Others Trials in Tainted Space [v0.9.133] [Fenoxo]

[321mydude]

I get it. Just sucks is all, had to vent. Spent quite some time supporting both games on patreon a few years back but dropped off once I realized what was going on. Now I'm here pirating this shit cause of corrupt greed and half assed effort. Suck it Fen & Savin.

You and me both. Hard to believe at one point I thought either project deserved supporting.

 

[BackFlipz]

I feel you. Supported them for a whole year. Stopped once I realised that this shit was like one of those old time mob construction jobs that go nowhere and only exist to keep everyone on payroll lol

I was a sub for 5 years. It was my FIRST patreon sub too. I was already not enjoying most of the content made over the last year and william leaving was the final straw. He was the only writing consistently doing cum through content besides B. I just wish CoC2 had more of it. Phaedra is not it for me kink wise. Syne was great though, wish she had more.

 

[TerreCrimson]

Why the hell would they even think about hiring someone, even part-time, when they can just keep a comfy work pace and rake in all the cash for themselves? Wake up! They’ve been doing this for years, not just now—they figured out long ago they can get away with it! And so they did! Why increase their expenses at all when they can just sit on their asses, tossing a bone to players every now and then?

Not that intent makes a difference on our end, but I don't think they don't put out content to milk the patreon, I think they're just incompetent.

 

[Aliana2974]

Hey guys! Remember Azra? No? Me neither...

She was forgotten

 

[Mr Technician]

Game Version: 0.9.131-BACKER-ELECTRON#6139 (hopefully a patch to version #6137, but who knows...)

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[HerbertIronsides]

Been waiting for bianca content for over 4 years

 

[Aliana2974]

Been waiting for bianca content for over 4 years

If she could replace Tika...

 

[Kitsune1991]

Game Version: 0.9.131-BACKER-ELECTRON#6139 (hopefully a patch to version #6137, but who knows...)
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[Yeppers34]

Been waiting for bianca content for over 4 years

Got bad news for you brother but uh...she won't be getting any more updates any time soon.

 

[Chaos La Croix]

Honestly some god of computers and coding NEEDS to rip apart tits code and make it moddable. Cuz at this point fen is a failure of a dev let alone a dev lead. The project needs to be taken from him. And someone else who's not either woefully incompetent or wrapped up with real life shit (to be fair to fen im not sure which it is with him) needs to take over.

 

[MarvintheBee]

Honestly some god of computers and coding NEEDS to rip apart tits code and make it moddable. Cuz at this point fen is a failure of a dev let alone a dev lead. The project needs to be taken from him. And someone else who's not either woefully incompetent or wrapped up with real life shit (to be fair to fen im not sure which it is with him) needs to take over.

I completely agree that Fen's ability to lead is ass. But what exactly would that accomplish?
How would modding the game fix his ass leadership abilities?
How would modding fix the fact that there are only so few writers anymore?
Because that is the hard part. The writing. Coordinating his team is also important. But withouth writers you have no content.

Like this patch had 2 scenes added. Why? Because nothing is in the pipeline. All writers are busy doing their next big project or helping finishing the big phaedra dungeon, which will hopefull release this year.

What you would really need first are a bunch of fresh people willing to write smut. Like when Coc and Tits started.
But good luck finding those. All the old folks either left or burned out.

 

[NewSeal]

Why the hell would they even think about hiring someone, even part-time, when they can just keep a comfy work pace and rake in all the cash for themselves? Wake up! They’ve been doing this for years, not just now—they figured out long ago they can get away with it! And so they did! Why increase their expenses at all when they can just sit on their asses, tossing a bone to players every now and then?

I know you're criticizing this dev specifically but that goes for over half the devs on this website lmao

 

[Stassonil]

I know you're criticizing this dev specifically but that goes for over half the devs on this website lmao

Yeah, fair point. But these guys are still in a league of their own. Developing a TEXT freakin’ game for over a decade—that’s something else! The only graphics are character portraits and the occasional CG. So they don’t need to spend much on that department, and everything else is just text and code. And even though it’s been about three years since they switched to Java, they’re constantly dealing with a ton of bugs with every update. It’s literally a patch log with couple of lines about new content followed by a long list of fixes every time.

 

[RuberFF]

I'm not re-playing this game until it comes out on steam! Goddamn it Fenoxo, let me give you my money already!!!

 

[anomajou]

Developing a TEXT freakin’ game for over a decade—that’s something else! The only graphics are character portraits and the occasional CG. So they don’t need to spend much on that department, and everything else is just text and code.

don't diss at text games, you have no idea how gamedev works. writing is not reading. something that takes a minute to read might take hours and hours to write, especially into an existing story with dozens of variations depending on your stats, which can interact in complex and hard to predict ways that may turn into bugs. and there's like 90mb of plain text and packed code in the game. that's like 20 bibles worth of text!

And even though it’s been about three years since they switched to Java, they’re constantly dealing with a ton of bugs with every update. It’s literally a patch log with couple of lines about new content followed by a long list of fixes every time.

bugfixes get disproportionate treatment in the log because they don't run a risk of becoming a spoiler-heavy detailed walkthrough. it's a bad metric to measure proportion of bugs to new content. and every sufficiently complex system will have bugs. flash was a leaky bucket that adobe gave up trying to fix. a changelog of an unofficial patch to any bethesda game is the size of a book, each. other engines fare not much better, be it unreal, unity, source, godot, twine, etc. - as a rule, fixes outnumber new content descriptions unless either the descriptions are condensed into something like "various bug fixes" or the devs don't care about fixing their buggy shit.

 

[Chaos La Croix]

I completely agree that Fen's ability to lead is ass. But what exactly would that accomplish?
How would modding the game fix his ass leadership abilities?
How would modding fix the fact that there are only so few writers anymore?
Because that is the hard part. The writing. Coordinating his team is also important. But withouth writers you have no content.

Like this patch had 2 scenes added. Why? Because nothing is in the pipeline. All writers are busy doing their next big project or helping finishing the big phaedra dungeon, which will hopefull release this year.

What you would really need first are a bunch of fresh people willing to write smut. Like when Coc and Tits started.
But good luck finding those. All the old folks either left or burned out.

All legitimately good points actually. I know it probably sounds condescending but bravo, really. Ignoring the praise though to actually respond, if someone were to somehow crack open tits code for all the world to see while it would give great personal satisfaction to me and other folks sick of fens shit and it would open the way to other teams of people al a OtherCoCAnon among others (though I think he's gone dark?) to add their own content to it. It wouldnt by any means be a permanent work around but at the least maybe it would be enough to light a fire under fens ass to bloody finish the main story, or find someone who could write well enough to. I mean I fully doubt it would im not a hopeless optimistic but at this point I feel like hope and the like is all we have.

 

[stuffinabox]

I was a sub for 5 years. It was my FIRST patreon sub too. I was already not enjoying most of the content made over the last year and william leaving was the final straw. He was the only writing consistently doing cum through content besides B. I just wish CoC2 had more of it. Phaedra is not it for me kink wise. Syne was great though, wish she had more.

Look to Mhen'ga, then back to Phaedra II, then to Fenoxo, then to Savin, then to yourself, then back to me. Repeat this process about six different times and compare this to myrellion. Then slap yourselves and take a cold shower. If it wasn't immediately obvious by the time they started shoehorning in dickgirls at every angle where this was going, then you should've backed out as soon as you heard what Savin had already been doing/saying to developers a LONG time ago.

Development stopped at Myrellion. Any sense of plot development or personal responsibility was dropped in favor of letting Savin have his run of the show because it was getting to be too much of a headache for Fenoxo. I would've fired Savin's ass awhile ago and kept the rest, except maybe (I forgot), the other writer who's full of himself- But again. Project management is such a pain in the ass when you get a bunch of horny dudes in their 30's (yes they're that old), who all want to shoehorn in their specific fetishes into one game instead of FINISHING THE FUCKING STORY and adding onto it. I get this is what people pay for but seriously. The fuck is wrong with people man.

 

[Stassonil]

don't diss at text games, you have no idea how gamedev works. writing is not reading. something that takes a minute to read might take hours and hours to write, especially into an existing story with dozens of variations depending on your stats, which can interact in complex and hard to predict ways that may turn into bugs. and there's like 90mb of plain text and packed code in the game. that's like 20 bibles worth of text!

Well, yeah, that’s true and fair. Just like it’s true that I’ve never created anything like that in my life. And just like I’ve seen plenty of examples where people with similar resources made something far greater and better in way less time. So, I’m sticking to my opinion—a decade-plus on a still-unfinished text-based game is absurd… and a perfect example of how to milk a patreon dry.

 

[procrastinator101]

don't diss at text games, you have no idea how gamedev works. writing is not reading. something that takes a minute to read might take hours and hours to write, especially into an existing story with dozens of variations depending on your stats, which can interact in complex and hard to predict ways that may turn into bugs. and there's like 90mb of plain text and packed code in the game. that's like 20 bibles worth of text!


bugfixes get disproportionate treatment in the log because they don't run a risk of becoming a spoiler-heavy detailed walkthrough. it's a bad metric to measure proportion of bugs to new content. and every sufficiently complex system will have bugs. flash was a leaky bucket that adobe gave up trying to fix. a changelog of an unofficial patch to any bethesda game is the size of a book, each. other engines fare not much better, be it unreal, unity, source, godot, twine, etc. - as a rule, fixes outnumber new content descriptions unless either the descriptions are condensed into something like "various bug fixes" or the devs don't care about fixing their buggy shit.

I know enough about game dev to know this is shit. And you don't even need to be an expert game dev to see it, either.

I'm no rocket scientist, but if I see a rocket blow up during takeoff and kill the crew, I'll be safe in assuming that someone did a lousy job.

 

[HerbertIronsides]

Got bad news for you brother but uh...she won't be getting any more updates any time soon.

Yeah I am pretty sure it's never. I need to give up