changing his artstyle, since he's perfectly capable of drawing women with normal bodies, and he has done so in the past. We're just voicing our opinion, we never acted in an entitled manner or anything, and I, at least, am not naive enough to expect the dumb things I say in this forum to reach Bo Wei's ears and touch his heart enough for him to change how he prefers to draw his characters.
Going back to the genres topic, oversexualized bodies almost always serve a purpose in the vanilla porn game genre, that's why you see them so often there. But in the femdom genre, and especially in the foot fetish genre, there's a chance that oversexualized bodies will serve no purpose, which will result in comments like these

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which bring a valid point. Why have it if you won't use it? Just so you can stare at it? In that case Bo Wei should just quit making ToT altogether and make a gallery of porn pictures instead. I'm obviously not arguing for girls like Cobra to have tiny tits, or for Khulan's ass to be smaller, that would be stupid.
But that's just my opinion, take it or leave it.

 

[Greycrimson]

Regarding the art; I don't think anyone expects or demands any changes to it at our whim, as stated above. It borderline gets on the territory of complaining about other people's fetishes/preferences, which I absolutely hate. I'm content with a Lily here and a Rose there and still absolutely enjoy all the other villainesses.

I'm the exact same too, but I guess I just got used to the girls' extreme proportions, they only take me out of it in some CGs where they're the focus. That's why Rose was such a breath of fresh air.

I'm definitely in the camp of Rose being best girl, her expansion can't come soon enough. Has anyone made a signature for her yet?

 

[bahamut2195]

ToT isn't affiliated to any porn site, I don't get why you're bringing them up. You saying that women in porn games have oversexualized bodies so therefore people shouldn't complain about them in ToT, is both a bandwagon fallacy and you ignoring that ToT belongs in the genre of foot fetish/femdom porn games, and I really doubt oversexualized bodies are the norm in THAT genre.

ToT is affiliated indirectly with multiple porn sites, as this site and any other site offering pornographic games are, in fact, porn sites. We can argue the semantics if you like, but porn is porn, regardless if its a video, drawing, comic or game. It's designed to be fapped to therefore its porn. Exaggerated body types are for sure common in foot fetish/femdom games as well. You are ignoring the obvious if you believe otherwise, unless you actually believe that the average dominatrix looks anything like what you see in femdom games. Porn in general is an exaggeration, and certainly a hyper-sexualized version of the real world. Let's not distort reality to fit an agenda.

Why have it if you won't use it?

He does use it, frequently. Every boss so far has used more than just foot based attacks. If you are arguing for more variety, then that's fair enough most people wouldn't oppose that ideal. Honestly I can't quite discern what your argument here is, or why you are quoting my post in order to argue it.

 

[Posadist]

ToT is affiliated indirectly with multiple porn sites, as this site and any other site offering pornographic games are, in fact, porn sites. We can argue the semantics if you like, but porn is porn, regardless if its a video, drawing, comic or game. It's designed to be fapped to therefore its porn. Exaggerated body types are for sure common in foot fetish/femdom games as well. You are ignoring the obvious if you believe otherwise, unless you actually believe that the average dominatrix looks anything like what you see in femdom games. Porn in general is an exaggeration, and certainly a hyper-sexualized version of the real world. Let's not distort reality to fit an agenda.


He does use it, frequently. Every boss so far has used more than just foot based attacks. If you are arguing for more variety, then that's fair enough most people wouldn't oppose that ideal. Honestly I can't quite discern what your argument here is, or why you are quoting my post in order to argue it.

I like how I'm the one ignoring the obvious or the one distorting reality to fit an agenda, when you're clearly the one omitting parts of my argument and strawmanning my position, and you're still using your bandwagon fallacy.
But, hey, I did say you could take my opinion or leave it, so you can ignore it or misrepresent it if you don't like it, that's your business.

 

[bahamut2195]

I like how I'm the one ignoring the obvious or the one distorting reality to fit an agenda, when you're clearly the one omitting parts of my argument and strawmanning my position, and you're still using your bandwagon fallacy.
But, hey, I did say you could take my opinion or leave it, so you can ignore it or misrepresent it if you don't like it, that's your business.

You aren't making an argument though, you are simply attacking my own whilst offering no counter argument. You haven't explained your position, you simply labeled mine as a "bandwagon fallacy" and "strawmanning" and whining that I'm misrepresenting your "argument". Please, explain your position and I will happily debate with you. You quoted me, after all.

 

[Posadist]

You aren't making an argument though, you are simply attacking my own whilst offering no counter argument. You haven't explained your position, you simply labeled mine as a "bandwagon fallacy" and "strawmanning" and whining that I'm misrepresenting your "argument". Please, explain your position and I will happily debate with you. You quoted me, after all.

I did make an argument, you just ignored it. Why would I try to debate anybody who does that? If you're actually interested in what I had to say just try to reread what I posted instead of asking me to repeat myself. If you're unwilling then just let it end.