YouShallNotLol

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Not likely since the Kitsune equivalent in TiTS (Sionach) was trashed a long time ago. And like hell Tobs will be enticed to write for a setting with no Kitsune.
That's not a problem for TOBS. He'll insert his shitsunes into some corner of the TiTS world and continue doing what he does.
Besides CoC2, he already did it with a non-porn game. He paid unspecified loads of cash to get his shitsunes added to that game. Icluding the Kinu. Yes, The Kinu.
 

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I still don't think that was Tobs tbh. He's already in a project where he has autonomy/greater control to manage his OC's. Expending money to insert them into another project does not make any sense. And regardless of what the consensus is on the CoC2 thread, lots of people still like Kiyoko, Kinu, and the rest of the Kitsune Den. So it's probably just an overzealous fan.
 
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Honestly I am just baffled, I know project management might as well be a distant dream there but what advantage was there to shelving william's plans? From my understanding there is already several google docs out there on several characters and he wanted to write more, hell they could have milked implementing just one character for half a year under the guise of "making sure its "polished" or code doesn't crash the game", and I don't think anyone would've been opposed to these characters either here or on their forums.

The only two reasons I can even think makes general sense was will asking for more money or equivalent more than what fenoxo was willing to pay or the more likely is that Fen considers himself an """"artist""" and didn't want to be out shown in either quality or quantity.

Now on a side not I haven't really gone through any of the doc's but did any of his characters interact with other characters or quest in a heavy way? As that is the only sort of coding issue I can think that can crop up when implementing them.
 

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I still don't think that was Tobs tbh. He's already in a project where he has autonomy/greater control to manage his OC's. Expending money to insert them into another project does not make any sense. And regardless of what the consensus is on the CoC2 thread, lots of people still like Kiyoko, Kinu, and the rest of the Kitsune Den. So it's probably just an overzealous fan.
The two fox races and their god's background have that same vibe as his overly verbose writing does

Scroll down to backers comments and expand.
 
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I still don't think that was Tobs tbh. He's already in a project where he has autonomy/greater control to manage his OC's. Expending money to insert them into another project does not make any sense. And regardless of what the consensus is on the CoC2 thread, lots of people still like Kiyoko, Kinu, and the rest of the Kitsune Den. So it's probably just an overzealous fan.
Literally just go to Elona's discord server and read any messages from TOBS, you'll instantly recognize his writing habits and overall insanity of that man.

>does not make any sense.
TOBS' antics never made any sense to begin with! He's been there torpedoing FOE by writing anti-player spite content before COC2 was even a thing, as we recently learned courtesy to an anon in CoC2 thread.




The two fox races and their god's background have that same vibe as his overly verbose writing does

Scroll down to backers comments and expand.
Also, the excuse of Kinu just being generic enough white kitsune design doesn't work anymore, because there's also Tetsuya's portrait included in backer comments.
 
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Now on a side not I haven't really gone through any of the doc's but did any of his characters interact with other characters or quest in a heavy way? As that is the only sort of coding issue I can think that can crop up when implementing them.
I've gone through both Bianca's and Roo's docs, neither had any interaction with other OCs or quests. They were mostly self-contained.
 

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Honestly I am just baffled, I know project management might as well be a distant dream there but what advantage was there to shelving william's plans? From my understanding there is already several google docs out there on several characters and he wanted to write more, hell they could have milked implementing just one character for half a year under the guise of "making sure its "polished" or code doesn't crash the game", and I don't think anyone would've been opposed to these characters either here or on their forums.

The only two reasons I can even think makes general sense was will asking for more money or equivalent more than what fenoxo was willing to pay or the more likely is that Fen considers himself an """"artist""" and didn't want to be out shown in either quality or quantity.

Now on a side not I haven't really gone through any of the doc's but did any of his characters interact with other characters or quest in a heavy way? As that is the only sort of coding issue I can think that can crop up when implementing them.
The Jumper Leader, "Crew Jumper", and Sephora interacted mechanically, but that's a pretty closed loop of 3 characters, if they couldn't handle that they have bigger issues.
 

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Honestly I am just baffled, I know project management might as well be a distant dream there but what advantage was there to shelving william's plans? From my understanding there is already several google docs out there on several characters and he wanted to write more, hell they could have milked implementing just one character for half a year under the guise of "making sure its "polished" or code doesn't crash the game", and I don't think anyone would've been opposed to these characters either here or on their forums.

The only two reasons I can even think makes general sense was will asking for more money or equivalent more than what fenoxo was willing to pay or the more likely is that Fen considers himself an """"artist""" and didn't want to be out shown in either quality or quantity.

Now on a side not I haven't really gone through any of the doc's but did any of his characters interact with other characters or quest in a heavy way? As that is the only sort of coding issue I can think that can crop up when implementing them.
I could be wrong but the pirate expansions got shelved because one of the writers/reviews got hung up on the fact that the player couldn't just outright kill the leader of Zen. They also couldn't understand why the cops weren't shutting the place down. I think Will's explanation was that she had spies/bribes/takes out the government agents.
 

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TOBS' antics never made any sense to begin with! He's been there torpedoing FOE by writing anti-player spite content before COC2 was even a thing, as we recently learned courtesy to an anon in CoC2 thread.
"Cassidy's great-grandmother on her father's side was , the Salamander from Corruption of Champions. She has little good to say about her, and even less to say about her paternal great-grandfather; Cassidy's grandmother ended up in Eden when she realised her own father was so corrupt that he was grooming her to become his sexual plaything, and Helia was such a (probably corrupted) slut that she either didn't realise or didn't care. This shocked " " straight and scared her away from her family home, and as a result she has striven to keep her children from falling to similar depths.

Cassidy's creator has stated publicly that this backstory and the character in general, which were written with Savin's approval, were created as a finger in the eye of the infamous vocal minority whose incessant demands for incest content for Helspawn caused the character to be dropped."

I'm glad I've never touched CoC2
 
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Do you know how to access XO Kui-tan Boss? I don't know how to access his dungeon
It's a mini-dungeon as a request from an NPC on Dhaal, Malai (the femboy selling weapons in the southeast). Get the quest from him, go to the top right most corner of that hostile area (Gobtown) and you should get a trigger for it. It's not repeatable, so save a copy if you ever want to do it again.
 
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Nixi~

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Literally just go to Elona's discord server and read any messages from TOBS, you'll instantly recognize his writing habits and overall insanity of that man.

>does not make any sense.
TOBS' antics never made any sense to begin with! He's been there torpedoing FOE by writing anti-player spite content before COC2 was even a thing, as we recently learned courtesy to an anon in CoC2 thread.
I need to ask, but what is this... individual.. involvement with TiTs?
 

Nixi~

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None actually. He's just a horrible writer for TiTS sister game: Corruption of Champions 2. TiTS and CoC2 often share writers so people were dooming him actually writing for TiTS, a pretty horrible prospect.
I'm not the biggest fan of TiTs, but thank god I haven't had to read any of his writing. Just once from that wiki article was once too many.
 

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He can write decent dungeons and he adds actual role playing stuff in the erotic RPG, even if it's little stuff like using items to ambush enemies or your companions doing special stuff in the mission depending on their role (Warrior companion taking the brunt of an ambush with their shield, a thief/trickster companion opening locks for you in a mission etc.). But he has a signature move of writing in giant blocks and is in dire need for an editor. There's also greater drama than that, but I refuse to elaborate. If you really want to know more YouShallNotLol has the day job of complaining about CoC2, just look into their profile and you'll stumble upon it.
 

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anyone know why I'm seemingly missing some bust images for characters while the smutosaurus wiki for the game has the bust images? I checked the game files and I seem to be missing some (only a few so far) bust images.
 
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