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I liked this math joke between Lester + and Dan -; they could use it between themselves (Sarah and Lester). And Dan could hear Sarah and Lester constantly denigrating him. The Sentinel employee could already say Dan is D+ (in a work situation, saying he's the best). Now I expect a heated fight between Dan and Sarah (now that everything is over), with Dan fighting over the use of his daughters' beds and bedrooms for sex, questioning how Lester knew about the safe word (since they switched the phrase and how Lester knew pineapple was the new safe word, which was never used). Sarah has indeed forgotten or given up her daughters several times for the pleasure of sex. (Some women actually do this). Sarah will show her bad side. As for Dan being blamed for the hacking, it's unlikely he doesn't have a degree in the field, nor does he have the equipment (any simple investigation can clear him of blame).
Dan, with the help of the Sentinel girl, has to rob Lester and leave him poor. Lester has to make Sarah wear his ring and leave Dan's aside. Sarah also now has Lester paying for everything (you could say that her husband is now in control of the finances and has nothing to fear, and he gave her a new engagement ring). How long has it been since Dan had sex with his wife?
- I hope that in the next chapter, Dan tries something with Sarah and she says no, denying her husband that she belongs to Lester.
- I expect a fight between them and questions about the pineapple and using the children's bed.
- More dialogue and drama development, whether it's ending the hospital part or Dan on the lookout, searching for the former tenant, or talking to her fiancé, and them joining forces for revenge.
 

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OH absolutely, when you have kids you have a responsibility to protect them, a duty you signed up for when you decided to raise children.

When it comes to two spouses though, it's different. Each of them should have enough care and respect for their spouse and themselves to conduct themselves in a way that demonstrates that respect, however (and I'm making a general observation, not saying you have or share this opinion) the days of a woman, keeping her mouth shut and doing what the husband tells her to, or "seeking his permission" are long buried.

It's sad but marriages don't last like they use to, people fall out of love, or are exposed to something better (or better in their mind) and the temptation to experience something better is there. It's what we have here in TA. Sarah was exposed to better sex, and she was seduced by a confluence of events (some within her control and some external) that allowed her to indulge. Does that make it right, not my place to say, but what I do know is that Dan has no right to dictate what she can and can't do.

He initiated this path they are on and she humored him. He had every right to speak up to voice his concerns but what has he really done: he indulged in his own fantasies, he gave in to his own lust, instead of speaking to her like an adult he threw a temper tantrum when he realized it wasn't just his fantasy anymore, and out of 34 chapters he's only once asked her to stop. But even that was a token request, because after he found out she hadn't stopped, he fell right back into the reluctant cuck mentality.

I have no sympathy for Dan, because he has none for himself. He's not the paragon of upstanding husband material, that a particular member on here likes to claim. At best I feel apathy for him. But that's okay because I know it's purposeful, because that's how DS has written the character. I don't think this story would have worked beyond Sarah mistakenly having sex with Lester in chapter 7. If Dan was a typical male, he would have been furious that Jessie instigated the events and he'd remove Sarah from the source of temptation, pack his bags and find a better path for him and his family. By having Dan weak and basically a doormat, it allows DS to continue writing the story that he wants to tell.

I can't understand that, Verisimilinude!

You keep repeating that Dan initiated all this – I agree with that. But that's no longer up for debate!
What Sarah did with it is utterly despicable and pure deception!
Because that's what we're talking about...
I still don't understand how you can think that Dan would remain silent about everything and not speak up to bring about a change and/or put a complete stop to the whole thing.
That's not true!
On the contrary, I can show you at least six or seven passages off the top of my head where he tried to put Sarah and especially Lester in their place.
But each time, Sarah prevented him from doing so, either with guests or with physical actions.
One example is in Chapter 33, when Lester called to make his manipulative, blackmailing proposal. Dan reacted negatively and angry, but before he could express this, Sarah silenced him (she grabbed him by the shoulder and made it clear to him with guests present that he should hold back). During the phone call, Dan's negative reaction was repeated several times, and each time he was silenced by Sarah.
There are plenty of such reactions and actions in the previous chapters.
This shows us that Dan disagrees with many things and only puts up with them out of love and respect for his wife and children (Family).

Furthermore, marriage is not a compromise, but an essential part of human existence and population. ‘Wild marriages’ are only observed in the animal world and only occur when the female animal is instinctively ‘in heat’ and in ‘mating season’.
Marriage is the water of life, which does not arise from a compromise between oxygen and hydrogen, but from natural law. It also has its ups and downs, sometimes freezing into ice and sometimes turning into gas, but basically it is liquid, flows into each other and forms the elixir of life, like marriage, which is considered the foundation and guarantor of human existence.

For what you favour and describe, there is no need to enter into the ‘marriage covenant’. In your view, a woman has the right to satisfy her sexual excesses outside of marriage at any time with a larger penis than her husband has.
Therefore, she is not bound by marital fidelity because, in your opinion, she becomes a slave to her husband!
In your world, a wife has only attained complete freedom when she can live out her carnal sexual satisfaction's anytime, anywhere and with different men besides her husband!

According to this, we don't need any laws, any constitution, any rules; we should just live in anarchy!

Great views, respect!

-- PC
 

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Everybody saying they hated this chapter but after a long long time I have seen such discussion happen here.

A long time. For good or bad this ch was a memorable one


A real change of palette and about Dan in this chapter. He is in the mindbroken phase of his cuck cycle
Don't get me wrong im still looking for other stories just no one is posting them anywhere, and usually Kemono takes 1-3 days for the stories I look for, but no update yet. Last time I subscribed just to read a story the very next day it was on Kemono so I'm waiting it out.
This story isn't bad, it's just dragging on and on in comparison to the writers other works.
 

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Everybody saying they hated this chapter but after a long long time I have seen such discussion happen here.

A long time. For good or bad this ch was a memorable one


A real change of palette and about Dan in this chapter. He is in the mindbroken phase of his cuck cycle
Yeah mindbroken and nothing to lose apart his children, i hope for a reawakening of Brutal Dan who completely crush Lester before, when you have nothing more to lose you can do anything
 
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I liked this math joke between Lester + and Dan -; they could use it between themselves (Sarah and Lester). And Dan could hear Sarah and Lester constantly denigrating him. The Sentinel employee could already say Dan is D+ (in a work situation, saying he's the best). Now I expect a heated fight between Dan and Sarah (now that everything is over), with Dan fighting over the use of his daughters' beds and bedrooms for sex, questioning how Lester knew about the safe word (since they switched the phrase and how Lester knew pineapple was the new safe word, which was never used). Sarah has indeed forgotten or given up her daughters several times for the pleasure of sex. (Some women actually do this). Sarah will show her bad side. As for Dan being blamed for the hacking, it's unlikely he doesn't have a degree in the field, nor does he have the equipment (any simple investigation can clear him of blame).
Dan, with the help of the Sentinel girl, has to rob Lester and leave him poor. Lester has to make Sarah wear his ring and leave Dan's aside. Sarah also now has Lester paying for everything (you could say that her husband is now in control of the finances and has nothing to fear, and he gave her a new engagement ring). How long has it been since Dan had sex with his wife?
- I hope that in the next chapter, Dan tries something with Sarah and she says no, denying her husband that she belongs to Lester.
- I expect a fight between them and questions about the pineapple and using the children's bed.
- More dialogue and drama development, whether it's ending the hospital part or Dan on the lookout, searching for the former tenant, or talking to her fiancé, and them joining forces for revenge.
First, thank you, always looking for validation among math jokes (they multiply, you know :ROFLMAO:).
Second, I am going to go back and look, but I swear Dan was saying pineapple when he pulled Lester off of Sarah and threw him out.
Third: Like I stated earlier, I totally believe it is time for a knock down, drag out fight in which Sarah leaves wearing Lester's ring and not Dan's. She makes this obvious to Dan and tells him it is his turn to be the LOCAL parent (a dig at him always being somewhere else due to his incompetence that cost him his local job -- she did this one other time when they were fighting). Then she tells him she is going to spend alone time with Lester and she doesn't know when she will be back, but she is looking to actually be fucked and by a man and that obviously is not going to happen as long as Dan is here (her first denigrating thing she has said away from Lester about Dan's sexual state of being and his little worm size). She shows up at Lester's hotel room and they spend a week together, with her completely in-love with Lester and feeling a bit of disappointment and disgust with Dan.
Fourth, I absolutely love the idea of Sarah denying Dan, on her own, especially if she does nothing at all, right then. Lies on the couch and texts someone, laughing throughout. (He doesn't realize that it is Lester she is texting and they are laughing about him -- although he begins to think a good deal of his wife's laughter with other people she talks to is about him, as paranoia rises thanks to Lester.)
Fifth, they had sex soon after he arrived back home, this time; a couple of paragraphs after Dan kicks Lester out on his ass, I believe. Not very descriptive, I believe on purpose as Don wants us to think about Lester and Sarah, not Dan and Sarah.
 

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Good Evening PC, hope you're doing well.
What Sarah did with it is utterly despicable and pure deception!
That's one opinion to have, but not necessarily shared by all.


I still don't understand how you can think that Dan would remain silent about everything and not speak up to bring about a change and/or put a complete stop to the whole thing.
That's not true!
On the contrary, I can show you at least six or seven passages off the top of my head where he tried to put Sarah and especially Lester in their place.
Please do share written examples where Dan has had an adult conversation with Sarah about how he doesn't like what's happening and he wants it to STOP (note my emphasis on STOP). I'm open to being incorrect and that I may have missed a detail here or there, it is a long series after all. Look forward to reading your examples.

One example is in Chapter 33, when Lester called to make his manipulative, blackmailing proposal. Dan reacted negatively and angry, but before he could express this, Sarah silenced him (she grabbed him by the shoulder and made it clear to him with guests present that he should hold back). During the phone call, Dan's negative reaction was repeated several times, and each time he was silenced by Sarah.
Good example but not completely accurate. There were no guests, but I agree she answered the phone anyways and that was disrespectful:

“Who is it?” Dan asked.
Sarah paused before answering, “Lester. He wants to FaceTime with me.”
“Tell him to go away,” Dan grumbled and went back to looking at the papers in front of him.


However did he say "Sarah I don't like this, please don't answer it" or "Sarah before we have any more interaction with Lester I want us to have an honest discussion." No he held up his hands, said WTF in his head (hoping she would know what that meant) basically showing his frustration and then followed it up with:

“Lester,” Dan said, holding down his anger, “Sarah and I are busy. I don’t have the patience to play one of your games right now, okay? Can you just get on with what you want to say so we can go back to it?”

and later with this:
Dan looked back at Lester’s ugly, fat, smug face taking up the entire phone screen, “What kind of agreement?”

If he had followed up the first part of that section and hung up the call, I would agree with you, he was a man doing what he had to do to protect his marriage and his family. But sadly he didn't, he engaged, knowing full well that Lester is a manipulator. That any kind of agreement would be bad. That's on Dan. Sarah's fault is that she no longer has enough respect for her husband to listen to his advice, or to hear/see what she's doing is not something Dan can control on his own, that he's allowed himself to become a victim of his vices.

It also pokes holes in your theory that, he's swallowing his anger (i.e., putting up with her behavior) out of love and respect. He's not, he leans into it because it feeds his lust and Dan tells you that very thing:

Dan hated the way Lester was talking to him, but the mention of him engaging in ‘carnal pleasures’ with Sarah had him half hard under the table.

Furthermore, marriage is not a compromise
This would require a whole post by itself. All I can say is that "IF" (I say IF bc I don't know you and I don't know if you truly believe what you've said) you believe that compromise isn't an essential part of marriage and by proxy the one you love the most isn't worth sacrificing something for them; then that makes me sad.

For what you favour and describe, there is no need to enter into the ‘marriage covenant’. In your view, a woman has the right to satisfy her sexual excesses outside of marriage at any time with a larger penis than her husband has.
Therefore, she is not bound by marital fidelity because, in your opinion, she becomes a slave to her husband!
In your world, a wife has only attained complete freedom when she can live out her carnal sexual satisfaction's anytime, anywhere and with different men besides her husband!
Not so fast my internet friend. You don't have the right to say I said something I didn't. Those are your words not mine.

I said in the world I live in... spouses are equals and that they do not need their spouses "permission" to have agency over their own body and decisions, that they are not slaves nor property to be owned. Furthermore you missed the bigger point I was making, I made the distinction that it applies to all; both husband and wife should have agency, not one or the other.

If you want to know what my viewpoint is on marriage or other IRL topics, how about next time you just ask. I'm an open book and would be happy to share, no need to make up something and falsely attribute it to me.

I always appreciate healthy debate. Hope you have a good day/evening PC.
 
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Second, I am going to go back and look, but I swear Dan was saying pineapple when he pulled Lester off of Sarah and threw him out.
You were right he did say it in chapter 20

The sight shook him to his core, and he felt his cock twitch, but he held onto the rage in his chest. Let it spread.

“Pineapple,” He said loudly, causing Sarah to whip her head around. Her eyes opened like saucers, finally registering his presence in the room.
 

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Told two women a short version of TA, I wanted to see the view from the woman's side of how women think. Briefly theses in which the opinions of women coincided.
1. Definitely Lester. Financial stability, safety and only in third place is sex, provided that Sarah has a head on her shoulders.
2. Lester's physical unattractiveness doesn't matter (it surprised me)
3. Female intuition and cunning influence on Leicester, but without manipulation, because manipulation will not work in the long run.
4. Spending some time with Lester alone is ideally a month to start building a relationship and figure out if it will work.
5. Children are not a problem if Sarah is smart, she will find a way to leave the children with her. If a loser, that's her fate.
6. Stop thinking about what is between your feet and start making radical decisions.
7. Keep Dan at bay as a backup, but stop being bullied.
I was surprised by the cold calculation and mercantilism of their thoughts, but they explained to me that a woman should create the environment and the foundation of future family life. Staying with Dan is a bad option, as with a loser life will be unsuccessful in poverty. A man who cannot ensure financial stability for such a long time will not be able to do it throughout his life.
But all this is provided that Sarah is a smart woman and not a loser like Dan, if she is a stupid empty woman, then that's her way.
PS. Pregnancy does not always play a role, you can have an abortion (in real life, I think there will be many reasons not to do it for the book)
 

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I always appreciate healthy debate.
You interested me in your vision of compromise and openness to discussions.
How do you think a compromise should work when for one of the partners it violates the moral principles and norms of behavior in society (for example, committing an immoral act or wanting to have sex with another partner) it is a divorce or it is better to do it secretly so as not to cause pain to a loved one.
I will compromise with my wife in choosing the color of the paint for the room or breast augmentation, but it is categorically unacceptable for me to go on a date..... with another man, which in this case I do not want my marriage to break up, but I also do not agree to share with another. To what depth do you see the compromise, refusal is not acceptable and you need to look for a way out, that is, allow a date but with certain conditions even if it leads to a divorce
 
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Told two women a short version of TA, I wanted to see the view from the woman's side of how women think. Briefly theses in which the opinions of women coincided.
1. Definitely Lester. Financial stability, safety and only in third place is sex, provided that Sarah has a head on her shoulders.
2. Lester's physical unattractiveness doesn't matter (it surprised me)
3. Female intuition and cunning influence on Leicester, but without manipulation, because manipulation will not work in the long run.
4. Spending some time with Lester alone is ideally a month to start building a relationship and figure out if it will work.
5. Children are not a problem if Sarah is smart, she will find a way to leave the children with her. If a loser, that's her fate.
6. Stop thinking about what is between your feet and start making radical decisions.
7. Keep Dan at bay as a backup, but stop being bullied.
I was surprised by the cold calculation and mercantilism of their thoughts, but they explained to me that a woman should create the environment and the foundation of future family life. Staying with Dan is a bad option, as with a loser life will be unsuccessful in poverty. A man who cannot ensure financial stability for such a long time will not be able to do it throughout his life.
But all this is provided that Sarah is a smart woman and not a loser like Dan, if she is a stupid empty woman, then that's her way.
PS. Pregnancy does not always play a role, you can have an abortion (in real life, I think there will be many reasons not to do it for the book)
That is some interesting research you've done and I have to admit a few of those things surprised me.
 
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Told two women a short version of TA, I wanted to see the view from the woman's side of how women think. Briefly theses in which the opinions of women coincided.
1. Definitely Lester. Financial stability, safety and only in third place is sex, provided that Sarah has a head on her shoulders.
2. Lester's physical unattractiveness doesn't matter (it surprised me)
3. Female intuition and cunning influence on Leicester, but without manipulation, because manipulation will not work in the long run.
4. Spending some time with Lester alone is ideally a month to start building a relationship and figure out if it will work.
5. Children are not a problem if Sarah is smart, she will find a way to leave the children with her. If a loser, that's her fate.
6. Stop thinking about what is between your feet and start making radical decisions.
7. Keep Dan at bay as a backup, but stop being bullied.
I was surprised by the cold calculation and mercantilism of their thoughts, but they explained to me that a woman should create the environment and the foundation of future family life. Staying with Dan is a bad option, as with a loser life will be unsuccessful in poverty. A man who cannot ensure financial stability for such a long time will not be able to do it throughout his life.
But all this is provided that Sarah is a smart woman and not a loser like Dan, if she is a stupid empty woman, then that's her way.
PS. Pregnancy does not always play a role, you can have an abortion (in real life, I think there will be many reasons not to do it for the book)
I think that's your opinion, why would a guy recap a fucked story like TA to 2 full grown women , that would have them thinking a lot of fucked up shit about you. Like is that what he spends his spare time reading, and why is he asking us about it, is he looking for that type of relationship. What a weirdo.
 

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The one thing Dan can hang his hat on is that he beat the shit out of Lester and tossed his ass outta his house. Even though he failed to capitalize on it and went back doing and letting the same shit go on, I don't understand why have him do it then let it keep happening. So if it comes down to it he can do it again and he and Lester. This is something that is got to be is the back of Lester's head when planning all this shit out.
 
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You interested me in your vision of compromise and openness to discussions.
How do you think a compromise should work when for one of the partners it violates the moral principles and norms of behavior in society (for example, committing an immoral act or wanting to have sex with another partner) it is a divorce or it is better to do it secretly so as not to cause pain to a loved one.
I will compromise with my wife in choosing the color of the paint for the room or breast augmentation, but it is categorically unacceptable for me to go on a date..... with another man, which in this case I do not want my marriage to break up, but I also do not agree to share with another. To what depth do you see the compromise, refusal is not acceptable and you need to look for a way out, that is, allow a date but with certain conditions even if it leads to a divorce
The first thing we have to establish is a boundary between fiction (The TA story) and real life.

In real life: My personal perspective, but backed up by having been married and countless conversations with married adults; you marry someone because you see a person you can have a partnership with, someone you love and respect and someone you want to build a life with, sometimes that involves bringing children into the world, sometimes not. But here's the deal even people who love each other fiercely aren't always on the same page, and there can never be a state of pure equality. And that's where compromise and sacrifice comes into the picture. It's a give and take relationship by nature. Spouse A wants to go dancing, Spouse B doesn't like dancing, but they compromise, they make a personal sacrifice because they know how much joy Spouse A gets from dancing. On the other side of that Spouse B wants to live next door to their parents, but Spouse B doesn't - so they compromise by living within a mile of Spouse B's parents. Spouse A isn't a morning person and doesn't want to get out of bed to make coffee, but what they adore more than anything is seeing the smile on Spouse B's face, when they feel heard and appreciated, because Spouse A made an effort to show their love. These may seem insignificant things on the surface but a marriage is full of these moments of sacrifice and compromise for the greater good, because each spouse wants the marriage to work, to last.

Regarding the Slave/Property comment: A marriage isn't built on permissions or obedience (unless each has agreed and consented to that type of lifestyle). It's built on mutual trust and respect as its foundation and love for one another that binds it. Each spouse has to trust the other will behave in a way that does not harm the marriage, or disrespect their partner. Entering into a marriage with the mindset that a spouse must seek permission on how to dress, or who their friends are, or what they should think; that isn't love - that's divisive, controlling and abusive behavior - it's the antithesis of what a marriage is meant to be.

As for your scenario, at heart I'm a serial monogamist. If I'm in a committed relationship they are the center of my world and I have to trust that I am the center of theirs. I would hope that they would have enough respect for me to have a serious discussion about their needs and why. And if I could meet their needs we could find a path forward (and for the record, being intimate with another would be a deal breaker for me), but if I couldn't meet those needs I would be honest with them and would seek to dissolve the union.

It's late and I'm tired, I'll follow up on the fictional side of your question later.
 

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Told two women a short version of TA, I wanted to see the view from the woman's side of how women think. Briefly theses in which the opinions of women coincided.
1. Definitely Lester. Financial stability, safety and only in third place is sex, provided that Sarah has a head on her shoulders.
2. Lester's physical unattractiveness doesn't matter (it surprised me)
3. Female intuition and cunning influence on Leicester, but without manipulation, because manipulation will not work in the long run.
4. Spending some time with Lester alone is ideally a month to start building a relationship and figure out if it will work.
5. Children are not a problem if Sarah is smart, she will find a way to leave the children with her. If a loser, that's her fate.
6. Stop thinking about what is between your feet and start making radical decisions.
7. Keep Dan at bay as a backup, but stop being bullied.
I was surprised by the cold calculation and mercantilism of their thoughts, but they explained to me that a woman should create the environment and the foundation of future family life. Staying with Dan is a bad option, as with a loser life will be unsuccessful in poverty. A man who cannot ensure financial stability for such a long time will not be able to do it throughout his life.
But all this is provided that Sarah is a smart woman and not a loser like Dan, if she is a stupid empty woman, then that's her way.
PS. Pregnancy does not always play a role, you can have an abortion (in real life, I think there will be many reasons not to do it for the book)
Who are these two women...they need their heads examined...this is crazy..
 
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I had said that women value financial security in a relationship, the man is expected to be the provider for the Home. Remembering that for me when Lester charged 250 thousand to do the work at the Hospital, Sarah was surprised by the amounts and even more so when Lester said he charged little. (So it's unlikely, there will be any way to blame Dan, unless it was all set up to screw Dan, FBI and intelligence sector were bought), Sarah having sex with others so that they would harm Dan in the investigation and arrest him, have sex with the public prosecutor so that he would end up harming Dan in the defense, among other things (Dan never was, IT employee) Dan may even be arrested for a while, but then the setups will be discovered and Sarah and others involved will be arrested. Dan's marriage is over, I know I'm being repetitive, but Dan is like Celebrimbor, about Lester's charm (Sauron), Eregion fell (marriage too). It will be sad if there is no more about Dan, he is already destroyed (have you noticed that Sarah prefers Lester to her daughters = she forgot to pick them up from school, leaves her daughters with their grandparents, not to mention the sex in the children's bed).
 
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Good Evening PC, hope you're doing well.

That's one opinion to have, but not necessarily shared by all.



Please do share written examples where Dan has had an adult conversation with Sarah about how he doesn't like what's happening and he wants it to STOP (note my emphasis on STOP). I'm open to being incorrect and that I may have missed a detail here or there, it is a long series after all. Look forward to reading your examples.


Good example but not completely accurate. There were no guests, but I agree she answered the phone anyways and that was disrespectful:

“Who is it?” Dan asked.
Sarah paused before answering, “Lester. He wants to FaceTime with me.”
“Tell him to go away,” Dan grumbled and went back to looking at the papers in front of him.


However did he say "Sarah I don't like this, please don't answer it" or "Sarah before we have any more interaction with Lester I want us to have an honest discussion." No he held up his hands, said WTF in his head (hoping she would know what that meant) basically showing his frustration and then followed it up with:

“Lester,” Dan said, holding down his anger, “Sarah and I are busy. I don’t have the patience to play one of your games right now, okay? Can you just get on with what you want to say so we can go back to it?”

and later with this:
Dan looked back at Lester’s ugly, fat, smug face taking up the entire phone screen, “What kind of agreement?”

If he had followed up the first part of that section and hung up the call, I would agree with you, he was a man doing what he had to do to protect his marriage and his family. But sadly he didn't, he engaged, knowing full well that Lester is a manipulator. That any kind of agreement would be bad. That's on Dan. Sarah's fault is that she no longer has enough respect for her husband to listen to his advice, or to hear/see what she's doing is not something Dan can control on his own, that he's allowed himself to become a victim of his vices.

It also pokes holes in your theory that, he's swallowing his anger (i.e., putting up with her behavior) out of love and respect. He's not, he leans into it because it feeds his lust and Dan tells you that very thing:

Dan hated the way Lester was talking to him, but the mention of him engaging in ‘carnal pleasures’ with Sarah had him half hard under the table.


This would require a whole post by itself. All I can say is that "IF" (I say IF bc I don't know you and I don't know if you truly believe what you've said) you believe that compromise isn't an essential part of marriage and by proxy the one you love the most isn't worth sacrificing something for them; then that makes me sad.


Not so fast my internet friend. You don't have the right to say I said something I didn't. Those are your words not mine.

I said in the world I live in... spouses are equals and that they do not need their spouses "permission" to have agency over their own body and decisions, that they are not slaves nor property to be owned. Furthermore you missed the bigger point I was making, I made the distinction that it applies to all; both husband and wife should have agency, not one or the other.

If you want to know what my viewpoint is on marriage or other IRL topics, how about next time you just ask. I'm an open book and would be happy to share, no need to make up something and falsely attribute it to me.

I always appreciate healthy debate. Hope you have a good day/evening PC.

Good evening to you too, Viri! I feel a sense of well-being and vitality.

Regarding the comments you made, I would like to say the following:
You illustrate this adequately by incorporating excerpts from the communications as examples in your comments, which I consider to be entirely accurate.

But...
You have overlooked a very important aspect, namely the fact that every time Dan (whether Lester is involved or when it's just the two of them) wants to express his displeasure and annoyance or intervene, Sarah stops him and dissuades him. (Mostly by using her feminine charms... smiling, gestures, innuendo, caresses or soothing actions).

Another example of this is when he came home and saw Lester's car parked in front of the property and his daughter then told him about a ‘monster’ in the house, he immediately felt the urgent desire to rush to the bedroom to possibly break Lester's neck or castrate him.

What happened?
Sarah immediately rushed over to rescue her dirty, ugly, asshole lover and protect him from Dan's angry rage.

She nips any attempt by Dan to act or perhaps engage in a positive, productive discussion in the bud, before it even really begins. With this behavior, she gives Dan the feeling that she enjoys and likes the status quo and wants to continue it.
In short:
even if she doesn't say it directly, it means, “My dear husband Dan, please don't do anything about Lester, I want it this way and don't want any change!”
She takes the wind out of Dan's sails right at the beginning of every conversation and discussion and renders him incapable of action!
She deliberately robs him of his willingness to talk, silencing him and trapping him in his sick fantasy.
The ground beneath his feet disappears... every time, before he can even get started...

With this in mind,
stay healthy and live your life.

-- PC
 
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I am seeing lots of debate about morality here and I like reading everyone's takes here

But aren't we forgetting that point of erotic stories is to eschew morality in favour of pleasure ??

Plus people are calling Dan all sorts of names. So i want to ask how are you gonna have a NTR story without the husband being a cuckold

And I agree with Verisimilinude saying Dan has never had a proper conversation with Sarah since his cuckolding and how he feels

I would also like to add he has never doubted about Sarah's love for him which is even more pathethic

Not even once in his stream of thoughts he pondered that what if Sarah doesn't love him anymore??

He has been an idiot for far too long while Lester has planned to get her since start

Who do you all think truly deserves her??

A husband who has no balls or Lester although evil has the potential