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Verisimilinude

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Did someone force her to do something? A person made a choice and reaps the fruits, and we follow it.
You know my stance on this as I've said it in the past. All three MCs have slightly equal blame in the tragedy of this marriage. Taking a very high level view of the story, one could even make the argument that all three have acted selfishly in getting what they want.


So many questions and so few answers. It is the author who knows how to ask questions and make the reader think, in my opinion, who creates masterpieces.
I agree the that some of best stories are those that force the reader to think and leave some questions for the reader to answer for themselves.
 
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Don only write for hard cuck sub
I think this is inaccurate. But that assumes that by "hard" you mean leaning into the cuck theme. I would make the argument that for the first 7 chaps, it had mild cuckoldry elements (because from Dan's POV it was sharing not cuckolding). The mid chapters had a few more direct cuck elements. From about chap 17 on, there have been almost no cuckoldry elements. But that also goes to your definition of cuckoldry. It's my understanding that it means the husband derives some form of enjoyment from hearing about or witnessing the wife's liaisons. Dan's been practically in the dark about Sarah's activities, so to me it doesn't fit the definition and certainly doesn't reach the level of "leaned into."


there is to much sx scene
Please note I'm not mocking you, I just found your comment to be fascinating. I've never heard this viewpoint before that erotica had or could have too much sex scenes. Would you be willing to expound on this thought?
 
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Can I disagree with you about this “Lester vs Richard” points?

I mean what about if Sarah doesn’t trust Lester and in her mind he is a little bit more than a “pawn” for sexual “gratification”? Would not be more coherent if she tries to be independent from him? Richard should be seen in this way. Of course she would depend on Richard but he would be her chief in any case.

My thinking is that people supposes Sarah is a passive actor but 32 chapters have demonstrated that she is not passive at all! She wants to keep her independence
I insist that you do, healthy discussion is built on challenging viewpoints without being disrespectful.

It's a logical viewpoint, however I base my views on what's written. Example from ch32: If Sarah had simply said out loud that "She loved Lester, or had feelings for him, etc" then I could believe that she was using Lester to her own advantage and could later claim it was just "sex talk." However she had a lot of inner monologue where she thought through her feelings, this to me means they are facts for her character, that the feelings are genuine. Could DS write some 'gotcha scene' later in the series, sure he could do that, but he'd lose any trust he has with his readers. No one likes the rug pulled out from under them, without there being a foundation for plausibility, or hints of possibility being written prior to the 'gotcha scene.'

Having said that, I have a sneaking suspicion that you may be right in a sense. That at the very end, Sarah will be the only one to walk away from this car wreck, scarred for sure, but unbroken.
 
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I feel like the only person here who wants to see Lester and the mum hooking up lol. I am probably a bit biased towards that kink though.

I do agree what some others have said that the side characters have been a weaker part of the story and would have preferred some of them had never been included.

As a side note I am pretty new to this kink and so far, have read ‘Neighbour Chronicles’, ‘Cassandra’s Adventures’ and up to date with ‘Toxic Attraction’. If anyone has similar recommendations to these, I would love to hear them!
There all the same, they also tend to follow the same pattern. Husband pushed wife to do something she doesn't want to do. The guy always has the biggest dick on earth so now the wife can't think about anything but dudes dick. She forgets about the rules her and husband set. She starts lying and going behind husbands back, usually by then the wife will fuck other men that the husband knows nothing about. Husband will say something about putting an end to it wife will get pissed off because he was the one wanting it. But he never wanted the lies and the other men it was just supposed to be a little fun but wife went crazy. But back to the pattern, they'll try and stop but most of the time the wife will never stop but even if she does, the husband will keep have fantasia about it. He'll breakdown and ask her to do it again but she'll state that if she does they'll be no stopping. Usually after that the story will end, the wife fore the most part won't leave the husband. But it'll show him as a loser jerking off in the corner wandering how it got this far or he'll be loving it. Either way it'll end in a vague non closure kinda of way. Now that's about how 90% of the super cuck stories go. I'll let you n on another two cents of thinking is that the husband always come out on the bottom. The thinking by the authors is that once the wife has a big dick that they loose all sense of their self worth and lose the ability of worrying or fearing their husbands finding out and leaving them. Their only concern from now on is cock.
 

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Just read the last chapter of trinity, it goes on a bad cheating road and there is to much sx scene and no character evolution. Seems like Rabbleraid influence is much more than Vivian, i dont kike Rabbleraid stories, he is not on lvl with Vivian
Rabbielaid, from what I understand is a woman. A woman who lives in a universe that hates men. Well some men , it's more hate for spouses like husbands and boyfriends. In all her stories the husbands all get humiliated and crushed by the other man. The wife always fall in love with the tormenters and leave the husbands in a puddle of tears and jizz. Her writings go out of the normal just so she can circle back and stomp on these guys in a bad way. And her collaboration on the Trinity are starting to show. The male character in that story is a complete window licking moron about what his wife is doin and gripped in to much fear to say anything. They promised him a threesome after he let his wife have one and she still having them behind his back while he wonders when is he gonna be afford his chance. In most of Rabbieland storylines she make the wife out to be completely in love with their husbands but it never actually shown that that's the case because they never act like it. It's like someone did something really bad to her and she just keeps projecting her feelings of what happened on the same character in her writing. It like she's hate some guy so much so she just keeps writing a character based on him just so she can dismantle him in every story. Meanwhile secretly hoping he'll read them and then he mite understand what he did to her. But then again I could be wrong. It happened once.
 
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Rabbielaid, from what I understand is a woman. A woman who lives in a universe that hates men. Well some men , it's more hate for spouses like husbands and boyfriends. In all her stories the husbands all get humiliated and crushed by the other man. The wife always fall in love with the tormenters and leave the husbands in a puddle of tears and jizz. Her writings go out of the normal just so she can circle back and stomp on these guys in a bad way. And her collaboration on the Trinity are starting to show. The male character in that story is a complete window licking moron about what his wife is doin and gripped in to much fear to say anything. They promised him a threesome after he let his wife have one and she still having them behind his back while he wonders when is he gonna be afford his chance. In most of Rabbieland storylines she make the wife out to be completely in love with their husbands but it never actually shown that that's the case because they never act like it. It's like someone did something really bad to her and she just keeps projecting her feelings of what happened on the same character in her writing. It like she's hate some guy so much so she just keeps writing a character based on him just so she can dismantle him in every story. Meanwhile secretly hoping he'll read them and then he mite understand what he did to her. But then again I could be wrong. It happened once.
Why do you care about the husband? Why is there so much sympathy for the cucks in this genre? Why do people instinctively identify with them instead of the guy fucking the wife? I read these stories completely different to everyone else it seems.

You say "she" hates men but "she's" writing the ultimate male fantasy of being able to fuck extremely attractive women despite being fat,ugly, short and old
 

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FYI: it's a man writing the story. He said so in a patreon Q&A

What is your gender?: Ok, not an actual question that I received, but I did see this misconception pop up. Sorry if this disappoints you, but I am a man. I get this a lot, a combination of a female in my profile pic (I'll get to this later), a chipper attitude, and a gender-neutral pen name
 

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I think this is inaccurate. But that assumes that by "hard" you mean leaning into the cuck theme. I would make the argument that for the first 7 chaps, it had mild cuckoldry elements (because from Dan's POV it was sharing not cuckolding). The mid chapters had a few more direct cuck elements. From about chap 17 on, there have been almost no cuckoldry elements. But that also goes to your definition of cuckoldry. It's my understanding that it means the husband derives some form of enjoyment from hearing about or witnessing the wife's liaisons. Dan's been practically in the dark about Sarah's activities, so to me it doesn't fit the definition and certainly doesn't reach the level of "leaned into."



Please note I'm not mocking you, I just found your comment to be fascinating. I've never heard this viewpoint before that erotica had or could have too much sex scenes. Would you be willing to expound on this thought?
In Vivian stories the amount of sex scene and developpement character scene are balance, but in Trinity there is no balance, from the threesome to now there is only sex scene with little developement, i think its Rabbleraid influcence
 
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Why do you care about the husband? Why is there so much sympathy for the cucks in this genre? Why do people instinctively identify with them instead of the guy fucking the wife? I read these stories completely different to everyone else it seems.

You say "she" hates men but "she's" writing the ultimate male fantasy of being able to fuck extremely attractive women despite being fat,ugly, short and old
Im more a hotwife fan stories with strong husband, majority of cuck stories are so bad cause they paint the husband as a weak, wimp , dumb, little dick man. Its not fun at all to see a weak character get cuck, we want someone who can fight and win.
 
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Verisimilinude

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In Vivian stories the amount of sex scene and development character scene are balance, but in Trinity there is no balance, from the threesome to now there is only sex scene with little development, i think its Rabbleraid influence
Oh, okay, I understand what you mean now. You feel that Trinity in particular has high sex/story ratio. However for Trinity: Is it possible you just don't like Rabbelaid's writing? The first chapter is almost exclusively dedicated to setup and development. Then the chapter after the 3some is again almost all about development.

Im more a hotwife fan stories with strong husband
With all due sincerity can you recommend a story that fits this definition? I'd like to read it.


majority of cuck stories are so bad cause they paint the husband as a weak, wimp , dumb, little dick man. Its not fun at all to see a weak character get cuck, we want someone who can fight and win.
I admit there is a larger number of stories (not just cuck stories) where the husband is shown as weak. You do recognize you can't say "we" because you aren't able to represent everyone who reads erotica, right? I get it, you (based on your comments) don't like cuck stories and I have no issue with that, read what you like, but are you not able to allow that there is a population of readers who do enjoy cuck stories in general and cuck stories with weak husbands in specific? And not only is there a population for it, they should be allowed to enjoy reading it? Just like you should be allowed to read pure or trad hotwife stories with a secure/strong husband?
 

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Also the weak cuck dynamic is way more realistic. Sorry, but you can't be a strong, morally upright husband and want to see your wife get fucked by other men. You're a loser and should be portrayed as such. The real life version is Dan is worse.
 

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Also the weak cuck dynamic is way more realistic. Sorry, but you can't be a strong, morally upright husband and want to see your wife get fucked by other men. You're a loser and should be portrayed as such. The real life version is Dan is worse.
I don't know...BILL from neighbor chronicles wasn't written weak and the guy from side business another NTR story also wasn't written weak and they both wanted to see their wives with other men...but I get your point..
 
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I feel like the only person here who wants to see Lester and the mum hooking up lol. I am probably a bit biased towards that kink though.

I do agree what some others have said that the side characters have been a weaker part of the story and would have preferred some of them had never been included.

As a side note I am pretty new to this kink and so far, have read ‘Neighbour Chronicles’, ‘Cassandra’s Adventures’ and up to date with ‘Toxic Attraction’. If anyone has similar recommendations to these, I would love to hear them!
As a fellow newbie, i would recommend j267's works. King booruwa/king b is another one of my favorites, though his stories are little on the outlandish side. Cucked by an incel is also great.
 
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It is nice to see this thread alive again. Reminds me of the Chillie Willie Era (hope he is well).

While reading all the serious comments about cheating and ramifications I had a thought: is there a funny/silly/absurd story in this genre that you encountered?! (or a funny idea you had while reading a regular story). It could be a straight comedy or parody/fanfiction.

The most absurd ntr story I've encountered is actually a jav (JUL 278) involving *drumroll* timetravel cuckolding. Yes, you read it right, time-travel cuckolding. It's about a wife divorcing her husband because she cheated with his friend, the husband finds her diary, which turned out to be a time portal transferring him to the moment before the affair begins. He then travels to the past multiple times to stop his friend and win her over. Each time, no matter what he does the affair still happens, and each time the couple gets more passionate and enthusiastic than before. It's a bizzare video complete with a Shyamalan-ian twist.
 

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It is nice to see this thread alive again. Reminds me of the Chillie Willie Era (hope he is well).
Yeah I miss our conversations. The mystery of his disappearing concerns me but I hope you are right and that he's off somewhere living his best life.

While reading all the serious comments about cheating and ramifications I had a thought: is there a funny/silly/absurd story in this genre that you encountered?! (or a funny idea you had while reading a regular story). It could be a straight comedy or parody/fanfiction.
Can't put a name to one at the moment. Though most of the absurd ones are due to poor writing than intentionality. Get_Bugged's "Something's Off" is the closest thing I can think of. Mind you the writing is good, it's just got a creepy vibe too to it that is unsettling.

The most absurd ntr story I've encountered is actually a jav (JUL 278) involving *drumroll* timetravel cuckolding. Yes, you read it right, time-travel cuckolding. It's about a wife divorcing her husband because she cheated with his friend, the husband finds her diary, which turned out to be a time portal transferring him to the moment before the affair begins. He then travels to the past multiple times to stop his friend and win her over. Each time, no matter what he does the affair still happens, and each time the couple gets more passionate and enthusiastic than before. It's a bizzare video complete with a Shyamalan-ian twist.
That does sound bizarre, and yet intriguing at the same time.
 
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Why do you care about the husband? Why is there so much sympathy for the cucks in this genre? Why do people instinctively identify with them instead of the guy fucking the wife? I read these stories completely different to everyone else it seems.

You say "she" hates men but "she's" writing the ultimate male fantasy of being able to fuck extremely attractive women despite being fat,ugly, short and old
Why do you care about the husband? Why is there so much sympathy for the cucks in this genre? Why do people instinctively identify with them instead of the guy fucking the wife? I read these stories completely different to everyone else it seems.

You say "she" hates men but "she's" writing the ultimate male fantasy of being able to fuck extremely attractive women despite being fat,ugly, short and old
You might be a fat old short ugly guy so I can see why her stories are your fantasies. I don't identify as anyone in these stories, if anything I see myself as like a work friend. Just looking at everything from the outside. I know it just a story, I just gave my opinion. Most people don't care about others opinions, fine. But you'd have to be blind not to pick up that all her stories tend to follow a pattern of distain for husband/boyfriend. I find it hard to believe that you picture yourself being the fat ugly character , other then the looks, mostly because the stories narrative in written in a why to where you are put in the husband/spouse place. Or it's written to where you hear the thoughts and feelings of the wife. It's rare that it's written to where your reading about the fat ugly guy's thoughts. But any case with you wanting to be a fat ugly old guy, I would never post anything wandering why you feel like a far old ugly guy.
 
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Why do you care about the husband? Why is there so much sympathy for the cucks in this genre? Why do people instinctively identify with them instead of the guy fucking the wife? I read these stories completely different to everyone else it seems.
I always identify with the bull. My goal is to chase, subdue, impose, find their weaknesses and keep them under control. The thrill is making them do what I want, the way I want. The chase is thrilling.
 
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I always identify with the bull. My goal is to chase, subdue, impose, find their weaknesses and keep them under control. The thrill is making them do what I want, the way I want. The chase is thrilling.
I am not sure about identifying with the bull, but my mindset is more understanding of the bull. I don't get the cuck side of things and am way to far Alpha in my own sphere to ever even try that. I do understand wanting to be the big guy in a small pond as it were, though...that is me.