RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone SC3] [Bo Wei/Koda]

[GearlessJoe]

Not...going to touch the top bit so I'll only quote the bottom dealing with the Swan crow story. Want to point out I feel there are several things you are missing. "Crow" is not crow's name, that the name the monks refer to her as so because of her armor. So to say they should make the connection, "She calls herself doctor Swan, we decided to call our enemy Crow? Bird of a Femdom they are in on it!" Seems a little unfair, as they could have named her "Black armor lady."

Bro you're wrong, and not just because you're forgetting that the outfits are very similar as well. Go look at Crow's armor, it's stylized to look like a black bird. So no, Crow isn't what 6.5F bros call her, it's what she calls herself.

As for not noticing body type see above, "Crow" is covered head to toe in armor so they can't tell from that.

Wrong.
Also the body-type thing was me entertaining a theory that I don't subscribe to, it's not central to what I was saying really.

As for calling them dumb for all trusting swan are they? I only encountered one guy who already drank the cool aid with her, with the red hair guy at the bottom not trusting her in the least, and Ethan swapping back and forth.

You don't understand, they shouldn't be distrusting Swan, they should be pretty much certain that she works for the baddies if they had more than one braincell, that's how obvious it is. Besides red-haired guy and Ethan's reason for distrusting her has nothing to do with her name and outfit, which are the obvious giveaways.

I'm...not really sure why you are so against the Swan and Crow story. I personally think the dynamic of double wardens of differing personalities is a unique twist on things. To push the bird metaphor farther, it seems the crow scared the boys into a cage and the swan is there to make it a 'gilded cage' they choose to reside in.

I don't have anything against that dynamic, I just think it's rich we hear stuff about Koda wanting the story to stay consistent and flow well together and then get this plot. I already proposed a way of fixing 6.5F's plot, and I just came up with an even EASIER fix than the last one I thought of.

Have Ethan/6.5F boys acknowledge that it's a pretty huge coincidence that Swan and Crow have very similar nicknames and outfits, but then make them think something along the lines of "Nah, there's no way they'd be stupid enough to be working together in secret with aliases and themes that are so obviously connected, it's probably just a coincidence". Now the boys aren't completely braindead and the stupidity being highlighted is Swan's and Crow's, but at least the story makes sense this way. Ta-dah! Easy fix that doesn't require them to rework anything, just add a single line of dialogue, unlike what Koda's doing to 7F presumably...
Sylph Phoenix think you can get Koda to implement it?

 

[Waxer]

Bro you're wrong, and not just because you're forgetting that the outfits are very similar as well. Go look at Crow's armor, it's stylized to look like a black bird. So no, Crow isn't what 6.5F bros call her, it's what she calls herself.

Wrong.
Also the body-type thing was me entertaining a theory that I don't subscribe to, it's not central to what I was saying really.

You don't understand, they shouldn't be distrusting Swan, they should be pretty much certain that she works for the baddies if they had more than one braincell, that's how obvious it is. Besides red-haired guy and Ethan's reason for distrusting her has nothing to do with her name and outfit, which are the obvious giveaways.

I don't have anything against that dynamic, I just think it's rich we hear stuff about Koda wanting the story to stay consistent and flow well together and then get this plot. I already proposed a way of fixing 6.5F's plot, and I just came up with an even EASIER fix than the last one I thought of.

Have Ethan/6.5F boys acknowledge that it's a pretty huge coincidence that Swan and Crow have very similar nicknames and outfits, but then make them think something along the lines of "Nah, there's no way they'd be stupid enough to be working together in secret with aliases and themes that are so obviously connected, it's probably just a coincidence". Now the boys aren't completely braindead and the stupidity being highlighted is Swan's and Crow's, but at least the story makes sense this way. Ta-dah! Easy fix that doesn't require them to rework anything, just add a single line of dialogue, unlike what Koda's doing to 7F presumably...
Sylph Phoenix think you can get Koda to implement it?

Right, they called her crow based on her armor. Where Swan's ACTUAL name seems to be swan, and not based of her mask. I did double check the dialogue and it both William and Gavin say that she is called crow because of her armor, and I assumed that was the nickname they gave to her because of it, however I guess it is possible she said it herself. Either variation is possible.

And again, one monk trust swan entirely one monk does not, the player can more or less choose what to believe. Ethan and Gavin break into her office and search for clues, there isn't much more they can do. They can't kill her or lock her up as again the other monks need her.

....That line transoms the plot from "Brain dead stupid" to fixed for you? Sure whatever makes you happy.

 

[GearlessJoe]

Where Swan's ACTUAL name seems to be swan, and not based of her mask.

Wrong. Swan's mask is white and has a beak (very plague doctor-like), her hat has a big white feather on it.
And do you seriously believe that in a game about Female Domination there's gonna be a female villainess named after a nickname given to her by some male prisoners?

And again, one monk trust swan entirely one monk does not, the player can more or less choose what to believe. Ethan and Gavin break into her office and search for clues, there isn't much more they can do. They can't kill her or lock her up as again the other monks need her.

I already told you, it doesn't mean anything if they don't distrust her for the right and very obvious reasons.

....That line transoms the plot from "Brain dead stupid" to fixed for you? Sure whatever makes you happy.

Like I said, the story is still dumb this way but it's not non-sensical anymore. If you don't see how it's fixed then you don't understand what's wrong to begin with.

 

[Waxer]

Wrong. Swan's mask is white and has a beak (very plague doctor-like), her hat has a big white feather on it.
And do you seriously believe that in a game about Female Domination there's gonna be a female villainess named after a nickname given to her by some male prisoners?

I already told you, it doesn't mean anything if they don't distrust her for the right and very obvious reasons.

Like I said, the story is still dumb this way but it's not non-sensical anymore. If you don't see how it's fixed then you don't understand what's wrong to begin with.

Sorry I think this is just another time where we are going to have to agree to disagree here.

 

[kbutler]

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people would like the 'game' aspect to take a backseat, and for the 'porn' aspect to be focused on the most. Putting 'game' on the same level as 'porn' is how we get absurd config settings like "Auto QTE Difficulty" and "Lite Progress Info" settings, and other completely unnecessary QoL stuff like toggleable Mouse Support...

This is a ridiculous assumption to make.

 

[GearlessJoe]

This is a ridiculous assumption to make.

I'm about to sound like a douche but you probably feel that way because you're new here in F95.

 

[Aligonsas]

1.14.5.1 soon?

 

[olorex11]

1.14.5.1 soon?

It depends on your definition of "soon"

 

[Sylph Phoenix]

I had my stance toward porn games needing more game in them for years before meeting Koda, I used to rant to my gf about it. She's the opposite, she had me send her a MGQP save with all the monsters recruited. Clearly it's impossible to find a perfect woman, smh. There's a lot more in specific tastes that Koda and I share beyond that, we're just similar people with that stuff, I'm really not biased.

I'm still pretty sure Swan and the Crow are the same person, like in this pic that looks exactly like a crow's beak to me, with a swan feather to masquerade as anything else. I haven't asked Koda since I enjoy the mystery. Betting pool on whether Crow = Swan, anybody!?



I was originally typing out an argument to the rest but I don't like fighting and it's 36C so can we not lmao. I will ask Koda about the specific ways in which 7F is disjoint though because I'm curious

 

[dudunin]

What?

Somehow didn't you complain about the fact that they didn't release anything?Some Spanish guy did have an argument with you, quite violent I thought about how you shouldnt have complained.

There was 2 arguments with 2 italians, I thought you were 1 of them maybe my memory is not as good as I thought.

Waxer speaking of chatting on their discord, you should have seen my pseudo maybe a lot... Maybe too much sorry

Have a nice day guys

 

[Starlightok]

I've been gone awhile anything new apart from the swan and crow update?

 

[Incognito Guy]

Somehow didn't you complain about the fact that they didn't release anything?Some Spanish guy did have an argument with you, quite violent I thought about how you shouldnt have complained.

There was 2 arguments with 2 italians, I thought you were 1 of them maybe my memory is not as good as I thought.

Waxer speaking of chatting on their discord, you should have seen my pseudo maybe a lot... Maybe too much sorry

Have a nice day guys

I haven't been on discord for a while now.

 

[lonewolf1993]

are there any guides for the new update? so far advancing in the story has been very straight forward but the new girl is very different, don't know if she is really trying to help or an actual villain, i've won and lost to her countless times, i've been drinking the unknown potion to have dreams but i'm not sure whethe i'm supposed to keep playing the arrow game or that was the extent of the story, can we advance further than that? like go through the door that gavin is standing by? i've never used any guides before since it's a really fun game to experience, and i'm pretty sure i've missed on plenty of side stuff from the other viliains since i'm pretty tryhard and always go for the win and trying to save people instead of submitting to them and stuff so i think it's about time i look at some guides for the crow as well as the other characters.

 

[Incognito Guy]

Sylph Phoenix I have a question for you mate: are the Cobra update pictures currently in the game placeholders or final? Because they scream low effort and don't seem up to the ToT standard.

 

[LeonOne994]

I had my stance toward porn games needing more game in them for years before meeting Koda, I used to rant to my gf about it. She's the opposite, she had me send her a MGQP save with all the monsters recruited. Clearly it's impossible to find a perfect woman, smh. There's a lot more in specific tastes that Koda and I share beyond that, we're just similar people with that stuff, I'm really not biased.

I'm still pretty sure Swan and the Crow are the same person, like in this pic that looks exactly like a crow's beak to me, with a swan feather to masquerade as anything else. I haven't asked Koda since I enjoy the mystery. Betting pool on whether Crow = Swan, anybody!?

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I was originally typing out an argument to the rest but I don't like fighting and it's 36C so can we not lmao. I will ask Koda about the specific ways in which 7F is disjoint though because I'm curious

100% sure they are the same person

 

[Impatient666]

I'm still pretty sure Swan and the Crow are the same person, like in this pic that looks exactly like a crow's beak to me, with a swan feather to masquerade as anything else. I haven't asked Koda since I enjoy the mystery. Betting pool on whether Crow = Swan, anybody!?

I think so too, but I would really like it if they were sisters.

 

[Scotsman1989]

Just managed to resist Yvonne's enslavement and got the resolve skill, but am a little dissapointed at the fact that you don't get the oppertunity to serve and worship her as a man on probation with permission to continue his quest of climbing and fighting in the tower, which will end with her taking the MC with her when she leaves the tower as her loyal slave. Hoping for that kind of content somewhere down the line.

 

[Time to go mobile]

Hei guys,
Does any of you know the name of the OST (maybe just ST) playing during Lady Cobra's fights? Because it's pretty catchy

 

[sdafds]

Hei guys,
Does any of you know the name of the OST (maybe just ST) playing during Lady Cobra's fights? Because it's pretty catchy

Go to the game folder, select the folder called "Audio" and then choose the "BGM". you can find all the soundtracks of the fights there

 

[Sylph Phoenix]

Sylph Phoenix I have a question for you mate: are the Cobra update pictures currently in the game placeholders or final? Because they scream low effort and don't seem up to the ToT standard.

Final unless Bo decides to remake some. They're mostly made by Koda because he wanted to have some kind of art but he clearly isn't an artist.