bobby006

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Apr 8, 2021
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So i have been playing the game and trying to figure out what the pattern of chad's gifts
I know that our action influence his action
As of the latest version

1. Is there a formula for the pattern?
2. When/where does an interaction count towards his attitude?
3. Is his gift value random or is it related to our action?

On another note, is there another game similair to this? Like what do you call these type of game
 
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PrototypeMan

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So i have been playing the game and trying to figure out what the pattern of chad's gifts
I know that our action influence his action
As of the latest version

1. Is there a formula for the pattern?
2. When/where does an interaction count towards his attitude?
3. Is his gift value random or is it related to our action?

On another note, is there another game similair to this?
1. No pattern - full random.
2. When we gifting, he, by "stalking us", remember that and prepare himself to gift girls "the same time".

The pattern: Chad`s gifts = "pity" + MC`s gifts
"pity" = 1, if MC`s last day gifts > 0, else "pity" = "pity" -1. The value can be negative (!).

3. Random - he was too far to see which gifts MC are gifting.

Worst case: max gifts each day + each gift = bar.
Normal case: no gifts - MC will get +3 to affection after talking, so, one way or another, he`ll max out relationship with each girl.
Best case: relax/talk next 7 days -> 6 gifts in next day -> relax/talk next 7 days -> 6 gifts ... repeat.

In "Normal" and "Best case" Chad will gift each day 1 gift, so Cross will help to remove all his affection if he`ll get +10 to someone.
 
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bobby006

Newbie
Apr 8, 2021
15
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1. No pattern - full random.
2. When we gifting, he, by "stalking us", remember that and prepare himself to gift girls "the same time".

The pattern: Chad`s gifts = "pity" + MC`s gifts
"pity" = 1, if MC`s last day gifts > 0, else "pity" = "pity" -1. The value can be negative (!).

3. Random - he was too far to see which gifts MC are gifting.

Worst case: max gifts each day + each gift = bar.
Normal case: no gifts - MC will get +3 to affection after talking, so, one way or another, he`ll max out relationship with each girl.
Best case: relax/talk next 7 days -> 6 gifts in next day -> relax/talk next 7 days -> 6 gifts ... repeat.

In "Normal" and "Best case" Chad will gift each day 1 gift, so Cross will help to remove all his affection if he`ll get +10 to someone.
Can you explain Normal and Best case using an example?
 

PrototypeMan

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Can you explain Normal and Best case using an example?
Chad can`t gift 0, so, at least 1 girl get something from him.

1st day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 1)
2nd day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 1 - 1 = 0)
3rd day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 0 - 1 = -1)
4th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -1 - 1 = -2)
5th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -2 - 1 = -3)
6th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -3 - 1 = -4)
7th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -4 - 1 = -5)
8th day: MC gift = 6, Chad gift = 6 - 5 (MC gift + pity) = 1 (pity reset)
9th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 1) ...

The difference between Normal and Best case is "savescuming" the +3 when MC are taking with girls in inn 1st floor/camp - the last won`t care about that and just gift 6 gifts each 8th day.
 
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bobby006

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Apr 8, 2021
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Chad can`t gift 0, so, at least 1 girl get something from him.

1st day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 1)
2nd day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 1 - 1 = 0)
3rd day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 0 - 1 = -1)
4th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -1 - 1 = -2)
5th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -2 - 1 = -3)
6th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -3 - 1 = -4)
7th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = -4 - 1 = -5)
8th day: MC gift = 6, Chad gift = 6 - 5 (MC gift + pity) = 1 (pity reset)
9th day: MC gift = 0, Chad gift = 1 (pity = 1) ...

The difference between Normal and Best case is "savescuming" the +3 when MC are taking with girls in inn 1st floor/camp - the last won`t care about that and just gift 6 gifts each 8th day.
Thank you for this
Btw does progressing the relationship stage in camp count as something?
 

RMelton

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My experience with 9.6c so far
About Unsatisfied Sex: Plan ahead if you want to unlock this scene, because if you "perform well" in bed and unlock a bunch of title which raise the base love level of the main girl above 50, you're basically lock out of the scene and need to use tool to unlock.
Trap Room: Only MC have scene, Chad have no scene.
Chad Room: The description said " For heroines who had their Rival 4b scene viewed or have done Prostitution 5 times" , so far for my test, it need both Prostitution and R4b to work, it mean for girl like Risa if you let her get stolen by Chad, the scene also will be locked.
Redone Chad's Night Sex: I test on both unlock the 4b Rival scene natural way or use cheat book, none of them work, I don't know if this mean you can peak at night or get a scene said "Chad have his way with xxx" when you sleep. Anyway, I didn't see any scene.
And bug, a lot of them, but fortunately none of them are game breaker for me so far (plus I backup my save frequently) .
Conclusion: There are no need to go for Chad NTR save file since he doesn't have a lot to offer (a lot of his scene can be unlock via cheat). You most likely miss Risa / Mala / Karen inn scene (which can be unlock and view by cheat), and the peek scene for R4b.You can just go for Vanila stuff, then prostitution the Heroine 5 times + Use cheat to unlock R4b to view the Chad Room / Hot Spring scene in dungeon. For Unsatisfied Sex you can unlock them natural if you plan ahead, or just use cheat, and at the end you also see the scene of "Chad have his way with xxx" .
Regarding the unsatisfied sex events, it seems like there is a way currently to manually lower the love. If you have acquired the girl's special fondle 1 position, then at night during the session select it (which raises love by 5), then choose the stop with no climax option, this lowers the love by 10. Then you just keep doing it till it goes lower than 50.
 

PrototypeMan

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Thank you for this
Btw does progressing the relationship stage in camp count as something?
No, this is won`t change the Chad gifts.

Update: thanks to dirtyotaku13, i can pinpoint the moment, that in "full random chad gifts" formula was a one detail, that i forgot to mention - a "gift loop", a random part, created by DEV for players, who are thinking, that controlling the target of chad gifts is not fair (for that moment, my formula is working as intended). In such situation, Chad is meeting with each girl who was in that day on square and really toss 1d2 - "gift" or "no gift". After meeting with each girl once, Chad checks "total Chad gifts" for that day and if he gifted less that total, the "gift loop" will repeat. So, if "total Chad gifts" are negative by MC, who won`t gift to girls, then ...

1) in "full random gifts" - Chad initiating one "gift loop" when each girl have 50% chance to get/not get gift, where he can even not give anything (!) ... or give gift to each girl (!!!)
2) in "MC choose the gift`s target" - Chad gifts at least 1 gift and that`s it
 
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bobby006

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Apr 8, 2021
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btw
did the developer put anything of what they expect the version 1.0 (full release) to look like?
the project seems complete in a glance so im not sure whats missing there
 

YouShallNotLol

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btw
did the developer put anything of what they expect the version 1.0 (full release) to look like?
the project seems complete in a glance so im not sure whats missing there
For one, devs have been talking a lot about "girlfriend battle" feature they want to implement. Where you could fuck Chad's other sluts who haven't appeared in the game yet. Including the slut who had given birth to Chad's daughter.
We'll be cucking some poor kid, by fucking her mom. Lol.

By the way, has anyone found the trap room with Gorebolarp? I can't find it in eiter outer or inner dungeon.
 
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Xenoxblades

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For one, devs have been talking a lot about "girlfriend battle" feature they want to implement. Where you could fuck Chad's other sluts who haven't appeared in the game yet. Including the slut who had given birth to Chad's daughter.
We'll be cucking some poor kid, by fucking her mom. Lol.

By the way, has anyone found the trap room with Gorebolarp? I can't find it in eiter outer or inner dungeon.
Yes. Regarding the trap, either keep trying or use the cheatbook to teleport to trap room. If you save the girl, there is usually a scene for MC, but not for Chad
 

dirtyotaku13

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From what I can tell reading the event script, the trap room can only show up in the inner dungeon with a 1/25 chance if you're on floor 29 or below and 1/26 chance if you're 30 or above.

Basically each of the special rooms has an equal chance to appear when you go through a door with the exception of the room that unlocks the inner dungeon which only gets added to the possible rooms if you're at least on floor 30. The Inner dungeon works the same, just with the trap room added to the list of possible rooms from the first floor. Definitely think it would be nice to have an item or something that you can use to make certain rooms more likely to appear because a 1/25 is ridiculous if you wanted to see something specific...
 

YouShallNotLol

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From what I can tell reading the event script, the trap room can only show up in the inner dungeon with a 1/25 chance if you're on floor 29 or below and 1/26 chance if you're 30 or above.

Basically each of the special rooms has an equal chance to appear when you go through a door with the exception of the room that unlocks the inner dungeon which only gets added to the possible rooms if you're at least on floor 30. The Inner dungeon works the same, just with the trap room added to the list of possible rooms from the first floor. Definitely think it would be nice to have an item or something that you can use to make certain rooms more likely to appear because a 1/25 is ridiculous if you wanted to see something specific...
Yes. Regarding the trap, either keep trying or use the cheatbook to teleport to trap room. If you save the girl, there is usually a scene for MC, but not for Chad
So I just have to keep savescumming more. Got it.
 

bobby006

Newbie
Apr 8, 2021
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For one, devs have been talking a lot about "girlfriend battle" feature they want to implement. Where you could fuck Chad's other sluts who haven't appeared in the game yet. Including the slut who had given birth to Chad's daughter.
We'll be cucking some poor kid, by fucking her mom. Lol.

By the way, has anyone found the trap room with Gorebolarp? I can't find it in eiter outer or inner dungeon.
Wait....chad has a kid?
I must have blanked when they explained
....when did they say this to the player?
 

YouShallNotLol

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Wait....chad has a kid?
I must have blanked when they explained
....when did they say this to the player?
None of that is in the game yet, for now it's all in their public devlogs:




Those devlogs reveal that Marida is no less of a cuck than a ultra-hardmode difficulty MC-kun. She loves Chad, while being just another side hoe. :KEK:
 
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At this point, I feel like they're adding too much stuff. I feel like I'm liking it less and less as more new stuff gets added. I've played a few other games in the past with similar problems, where the game was great, until they just kept adding more characters and backstories and events and content in general to the point it just became an overly busy, confusing mess of a slog. It ended up detracting from the game, not enhancing it. That's just how I feel, though.
 
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