Toxic Attraction DonSilver #Cuckold 8muses forum

[john_doe6711]

For me its not that the husband loses, its that the story is dark and had betrayal, that means, yes, that the husband loses and the troll wins but that makes it more exciting to me, when there is a realistic betrayal that builds. Stories that have the husband treated like crap over and over and over are actually repugnant to me. If you are going to write a wife character who hates on her husband 100% of the time and love on every one else, then why did she marry him? Example: Executive Decision. While well written, my problem is that she is falling into the same tropes that the guy's ex-wife did and swore she would never do that to him. She loves his intelligence and kindness and yet she has started looking down on him because of just that. I get it, he is a numbers guy, but she knew that going in and now it is just so easy for slime that she hated to supplant the husband due to his seeing her as a sales dynamo with the ability to see the advertising picture. She is Don Draper in Mad Men, following the man who is her new svengali. Her Husband is Peggy on Mad Men and now Don, who used to love Peggy now sees her with derision. I wish that, in a lot of ways, that Executive Decision would wrap up in chapter 10 with her apologizing and asking the husband for a divorce. They split up, he quits and finds a job somewhere else, the NY Yankees office as a statistician or something else that will see him have mondo success away from her. Then she can be successful and have a great relationship with her boss. At least it wouldn't be that uncomfortable a read ten chapters from now, when the husband gets hit again and again and again.
Betrayal that builds from a plotted story = good
Treating a husband that does the wife nothing but good like trash repeatedly due to an asshole getting involved = bad.
IMHO.

As always excellent points..

 

[john_doe6711]

Your question isn’t off-topic at all. While we often read fiction to escape reality, social norms still shape our way of thinking about characters. I’d wager almost no one here would willingly admit to identifying with a weak-willed character—it clashes with what social norms teach us to value. That’s neither right nor wrong, just context for my answer.

When presented with a powerful jerk versus a spineless wimp, most readers will instinctively root for the jerk. That’s socially engineered conditioning at work. Others might embrace it as a power fantasy, living vicariously through a character who embodies the control they lack in real life. Then there’s a more troubling crowd: those who despise weakness because they recognize it in themselves and hate it. That’s Darwinism twisted by self-loathing and a lack of empathy to boot. And yes, as Berylflame noted, some just crave tragedy—a morbid curiosity for train-wreck TV.

But here’s the catch: humans are complex and messy, that can’t be reduced to a binary equation of good vs. bad, strong vs. weak. We humans are shaped by forces both internal and external, and the best stories reflect that complexity. As a writer, I especially have to guard against this conditioned response, doing my best to ensure characters feel real rather than one-dimensional parodies.

That said, I’m not above being wrong or misguided in my views--after all I'm a flawed human as well.

Well written...yes we are all flawed and no one is perfect but you should have seen those comments...wow is all I can say..

 

[Oresttitos]

Off topic for a minute here guys why do people vote in favor of the dicks winning no offense to Leicester great character love it but I just read the comments on chapter 14 the bet on everybody wants the husband to be treated like crap the vast majority I don't know if it's morbid curiosity or what but let me tell you this is strange...any comments...

who is without sin, throw a stone at me....
Regarding my comment, I like stories with a happy ending or at least a fair one.
I don't see a future for the Sarah+Dan couple and on the contrary I see a wonderful bright future for Sarah with a man like Lester who will protect her family with whom she will be confident in tomorrow financially, and sex is like the cherry on the cake.
In my opinion, Dan is an NPC and should suffer a cruel lesson and disappear from Sarah's and children's lives, the events with him are irrelevant.
I was touched by the comments about the strong, strong-willed, purposeful Sarah who degraded into a whore.
In ideal conditions, when you are in your place, a person is confident in himself, but how each person will act in a stressful, hopeless situation is a very good question that will not be answered until you experience it personally.

 

[Kabirdaundiyal]

Hey guys requesting anyone who has latest content of eddie wilder to please share?

 

[john_doe6711]

What's up guys if anybody has read chapters 8 and 9 of the bad tenant can you please make a spoiler free breakdown about what's happening with Claire and jack so far just asking

 

[1000yrspain]

who is without sin, throw a stone at me....
Regarding my comment, I like stories with a happy ending or at least a fair one.
I don't see a future for the Sarah+Dan couple and on the contrary I see a wonderful bright future for Sarah with a man like Lester who will protect her family with whom she will be confident in tomorrow financially, and sex is like the cherry on the cake.
In my opinion, Dan is an NPC and should suffer a cruel lesson and disappear from Sarah's and children's lives, the events with him are irrelevant.
I was touched by the comments about the strong, strong-willed, purposeful Sarah who degraded into a whore.
In ideal conditions, when you are in your place, a person is confident in himself, but how each person will act in a stressful, hopeless situation is a very good question that will not be answered until you experience it personally.

I dont think you been reading, Lester is the one that is behind all the bad stuffs for Sarah. He plans to get rid of her kids, he plans to bed her mom, he plans everything out, and you think he will protect her? Guys like Lester, once he is bored with her, he will toss her and her kids like old used condom. DS shows us what Lester is like, his thinking, his planning, and you think he is good for her?

 

[powerconti]

I dont think you been reading, Lester is the one that is behind all the bad stuffs for Sarah. He plans to get rid of her kids, he plans to bed her mom, he plans everything out, and you think he will protect her? Guys like Lester, once he is bored with her, he will toss her and her kids like old used condom. DS shows us what Lester is like, his thinking, his planning, and you think he is good for her?

I fully share your view because I also think that Lester and his ilk are not family people and have no sense of family at all.
People like him are egotists who only think of themselves and their own advantage and would even walk over dead bodies to get where they want to go in the end.
Even if it's TA from a fantasy, some of the comments shed some light on a reader's character, and some of the comments are also very critical.
In this case, I find it hard to come to terms with Dan losing his biological children, who were the centre of his life until he lost his job, to a character like Lester who is so inferior and deviant.
Apart from the fact that the story is probably a dark one and Dan is described as a loser, stupid, spineless, unstable and a wimp, the very thought of it is abhorrent....

-- PC

 

[DarkStutzel]

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[1000yrspain]

I fully share your view because I also think that Lester and his ilk are not family people and have no sense of family at all.
People like him are egotists who only think of themselves and their own advantage and would even walk over dead bodies to get where they want to go in the end.
Even if it's TA from a fantasy, some of the comments shed some light on a reader's character, and some of the comments are also very critical.
In this case, I find it hard to come to terms with Dan losing his biological children, who were the centre of his life until he lost his job, to a character like Lester who is so inferior and deviant.
Apart from the fact that the story is probably a dark one and Dan is described as a loser, stupid, spineless, unstable and a wimp, the very thought of it is abhorrent....

-- PC

The category this story falls into where the husband loose and the bad guy win. I been reading many many stories and watching many many japanese AV to know that this is the style for this type of category. You don't see many husbands win here, this category is all about the old ugly fat dude get the hot wife. But just seeing people thinks that the female character would be better with the bad guy is just not very logical. You know, like Lester been planning all these evils act to Sarah and her husband, get them both fire, make sex video to sell, thinking how to get rid of her kids, planning to get her pregnant....but yet, a lot of readers thinking that she would be best with a guy like that....just mind boggling to me. It is like people seeing a politician lie cheat steal murder and everything bad but still saying I would vote for the dude....or saying yeah, the wife needs to go and be with her physical or mentally abusive husband....yeah, that is good for her. I mean, I just don't understand people I guess. DS spells out how evil and bad Lester is...he hasn't say much about Lester past projects yet...I am sure Lester got many wives pregnant in the past....and we don't see those women with him or him taking responsibility for it......and yet somehow readers still thinking ...yeah, she would be happy with that dude....just boggle the mind to me.

 

[Minscnboo]

I recall in a previous chapter Don mentioned that Sarah is Lester's first married woman. It is implied he preyed on unsuspecting roommates in the past (Lizzie is the latest until Sarah)

 

[Emi_was_here]

I feel like the only person here who wants to see Lester and the mum hooking up lol. I am probably a bit biased towards that kink though.

I do agree what some others have said that the side characters have been a weaker part of the story and would have preferred some of them had never been included.

As a side note I am pretty new to this kink and so far, have read ‘Neighbour Chronicles’, ‘Cassandra’s Adventures’ and up to date with ‘Toxic Attraction’. If anyone has similar recommendations to these, I would love to hear them!

 

[Verisimilinude]

The category this story falls into where the husband loose and the bad guy win. I been reading many many stories and watching many many japanese AV to know that this is the style for this type of category. You don't see many husbands win here, this category is all about the old ugly fat dude get the hot wife. But just seeing people thinks that the female character would be better with the bad guy is just not very logical. You know, like Lester been planning all these evils act to Sarah and her husband, get them both fire, make sex video to sell, thinking how to get rid of her kids, planning to get her pregnant....but yet, a lot of readers thinking that she would be best with a guy like that....just mind boggling to me. It is like people seeing a politician lie cheat steal murder and everything bad but still saying I would vote for the dude....or saying yeah, the wife needs to go and be with her physical or mentally abusive husband....yeah, that is good for her. I mean, I just don't understand people I guess. DS spells out how evil and bad Lester is...he hasn't say much about Lester past projects yet...I am sure Lester got many wives pregnant in the past....and we don't see those women with him or him taking responsibility for it......and yet somehow readers still thinking ...yeah, she would be happy with that dude....just boggle the mind to me.

TA is labeled and tagged as NTR, so you know walking into the story what you're getting. If you are reading TA and expecting a different outcome, then honestly, I'm not sure what to tell you.

To your larger question it's very simple really. A large portion of us readers (I'd like to say all of us but that's statistically not accurate) have the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because we may find the themes or concepts of a story interesting to read about, does not equate to what we would choose to happen in real life. I'm open to being corrected if I'm not understanding your intent, but based on your comments it would seem you are trying to comingle these facts. Positioning it so that if people like to read X it must mean they want/would accept X in real life. I can't speak for everyone, but feel like a lot would agree, that this notion is patently false. I don't read a fantasy novel because I want dragons scorching my city, just as I don't read taboo erotica because I want those taboos to intrude into my bedroom.

I don't read erotica because it's wish fulfillment or because I want to condone some behaviors in real life. I read it to escape from reality. Why? Because it's fiction, it's interesting and most importantly it's safe to explore in one's own mind.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I feel like the only person here who wants to see Lester and the mum hooking up lol. I am probably a bit biased towards that kink though.

I do agree what some others have said that the side characters have been a weaker part of the story and would have preferred some of them had never been included.

As a side note I am pretty new to this kink and so far, have read ‘Neighbour Chronicles’, ‘Cassandra’s Adventures’ and up to date with ‘Toxic Attraction’. If anyone has similar recommendations to these, I would love to hear them!

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[Verisimilinude]

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I like the writing, but I have two concerns.
The chapters are short and they feel...choppy is the best word I can use to describe it.
And the story seems to bounce around a lot. The first few chapters you think it's going one way then it goes a different direction, then back and then a new direction. Maybe it would read better if it was collected in a longer format. IDK.

 

[john_doe6711]

TA is labeled and tagged as NTR, so you know walking into the story what you're getting. If you are reading TA and expecting a different outcome, then honestly, I'm not sure what to tell you.

To your larger question it's very simple really. A large portion of us readers (I'd like to say all of us but that's statistically not accurate) have the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because we may find the themes or concepts of a story interesting to read about, does not equate to what we would choose to happen in real life. I'm open to being corrected if I'm not understanding your intent, but based on your comments it would seem you are trying to comingle these facts. Positioning it so that if people like to read X it must mean they want/would accept X in real life. I can't speak for everyone, but feel like a lot would agree, that this notion is patently false. I don't read a fantasy novel because I want dragons scorching my city, just as I don't read taboo erotica because I want those taboos to intrude into my bedroom.

I don't read erotica because it's wish fulfillment or because I want to condone some behaviors in real life. I read it to escape from reality. Why? Because it's fiction, it's interesting and most importantly it's safe to explore in one's own mind.

I hope I'm not putting my foot in my mouth here but I do believe a lot of people (not talking about anyone on here)can't differentiate the two...fiction/reality...because the way their comments are..again no one on here...it's as if they really had an opportunity to do that or see it on fold in real life they would...not just TA but almost every NTR story you read and then read the comments more of the commenters are on the side of the person that is trying to destroy the family/marriage...I'm just saying some people's mind are a little more twisted than others..

 

[Verisimilinude]

I hope I'm not putting my foot in my mouth here but I do believe a lot of people (not talking about anyone on here)can't differentiate the two...fiction/reality...because the way their comments are..again no one on here...it's as if they really had an opportunity to do that or see it on fold in real life they would...not just TA but almost every NTR story you read and then read the comments more of the commenters are on the side of the person that is trying to destroy the family/marriage...I'm just saying some people's mind are a little more twisted than others..

Oh I agree there are twisted individuals in the world, hence why I said it's statistically inaccurate to say all. However to your comment about the things people say on the internet. I attribute a lot of that to the "mob mentality" effect. People say a lot of things on the internet that they don't actually believe with any conviction because that environment is an anonymous bubble.

But this goes to my point of separating fiction from reality. I can read a persons comment and understand when they are discussing the story vs. what they would want in real life.

Example: I can make the statement that "Lester is a wiser choice for Sarah vs Richard." Why? Because it makes no sense based on what's been previously written. Lester has, to this point, conditioned Sarah to accept him, and provided copious examples that he will allow her to enjoy her sexual needs and has the financial resources to "take care" of her. As opposed to her choosing Richard who is an unknown wildcard.

However would I let either of these men near my wife if they were real people--FUCK NO.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I recall in a previous chapter Don mentioned that Sarah is Lester's first married woman. It is implied he preyed on unsuspecting roommates in the past (Lizzie is the latest until Sarah)

I think it was actually talked about blatantly, in terms of exposition, Lester always preyed upon female roommates.

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

I feel like the only person here who wants to see Lester and the mum hooking up lol. I am probably a bit biased towards that kink though.

I do agree what some others have said that the side characters have been a weaker part of the story and would have preferred some of them had never been included.

As a side note I am pretty new to this kink and so far, have read ‘Neighbour Chronicles’, ‘Cassandra’s Adventures’ and up to date with ‘Toxic Attraction’. If anyone has similar recommendations to these, I would love to hear them!

I am only for Lester sleeping with Sarah's mom if Sarah watches, so lost in her world that she gets off on her Mom joining her in cheating on their spouses with Lester. Sarah actively pushing her mother toward cheating on her dad (maybe so she can show them that they have no right to judge her, who knows), especially if she is doing it because Lester asked her to is dark, could be hot if done properly, and is both dirty and satisfying. Picture Sarah's dad ragging on her again while Sarah keeps thinking , "maybe you should take care of yourself and your marriage, Old Man."

 

[Emi_was_here]

I am only for Lester sleeping with Sarah's mom if Sarah watches, so lost in her world that she gets off on her Mom joining her in cheating on their spouses with Lester. Sarah actively pushing her mother toward cheating on her dad (maybe so she can show them that they have no right to judge her, who knows), especially if she is doing it because Lester asked her to is dark, could be hot if done properly, and is both dirty and satisfying. Picture Sarah's dad ragging on her again while Sarah keeps thinking , "maybe you should take care of yourself and your marriage, Old Man."

That is how I imagine it happening. Maybe have Lester initially start corrupting Sarah’s mum without her knowledge and whilst he is not investing as much time into Sarah as he previously was, she starts to get frustrated with him. Eventually she caves and decides to go to Lester where she finds him and her mum together and she can’t help but watch it all unfold.

For myself at least I think this would be a pretty hot scenario but guessing I’m in the minority here lol. I do think your setup would also be really hot though!

 

[john_doe6711]

Oh I agree there are twisted individuals in the world, hence why I said it's statistically inaccurate to say all. However to your comment about the things people say on the internet. I attribute a lot of that to the "mob mentality" effect. People say a lot of things on the internet that they don't actually believe with any conviction because that environment is an anonymous bubble.

But this goes to my point of separating fiction from reality. I can read a persons comment and understand when they are discussing the story vs. what they would want in real life.

Example: I can make the statement that "Lester is a wiser choice for Sarah vs Richard." Why? Because it makes no sense based on what's been previously written. Lester has, to this point, conditioned Sarah to accept him, and provided copious examples that he will allow her to enjoy her sexual needs and has the financial resources to "take care" of her. As opposed to her choosing Richard who is an unknown wildcard.

However would I let either of these men near my wife if they were real people--FUCK NO.

LMAO....love the ending line...understood