Others Trials in Tainted Space [v0.9.135] [Fenoxo]

[Keizer19]

JS is slowly catching up to the Flash Version. I'll resume playing when it has, meanwhile I'll just replay the Flash version again. That and maybe re-visit COC I.

 

[latexdreams]

Could anyone explain what happened to this game? Did progress on it just slow down or stall? Its been going for years but I haven't seen much real progress towards an ending in a long time.. And i see some comments about different versions.. java vs flash.. did they start over and stop progress for a year or something?

 

[Enthusiass]

Game development stalled for the time being while all attention is given to java*script* port and fixing it as it gets populated, as we all know now flash has been kaput, is not supported or developed anymore while game inevitably will grow larger. Imo even if it is killing the development speed its a good thing to move on while optimizing everything. Meanwhile story writers can still work on writing and all that is left to do is code the variables in(at least with the surface level understanding I've got of creating stories and variables in flash).

 

[TheInternetIsForThis]

Game development stalled for the time being while all attention is given to java port, as we all know now flash has been kaput, is not supported or developed anymore, and game inevitably grows larger, Imo even if it is killing the development speed its a good thing to move on while optimizing everything. Meanwhile story writers can still work on writing and all that is left to do is code the variables in it after the fact.

Not only that, but despite all the many, many complaints about bugs and crashes in the javascript port, the game's codebase is cleaner than ever. The bugs and crashes result for the most part from the fact that javascript's lack of circular inheritance forced them to clean up and restructure their codebase. So now things that were scattered all over, grandfathered in, or added slapdash are getting properly rebuilt and incorporated. It makes for a bumpy road in the short term in order to allow for smoother sailing long term.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Neither of those work, what I'm trying to do is be able to see these stats
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I could see those before at all times on the flash version, being able to track my stats progression when I was training in Ten Tons Gym to max them all, now with he new retarded framing it only shows Shields, Health, Lust and Energy, is stupid i have to go V, F every simple time to check instead of just having it there like always.

God, that stat screen is way too busy. How did they screw that up so badly?

Game development stalled for the time being while all attention is given to java port, as we all know now flash has been kaput, is not supported or developed anymore, and game inevitably grows larger, Imo even if it is killing the development speed its a good thing to move on while optimizing everything. Meanwhile story writers can still work on writing and all that is left to do is code the variables in it after the fact.

Wasn't the reason they gave COC I such a shitty, rushed ending because Fen hated writing for Java? And now, he's being forced to go back to Java? If Java gets kaput, does Fen say "fuck it" and crash his own patreon in frustration?

 

[Naru100]

Is the java version caught up with flash?

 

[Enthusiass]

God, that stat screen is way too busy. How did they screw that up so badly?



Wasn't the reason they gave COC I such a shitty, rushed ending because Fen hated writing for Java? And now, he's being forced to go back to Java? If Java gets kaput, does Fen say "fuck it" and crash his own patreon in frustration?

My memory does not go that far back nor did I actually follow every update so I don't think I've ever heard him hating AS3 or its successor(not far away from apple tree) java language but I was under the impression that he ran out of steam/muse for fantasty setting and wanted more of a sci-fi, as long as whoever doing the main coding is happy of the change and is proficent I couldn't care less, if the coding is streamlined and doesn't have loops you have to jump through as written here;

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[BlacJak]

Wasn't the reason they gave COC I such a shitty, rushed ending because Fen hated writing for Java? And now, he's being forced to go back to Java? If Java gets kaput, does Fen say "fuck it" and crash his own patreon in frustration?

No, the reason the ending to COC1 was rushed was because Fen didn't want to work on it anymore since TITS was showing more financial promise, but he had already promised that he wasn't going to abandon the project. When people noticed that he wasn't putting out updates like he said he was going to, he begrudgingly continued to work on it and "finish" it so people would leave him alone about it so he could focus on the 250,000$ TITS was raking in on Offbeatr

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

My memory does not go that far back nor did I actually follow every update so I don't think I've ever heard him hating AS3 or its successor java language but I was under the impression that he ran out of steam/muse for fantasty setting and wanted more of a sci-fi, as long as whoever doing the main coding is happy of the change and is proficent I couldn't care less, if the coding is streamlined and doesn't have loops you have to jump through as written here;

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I didn't keep up too much back when TiTS first started and have barely kept up since, but I do recall a rumor of sorts stating that CoC I progress pretty much stalled because Fen hated working with AS3 and highly preferred Flash.

Imagine typing up a long-winded post that could be summarized with "programming cyclic dependencies is a lot more complicated in Java than Flash and I've had to start from scratch as a result." I mean, yeah, you have all the files and code, so conversion should be a bit easier, but still. Pretty sure 99% of their audience is going to cross their eyes before figuring out what the eff Fen is getting to.

No, the reason the ending to COC1 was rushed was because Fen didn't want to work on it anymore since TITS was showing more financial promise, but he had already promised that he wasn't going to abandon the project. When people noticed that he wasn't putting out updates like he said he was going to, he begrudgingly continued to work on it and "finish" it so people would leave him alone about it so he could focus on the 250,000$ TITS was raking in on Offbeatr

Oh, so the reason was disinterest combined with a bit disdain for his audience wanting him to finish a project he promised to finish? Huh. Sounds like another group associated with him...

 

[CyclonicTorpedo]

As much as I love TiTs, I can't help but feel aggravated that some of the characters I actually care about are abandoned, or have almost no content, yet all the generic half-dog "look at me, I will fuck anything that has a penis and moves!" porn-lady-character-#67869 have a billion pages of content, quests, etc.

Like, Synphia, one of my favourite characters, has such a cool personality, such a cool backstory, such a cool design, and yet she effectively is just a vendor for ship things, a uniform, and a, very well written, but still singular sex scene. Where is the option to meet her sister? Where is the option to properly get to know her? Where is the option to invite her to your crew as your ship's designated engineer?

Or, Azra, an actually respectable woman who also has an interesting personality. You have to actually get to know her before she drops her trousers for you, and even then she is still treating it realistically. She is ACTUALLY interesting, has an ACTUAL personality, but hasn't had ANY updates bar a single extra porn scene, since I last played the game 6 years ago.

Jesus christ, it is aggravating. Like, I love the game, and the effort put into it, but for the love of god I hate how any actually remotely interesting character is abandoned in favour of what amounts to generic-slut author fantasies/self-inserts. Synphia is honestly the one I am most upset about, she has such potential, such an interesting design, story, etc, and just "uh, yeah, you can buy ship parts, and she will suck your dick."

 

[KayleeFox]

As much as I love TiTs, I can't help but feel aggravated that some of the characters I actually care about are abandoned, or have almost no content, yet all the generic half-dog "look at me, I will fuck anything that has a penis and moves!" porn-lady-character-#67869 have a billion pages of content, quests, etc.

Like, Synphia, one of my favourite characters, has such a cool personality, such a cool backstory, such a cool design, and yet she effectively is just a vendor for ship things, a uniform, and a, very well written, but still singular sex scene. Where is the option to meet her sister? Where is the option to properly get to know her? Where is the option to invite her to your crew as your ship's designated engineer?

Or, Azra, an actually respectable woman who also has an interesting personality. You have to actually get to know her before she drops her trousers for you, and even then she is still treating it realistically. She is ACTUALLY interesting, has an ACTUAL personality, but hasn't had ANY updates bar a single extra porn scene, since I last played the game 6 years ago.

Jesus christ, it is aggravating. Like, I love the game, and the effort put into it, but for the love of god I hate how any actually remotely interesting character is abandoned in favour of what amounts to generic-slut author fantasies/self-inserts. Synphia is honestly the one I am most upset about, she has such potential, such an interesting design, story, etc, and just "uh, yeah, you can buy ship parts, and she will suck your dick."

So like most of the characters, you posted about are specific writer's characters and while I do believe writers get paid for their time on TiTs they most likely have other personal projects or other jobs they have to do. then you have the active writers on the payroll who are writing more content for their characters or the characters they like. If you really like a character that bad contact the writer, get involved with the community, or put some money towards it yourself. otherwise, you're just a person raging at your keyboard.

 

[CyclonicTorpedo]

Yes, I AM just a person raging at my keyboard, but I am allowed to do that. You are exactly right, and that is what I am complaining about, it seems that the characters that get the most attention, that seem the most "liked by the writers", are the same generic effectively-humans-with-token-animal-parts with the same generic personalities.

Just because there is a reason for it being the way it is, doesn't inherently justify it being the way it is, CoC2, for example, tends to suffer from this far less, with far fewer, but better developed, characters. Nor does it mean it isn't an issue, or isn't something people cannot complain about. Again. TiTS is incredible, however that does not discount the issues that it has, of which this is one that particularly aggravates me.

 

[CyclonicTorpedo]

So like most of the characters, you posted about are specific writer's characters and while I do believe writers get paid for their time on TiTs they most likely have other personal projects or other jobs they have to do. then you have the active writers on the payroll who are writing more content for their characters or the characters they like. If you really like a character that bad contact the writer, get involved with the community, or put some money towards it yourself. otherwise, you're just a person raging at your keyboard.

Also, key to note, Synphia is written by Fenoxo, so she is hardly a character limited by a writer leaving, but rather simply by interest. Which, again, is entirely fair, however that doesn't mean it cannot really aggravate me that interesting characters like her tend to get the short end of the stick.

 

[ExcitedTengu]

Could anyone explain what happened to this game? Did progress on it just slow down or stall? Its been going for years but I haven't seen much real progress towards an ending in a long time.. And i see some comments about different versions.. java vs flash.. did they start over and stop progress for a year or something?

Dude burnt out his dopamine receptors and handed the project off to the coc2 team. They also switched to a different system so they are pretty much just taking a break while porting things over.

 

[TheInternetIsForThis]

A reminder:

Java is a programming language currently owned and maintained by Oracle, that is excessively similar in formatting and libraries to C#. Java is what Minecraft was programmed in, and similarly to Flash requires software provided by Oracle to run. (New versions of Minecraft bundle that, but that's neither here nor there.) At no point has Trials in Tainted Space ever been written in Java.

JavaScript is a fundamentally different programming language designed to run in a web browser, and is nearly interchangeable with ActionScript due to their shared origins in the same ECMAScript design. Trials in Tainted Space is currently being programmed in JavaScript.

If this were in Java I'd have been decompiling it with FernFlower and digging through the internals to look into making a modloader by now. Unfortunately, that's far less viable with JS. And honestly, js is a much faster shorthand than java if you don't want to bother typing out the whole name.

 

[DeMoS666]

So there no save editor, because it now on java?

Is older version which is still flash(on this site downloads) is last flash one version?
I just do not want to burn so much time on game which i played many times already...

 

[CyclonicTorpedo]

So there no save editor, because it now on java?

Is older version which is still flash(on this site downloads) is last flash one version?
I just do not want to burn so much time on game which i played many times already...

You don't really need a save editor now, the saves are remarkably easy to edit. Just use Notebook++, and all it takes is a few reference saves, and a bit of trial and error, to understand the format and what to do with it. Also, the flags for various things have been decompiled and provided on the Fenoxo forums if you need them.

The reason a save editor was needed before was because of just how bloody weirdly the old .tits files were formatted.

 

[SGrimmer]

Kind of a weird choice to gate the reimplementation of certain content behind a wall for backers only.

Also since it's now being ported to flash (albeit in a slow as balls way) does that kick open the door to modders? I know they wanted to prevent mods being possible for some asinine reason but is that still being actively prevented?

 

[CyclonicTorpedo]

Kind of a weird choice to gate the reimplementation of certain content behind a wall for backers only.

Also since it's now being ported to flash (albeit in a slow as balls way) does that kick open the door to modders? I know they wanted to prevent mods being possible for some asinine reason but is that still being actively prevented?

Tbf, they are probably just doing the standard "The backer version is one update ahead of the public version" deal, so it is less gated, and more just delayed.

As for mods, idk about the different practicalities between JS and Flash, but I know damned well mods will come out of the woodwork as soon as a stable-ish game is done.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Here's a download of the latest version 0.69.420-BACKERS#1815

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You can't play the backers online on the devs official website. (if you didn't pay )

Changelog:
look at [TiTS] Hotfies Galore~ page in fen's site.
(yeah I copied cten's format, sue me)
(p.s. don't expect backers build when they come out, mostly when something major comes out I'll think about it)
So syri on flash when giving her the steele suit bugs out the game, been a thing for a while. The reason why I mention this is because when a bug occurs you don't go to the reload screen since well, it isn't online. Usually your menu will glitch out instead so if that happens, reload.

All hail people like you for helping us cracked player peasants.


Man, glad to see that my cheese combo still works.